Alternate Reality Game 3: Starting From Scratch - Page 287

**Rain Man** · 10:17 AM

General Concept: Take over a roster of NFL players and build/trade it through the draft, trades, and free agency.

Number of Players: Up to 32, maybe up to 40.

Basic Rules:

Go here: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...22#post5909122 I think pestilence has the latest in the thread header, but just in case, I pasted the latest in Post #12.

Draft Order - Veteran Draft

1 Chiefs=Good: Fort Wayne Dancers
2 bdeg: Philadelphia Battery Tossers
3 Mr. Arrowhead: Wichita Ballbashers (formerly Honolulu Hulas)
4 Chiefscafan: Los Angeles Purple Cobras
5 Kyle Delexus/MWagg72: Kansas City Kings
6 truebigdog: San Antonio Scorpions
7 rockio42: St. Louis Stallions
8 Ultra Peanut: Burlington Blue Barracudas
9 Fat Elvis: Cleveland Steamers
10 Pestilenceaf23: Tucson Twisters
11 cdcox: Greenville Marauders
12 Mile High Mania: Crested Butte-Holes (formerly Memphis Malt Liquor)
13 doomy3: Chattanooga Choo Choos
14 darosa88: Boise Beetdiggers
15 jwazzie: Wichita Wee Willies (formerly St. Louis Commodes)
16 Rain Man: Bradenton Super-Manatees
17 Burger: Knoxville Kiffins
18 KC King: Milwaukee Mud Ducks
19 Bowser: Atlantic City Hitmen

Divisions

East
2 bdeg: PBT
8 Ultra Peanut: BBB
9 Fat Elvis: CS
18 KC King: MMD
20 Bowser: ACH

Midwest
1 Chiefs=Good: FWD
5 Kyle Delexus: KCK
7 rockio42: SLS
15 jwazzie: WWW

South
11 cdcox: GM
12 Mile High Mania: CBH
13 doomy3: CCC
16 Rain Man: BSM
17 Burger: KK

West
3 Mr. Arrowhead: WB
4 Chiefscafan: LAPC
6 truebigdog: SAS
10 Pestilenceaf23: TTT
14 Darosa88: BBD

Edit: The clock is now 8 hours if you are not currently behind on your picks. If you are behind 1 pick, your clock will be 2 hours. If you are behind 2 or more picks, you will be skipped immedately, but will be notified. Owners are encouraged to leave a short list of preferred players with a trusted adult if they believe that they will not be immediately present for their pick.

The Remainder Round Draft Order is below, but I'm hiding it for the moment so people don't get confused with the regular draft order.

Spoiler!

First 30 rounds are here:

Spoiler!

**cdcox** · 09-08-2009, 05:04 PM

Greenville Marauders

Tentative starters in italics. My understanding is that we don't have to list our final starters until the end of the season. I list 3rd WR and FB as situational starters. I run a base 3-4.

Quarterbacks (3)



Pennington,Chad	QB	ACT	MIA	GM

Garrard,David	QB	ACT	JAC	GM <- could easily end up starting

Gradkowski,Bruce	QB	ACT	OAK	GM

Running Backs (6)



Bush,Michael	RB	ACT	OAK	GM

Rankin,Louis	RB	ACT	OAK	GM

Bradshaw,Ahmad	RB	ACT	NYG	GM

Williams,DeAngelo	RB	ACT	CAR	GM

McClain,Le'Ron	FB	ACT	BAL	GM <-situational starter

O'Neal,Oren	FB	ACT	OAK	GM

Wide Receivers (6)



Welker,Wes	WR	ACT	NE	GM

Higgins,Johnnie Lee	WR	ACT	OAK	GM <-return man

Walker,Javon	WR	ACT	OAK	GM

Austin,Miles	WR	ACT	DAL	GM

Hixon,Domenik	WR	ACT	NYG	GM

Maclin,Jeremy	WR	ACT	PHI	GM <-situational starter

Tight Ends (2)



Clark,Dallas	TE	ACT	IND	GM

Myers,Brandon	TE	ACT	OAK	GM

Offensive Linemen (9)



Hartwig,Justin	C	ACT	PIT	GM

Harris,Leroy	C	ACT	TEN	GM

Smiley,Justin	G	ACT	MIA	GM

Pitts,Chester	G	ACT	HOU	GM

Carlisle,Cooper	G	ACT	OAK	GM

Williams,Chris	OT	ACT	CHI	GM

Smith,Jason	OT	ACT	STL	GM

Barnes,Khalif	T	ACT	OAK	GM

Stinchcomb,Jonathan	T	ACT	NO	GM

Defensive Linemen (8)



