***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[bdj23]

Could France just hurry tf up and lockdown/restrict travel so I can get my $ back?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Donger

CDC recommends that for the next 8 weeks, organizers cancel or postpone in-person events that consist of 50 people or more throughout the U.S.

[MOhillbilly]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Not everyone will get the same symptoms though.

She had pneumonia like symptoms and it took over 2 weeks for her to start feeling better.

Did you go to the parade?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Frazod

Well, I guess the wife and I will go out for dinner tonight, seeing as how it will be our last opportunity to do so for the foreseeable future.

**** this shit.

Chicago is an authoritarian, socialist shithole. I'm sorry.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

This is going to happen to Missouri next. If you're not prepared, you were warned.

That's already happened in Denver. No veggies, potatoes or meat at my local grocery store. No pasta and no milk or eggs.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

This is just massive! #FederalReserve cuts rate to 0.0%-0.25%, launches massive #QE program of USD 700 billion and announces swap lines with #BoJ, #BoE, #ECB, #SNB, #BoC. This is a #GFC response. pic.twitter.com/pkWj6VOwQZ

— jeroen blokland (@jsblokland) March 15, 2020

[eDave]

Just booked my airfare to NYC in July. $200 round trip!

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

I was just trying to find the point in a couple of your posts where you didn't seem to care much if it kills 5% (6.5 million people in the US) and that the cold is also a virus so it's just like the cold.

The common cold hasn't shut down Italy and Spain and China.

The point of slowing it down right now is to get through flu season with the hopes of developing a vaccine, so there's really no point in saying "everyone will get it eventually".

No one knows exactly the right level of precautions, but we do know where a lackadaisical approach has gotten other countries.

No one in this thread is 'sitting here and whining' about 'shutting down all of society'.

What does it matter how much I care about the fatality rate? It is what it is. How much I care isn't going to change that part of it.

Moving on . . .

You and Donger and the other guy are overreacting to my use of the example of the common cold. I never said it's as lethal or whatever as the common cold. But it's certainly a lot less lethal than ebola. Where's your outrage for his use of Ebola?

What I was trying to communicate was that this thing will ultimately spread much like rhinovirus. That everyone at some point will come into contact with it. And that ultimately younger people will get it, and get over it, much like younger people get over the cold or the flu. That was extent of my comparison.

You people are the ones trying to reinterpret what I meant.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

This is going to happen to Missouri next. If you're not prepared, you were warned.

Unch meat? Somebody take the L? Cuz they should.

Noone likes Jack's

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by eDave

Just booked my airfare to NYC in July. $200 round trip!

Have fun!

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Donger

Yes, I teased myself a little, but got the job done.

Well good. I was concerned that my use of the common cold had interrupted your 'me time.' Glad to know that wasn't the case.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by eDave

Just booked my airfare to NYC in July. $200 round trip!

The other day (before Illinois completely shut down) I found Phoenix to Chicago for $90 round trip a couple weeks from now.... they might be giving them away now though.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Frazod

Have fun!

Seriously though, this is a good time to buy tickets for any upcoming trips.

[Spott]

Originally Posted by eDave

Seriously though, this is a good time to buy tickets for any upcoming trips.

I booked Cleveland to Orlando for 45 round trip in April. Hopefully they don’t suspend domestic travel.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

What does it matter how much I care about the fatality rate? It is what it is. How much I care isn't going to change that part of it.

Moving on . . .

You and Donger and the other guy are overreacting to my use of the example of the common cold. I never said it's as lethal or whatever as the common cold. But it's certainly a lot less lethal than ebola. Where's your outrage for his use of Ebola?

What I was trying to communicate was that this thing will ultimately spread much like rhinovirus. That everyone at some point will come into contact with it. And that ultimately younger people will get it, and get over it, much like younger people get over the cold or the flu. That was extent of my comparison.

You people are the ones trying to reinterpret what I meant.

Do you know what the R0 figures are for both the common rhinovirus and SARS-CoV-2 are?