***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Keep shitposting pete, maybe you can run off all the good mods.

Pete ran off a mod? That mod is a pussy if he's running off from Pete.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Pete ran off a mod? That mod is a pussy if he's running off from Pete.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Pete ran off a mod? That mod is a pussy if he's running off from Pete.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Pete ran off a mod? That mod is a pussy if he's running off from Pete.

It was a group effort, somewhat coordinated, that I wouldn't attach Pete to.

[suzzer99]

Yeah KCChiefsFan88 did the lion's share of work. And then a few of the no avatar morons who've never made a non terrible post in their lives showed up.

But Pete's endless diarrhea posting does truly wear out anyone who keeps trying to get him to understand basic facts. DaFace found himself in that position a lot over the last few months.

[suzzer99]

Don’t just look at covid-19 fatality rates. Look at people who survive — but don’t entirely recover.

Not a ton of new info here except that there are some major studies in the works, which is great.

It’s too early to say what the long-term prognosis of those attacks would be; with other viruses that infect the heart, most acute, symptomatic myocarditis cases eventually resolve without long-term clinical complications. Though Leslie Cooper, a cardiologist at the Mayo Clinic, estimates that 20 to 30 percent of patients who experience acute viral myocarditis end up with some sort of long-term heart disease including recurrent chest pain or shortness of breath, which can be progressive and debilitating. When I asked whether the risk of long-term disability from covid-19 could potentially end up being greater than the risk of death, Cooper said: “Yes, absolutely.”

Those patients would, on average, be much younger than the ones who are dying; the median age in the German study was 49. These are patients with many years of life to lose, either to disability or early death. And there are disturbing findings from much younger patients; a study of 186 children who had MIS-C, the (thankfully rare) inflammatory syndrome that can occur with pediatric covid-19, showed 15 had developed aneurysms of the coronary artery.

But you can’t generalize from such small studies, especially since covid-19 is rapidly becoming the most-studied disease in human history; if we regularly put patients with other viral infections through cardiac MRIs, what might their hearts look like a few months in?

We desperately need larger, more comprehensive studies, and, thankfully, they’re in the works — one of the largest and the best will follow 10,000 British patients. But these take time to set up, and as genetic epidemiologist Louise Wain, a researcher on the British study, told me ruefully, “No one warned us a year ago that we were going to have a pandemic.” She hopes to have the 1,000th patient enrolled by September, which is amazingly fast, but still not quick enough for policymakers and individuals who have to decide whether to leave our hermitages.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Yeah KCChiefsFan88 did the lion's share of work. And then a few of the no avatar morons who've never made a non terrible post in their lives showed up.

But Pete's endless diarrhea posting does truly wear out anyone who keeps trying to get him to understand basic facts. DaFace found himself in that position a lot over the last few months.

Yes, one should aspire to reach the level of douchebaggery you have achieved......

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by eDave

It was a group effort, somewhat coordinated, that I wouldn't attach Pete to.

I don't even know WTF people are talking about vis-a-vis running off Mods? I haven't hardly even posted the last week.

On a separate note I have a penthouse in Suzzer's head rent free....wanna party?????

[eDave]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I don't even know WTF people are talking about vis-a-vis running off Mods? I haven't hardly even posted the last week.

On a separate note I have a penthouse in Suzzer's head rent free....wanna party?????

I'm mostly upset over the deteriorating relationship between you and Lewdog.

[philfree]

Just talked with a buddy and he had the whu flu. He's the only person that I know who had the virus. He didn't get any treatment just Tylenol and then he switched to Ibuprofen. Said his symptoms weren't bad enough for treatment.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Don’t just look at covid-19 fatality rates. Look at people who survive — but don’t entirely recover.

Not a ton of new info here except that there are some major studies in the works, which is great.

Yeah we need to spend more time on post viral fatigue. It’s a problem with all major viral infections

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah we need to spend more time on post viral fatigue. It’s a problem with all major viral infections

Yeah studies with 7 and 6 people being effected and "internet" accounts really don't mean jack shit to me. Let's get a real study.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah we need to spend more time on post viral fatigue. It’s a problem with all major viral infections

It hit me HARD when I had mono in college. I was wiped out for a couple months.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by eDave

I'm mostly upset over the deteriorating relationship between you and Lewdog.

Hey, **** lew. I tried to be nice to him. When everyone else was telling him he had Covid I was the only one hoping it was something else knowing I was probably wrong. Instead of appreciating the fact I was actually hoping he had something other than Covid he chose to make a spectacle of the whole deal.

I knew he most likely had it but I was trying to focus on the positive and what did I get for it? Yeah, **** him and his bullshit.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by TLO

It hit me HARD when I had mono in college. I was wiped out for a couple months.

Some people like me carry mono, or use to anyway, and never break out in symptoms.

[BigCatDaddy]

PGM coming out of the bullpen throwing heat in the thread.