***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[mlyonsd]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Prepare for a stream of CPDC regulars to berate you with the old fake news, joke science, agenda driven replies.

Political message, should have been booted.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

Political message, should have been booted.

Using your logic, You have the word 'Political' in your post so you should be booted.

Just admit you faceplanted on your accusation and move on.

This might help....Pro tip: go read the post you quoted in the Sturgis thread.

[eDave]

Watch mylonsd get banned for spamming.

[stumppy]

The best part of this is I've chapped your ass so bad you're looking through a 42,000 post thread trying to prove something that isn't even what I posted.

[mlyonsd]

Originally Posted by eDave

Watch mylonsd get banned for spamming.

That's what I'm hoping for. I've never been banned for anything but would take a stand on an idiot like dumpy.

[stumppy]

"It's even gotten to be more of a cesspool this last year or two. Seems to be several new posters there that contribute nothing positive to CP. They tend to be the kind that believe and perpetuate any wacked out conspiracy theory put forth by "their side'. The more despicable the better"



So how have you proven I've posted a conspiracy theory?

[eDave]

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

That's what I'm hoping for. I've never been banned for anything but would take a stand on an idiot like dumpy.

Nice. And yea Stump, you do push it too far. My rule of thumb; if I think what I am going to say is political I don't say it. Easy peasy, nice and easy. Not perfect but I afforded myself a lapse once ever 1000 posts and don't have a track record of doing it here.

Enough about me. Good night.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by eDave

Nice. And yea Stump, you do push it too far. My rule of thumb; if I think what I am going to say is political I don't say it. Easy peasy, nice and easy. Not perfect but I afforded myself a lapse once ever 1000 posts and don't have a track record of doing it here.

Enough about me. Good night.

Those posts he quoted were from a couple months ago.


Thing is, he accused me of posting conspiracy theories in this thread. H e said nothing about political posts .
( even though i don't come anywhere near as some do)

[mlyonsd]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Lol we got a tattletale!

Speaking of that. Didn't you lose a gone forever bet that you never honored?

[mlyonsd]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Those posts he quoted were from a couple months ago.


Thing is, he accused me of posting conspiracy theories in this thread. H e said nothing about political posts .
( even though i don't come anywhere near as some do)

Doesn't understand the rules of the lounge.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

Doesn't understand the rules of the lounge.

Waisted a couple hours on a complete faceplant.

Keep digging dipshit.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Pants

I don't think any human being generates that much vapor.

That's beside the point, though.

I would love to see him just blow that vape with as much force without a mask just to see the difference in the distance and the spread pattern of the vapor.

Iirc vapor is way lighter than aerosols and will travel different but isn’t thought to be a vector for the virus

It’s more about catching water drops or aerosols so this doesn’t really say anything about mask efficacy imo

[mlyonsd]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Waisted a couple hours on a complete faceplant.

Keep digging dipshit.

I pointed out the obvious. You're either a hypocrite or too stupid to know when you post political innuendos in this forum. I'll let you pick which but those are your only two options to choose from.

[DaFace]

Well, this thread kind of went to shit last time. But to be fair, it's only notable because Donger and Pete weren't involved this time.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

Speaking of that. Didn't you lose a gone forever bet that you never honored?

Not in the Lounge. In DC. I'm honoring now and have been for over a year.

I'd rather be a welcher than a little snitching bitch.