Johnson,Michael	DE	ACT	CIN	GM

Richardson,Jay	DE	ACT	OAK	GM

Scott,Trevor	DE	ACT	OAK	GM

Abraham,John	DE	ACT	ATL	GM

Smith,Justin	DE	ACT	SF	GM

Knighton,Terrance	NT	ACT	JAC	GM

Sims,Pat	NT	ACT	CIN	GM

Warren,Gerard	NT	ACT	OAK	GM

Linebackers (8)



Ellis,Greg	OLB	ACT	OAK	GM

Vilma,Jonathan	ILB	ACT	NO	GM

Spikes,Takeo	ILB	ACT	SF	GM

Williams,DJ	OLB	ACT	DEN	GM

Jeanty,Rashad	LB	ACT	CIN	GM

Alston,Jon	LB	ACT	OAK	GM

Brown,Ricky	LB	ACT	OAK	GM

Williams,Sam	LB	ACT	OAK	GM

Defensive Backs (9)



Allen,Will	CB	ACT	MIA	GM

Goodman,Andre	CB	ACT	DEN	GM

Joseph,Johnathan	CB	ACT	CIN	GM <-Nickel corner

Branch,Tyvon	CB	ACT	OAK	GM <- starting at SS with Oakland this year, but I'm keeping him as a possible nickel corner

Griffin,Michael	FS	ACT	TEN	GM

Eugene,Hiram	FS	ACT	OAK	GM

Johnson,Michael	FS	ACT	NYG	GM

Sensabaugh,Gerald	SS	ACT	DAL	GM

Harris,Chris	SS	ACT	CAR	GM

Special Teams (2)



Lindell,Rian	K	ACT	BUF	GM

Huber,Kevin	P	ACT	CIN	GM

Reserves (2)



Huff,Michael	FS	ACT	OAK	GM

Ekejiuba,Isaiah	LB	ACT	OAK	GM

chiefscafan · 09-08-2009, 07:11 PM

53 Man Roster for LOs Angeles Purple Cobras:

QB: (3)

7 Matt Cassel
4 Brett Farve
5 Kerry Collins

RB: (3)

28 Chris Johnson
31 Jamal Lewis
29 Glen Coffee

WR: (6)

89 Antonio Bryant
80 Kevin Curtis
87 Nate Washington
86 Reggie Brown
19 Brandon Gibson
15 Michael Crabtree

TE: (2)

81 Dustin Keller
82 Alex Smith

OG: (4)

73 Anthony Herrera
53 Antoine Caldwell
63 Kyle Kosier
78 Mike McGlynn

OT: (4)

70 Donald Penn
67 Kareem Mckenzie
71 Phil Loadholt
74 Winston Justice

C: (1)

63 Jeff Saturday

P: (1)

6 Donnie JOnes

K: (1)

2 Rob bironas

PR/KR: (1)

16 Josh Cribbs

NT: (2)

95 Jason Ferguson
92 Aubrayo Franklin

DE: (5)

90 Trevor Pryce
96 Marcus Spears
77 Matt Shaughnesy
90 Darren Howard
94 Victor Abiamiri

OLB: (6)

92 James Harrison
55 Terrell Suggs
50 Mike Vrabel
51 Marcus Freeman
54 Akeem JOrdan
96 Omar Gaither

ILB: (4)

52 Ray Lewis
58 Rey Maualuga
56 Scott McKilliop
51 Joe Mays

CB: (5)

24 Brandon Flowers
22 Tracy Porter
23 Daunta Robinson
37 Ellis Hobbs
35 Macho Harris

FS (3):

21 Antrel Rolle
39 Quinten Demps
26 Sean JOnes

SS (2):

36 Brandon Merriweather
27 Quintin Mikell

IR :

87 WR Brandon Tate
59 LB Brandon Williams

Ok so far I'm still doing some editing

**Rain Man** · 09-08-2009, 07:30 PM

So here's my plan. First, the offense.

My team is built for a powerful run game mixed with a fast-action short passing game that creates opportunities for YAC yards.

My quarterback is Kurt Warner, for whom that type of passing game is a strength. Running routes is a hobbit army of fast-cutting, good-route-running receivers: Santana Moss, Derrick Mason, Laveranues Coles, Chansi Stuckey, and Davone Bess, with Troy Williamson available to run our occasional fade routes in the end zone. All have speed for the deep routes off play-action, too.

Chris Cooley and Leonard Weaver are both good short-yardage guys out of the backfield, and Cooley might even play a little H-back/fullback, too. On third downs, Leonard Washington will come in as my third-down guy.

We have four pro bowlers from 2008 on our line: both tackles (Jake Long and Jammal Brown) and both guards (Chris Snee and Kris Dielman). Dominic Raiola is a strong center as well, and this group can run block like crazy and pass-protect as they need to.

