***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[O.city]

A true N95 that would be FDA approved shouldn't have a vent. They suck to breath in, but that's why they are what they are.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

A true N95 that would be FDA approved shouldn't have a vent. They suck to breath in, but that's why they are what they are.

Even the knock off KN95 I've been wearing when I leave my office is a bitch to breathe in. I've been wearing the surgical mask over it too. I typically don't have it on very long so it's not a huge issue.

I still can't get my KN95 to seal very well around my nose either for whatever reason.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Bars are a likely contributor for sure. But these are largely small businesses...how long can we keep them shut down?

As far as the smaller gatherings you're referencing, people were cooped up and isolated all spring, at some point we are going to socialize again. It's human nature. And no one is going to wear a mask in their own home.

Again, we're at the limit of what the general public will reasonably accept. It's an inconvenient truth.

While I don't disagree with what you are saying, the initial comment was "either masks aren't working, or there is something else is going on" and these are just justifications for people not wearing them.

Its like going on a diet and gaining weight, then saying the "diet doesn't work" until someone points out that you ate 3 pieces of cake every night. Yeah its not easy, but that doesn't mean it doesn't work if done right.

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by sedated

While I don't disagree with what you are saying, the initial comment was "either masks aren't working, or there is something else is going on" and these are just justifications for people not wearing them.

Its like going on a diet and gaining weight, then saying the "diet doesn't work" until someone points out that you ate 3 pieces of cake every night. Yeah its not easy, but that doesn't mean it doesn't work if done right.

I feel attackes

[O.city]

Originally Posted by TLO

Even the knock off KN95 I've been wearing when I leave my office is a bitch to breathe in. I've been wearing the surgical mask over it too. I typically don't have it on very long so it's not a huge issue.

I still can't get my KN95 to seal very well around my nose either for whatever reason.

Do you have facial hair? They won't seal if you do.

I wear one basically all day. It sucks ass.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by O.city

Do you have facial hair? They won't seal if you do.

I wear one basically all day. It sucks ass.

Um, everyone on CP has facial hair.

[KS Smitty]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Um, everyone on CP has facial hair.

No I do not.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

Do you have facial hair? They won't seal if you do.

I wear one basically all day. It sucks ass.

I do indeed. Only place I can feel air coming out of the mask is at like the bridge of my nose.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by KS Smitty

No I do not.

Thank goodness.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by KS Smitty

No I do not.

Same

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by TLO

I do indeed. Only place I can feel air coming out of the mask is at like the bridge of my nose.

Face size and shape affect fitting , at work have 7 different modelsof n95 in out dept of 12 people, we getting fitted yearly .

[Fish]

Kansas City mayor extends State of Emergency, including mask order until January 16

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Kansas City Mayor Quinton Lucas along with Kansas City Health Department Director Rex Archer announced Thursday that the State of Emergency in the city, including the mandatory mask order due to COVID-19 has been extended to January 16, 2021.

“Until there’s a widely available vaccine, COVID-19 is here to stay—with serious potential health consequences for those infected,” Lucas said. “Mask-wearing, social distancing and basic hygiene continue to be the most effective way to mitigate the spread of COVID-19, and we appreciate all who take their personal responsibility to protect their family, friends and neighbors seriously. I will continue to work with Dr. Archer and our City health leaders to take any decisive action necessary—especially as we head into the fall and winter months—to best protect our community.”

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by sedated

While I don't disagree with what you are saying, the initial comment was "either masks aren't working, or there is something else is going on" and these are just justifications for people not wearing them.

Its like going on a diet and gaining weight, then saying the "diet doesn't work" until someone points out that you ate 3 pieces of cake every night. Yeah its not easy, but that doesn't mean it doesn't work if done right.

They're not working as we're being instructed to use them. Sorry.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

They're not working as we're being instructed to use them. Sorry.

You probably shouldn't wear one then.

[TLO]

The models are all over the place this week.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...asting-us.html