Those guys will be blocking for a strong and reliable running back in Clinton Portis, who can carry the ball all day. When he needs a rest, we can bring in Joseph Addai to pound even harder.

On defense, we made a fundamental change in philosophy early in the draft. We were initially targeting a 46-style defense, which is why I went early on with two very strong CBs (Champ Bailey and Darrelle Revis), and two strong pass rushers (Mario Williams and Demarcus Ware). I then took Adrian Wilson as another of my many random pass rushers at other positions.

But then the opportunity arose to obtain Jared Allen, and I was also worried about my linebacker situation. So...the trade allowed us to make a strong shift in philosophy. Rather than have everybody randomly rushing, we instead went to more of a Steel Curtain philosophy. I put four very strong pass rushers up front (Mario Williams, Jared Allen, Tommie Harris, and Brandon Mebane) who combined for over 40 sacks last year. Yes, my front four AVERAGED 10 sacks each. That meant that I could then concentrate on linebackers who were fast and could cover.

Then in another trade I was fortunate to pick up Shaun Phillips, who can both cover and rush. So now my defense looks like this:

A front four that averaged 10 sacks per player in 2008
Two active back-seven guys who can cover and blitz strongly (Adrian Wilson and Shaun Phillips)
One sideline to sideline linebacker who can cover with the best of them (Keith Rivers)
One run-stuffer in the middle (either London Fletcher-Baker or Nick Barnett - not sure yet)
Two cornerbacks who can cover all day (Champ Bailey and Darelle Revis)
A ball-hawking strong safety in Jarrad Page who is going to be pushed by top rookie Louis Delmas.

On special teams, I went kicker early because I think my defense will keep scoring low, so field goals will be worth more in Super-Manatee games. For a similar reason, I took punter Mike Scifres, whose punts are rarely returned. This means that I won't give up any cheap return touchdowns. Conversely, we're stacked with good return guys, primarily Leon Washington on kick returns and Davone Bess on punt returns.

We're pretty much unbeatable.

Chiefs=Champions · 09-08-2009, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Yeah, the "reserve squad" isn't limited to rookies.

chiefs=good, I just glanced at your list, and just to confirm, you can't pick up waived people from other teams. It's your own roster only.

Really? ah that teh suck.. Na thats fine, one sec why i change some things...

Chiefs=Champions · 09-08-2009, 07:51 PM

* EDIT NO.3: For rules purposes...

Note: Starters in BOLD

Note: Rookies have a * next to their names

They include Nickle and Slot...

Offense
QB – Peyton Manning
QB – Derek Anderson
RB – Felix Jones
RB – LenDale White
RB – Mike Goodson*
FB – Madison Hedgecock
FB – Tony Fiammetta*
LT – Joe Staley
LG – Aaron Sears
C – Alex Mack*
RG – Mike Pollak
RT – Eric Winston
OG – Andrew Whitworth
OT – Jamon Meredith*
TE – Owen Daniels
WR – Steve Smith
WR – Michael Jenkins
WR – Lance Moore
WR – Jason Avant
WR – Ramses Barden*
WR – Derrick Williams*
WR – Dwayne Jarrett
WR – Muhsin Muhammad
WR – Kenneth Moore

Defense
CB – Marcus Trufant
CB – Nate Clements
CB – Nathan Vasher
CB – C.J. Wilson
DE – Patrick Kerney
DT – Albert Haynesworth
DT – Marcus Stroud
DE – Justin Tuck
DT – Jovan Haye
DE/DT – Calais Campbell
DT – Nick Hayden
DE – Lawrence Jackson
DE – Charles Johnson
DE – Tyler Brayton
DE/OLB – Vernon Gholston
ROLB – Lance Briggs
MLB – David Harris
LOLB – Brian Cushing*
MLB – E.J. Henderson
OLB – Justin Durant
OLB – Na'il Diggs
ILB – Dan Connor
FS – Oshiomogho Atogwe
FS – Charles Godfrey
SS – Tyrell Johnson
SS – James Butler

Special Teams
KR/PR – Danieal Manning
P – Pat McAfee*
K – John Kasay

Practice Squad
PS. – OG – Mackenzy Bernadeau
PS. – K – Rhys Lloyd[/QUOTE]

**cdcox** · 09-08-2009, 10:18 PM

I consider Greenville to be in the equivalent to the post-Herm Edwards era, but I think we match up pretty well against Bradenton, as long as some of my key players progress.

Your power running game is going to crash on the rock of my nose tackle, Pat Sims. While not yet a household name among nose tackles, Sims (not that Sims!) is a real space eater that had the best initial campaign among the rookie DTs last year. He has a break out year this season and permanently clogs the middle of my defense. If he fails to develop in to the black hole I envision, you'll have your way running, but I'm counting on Pat. Justin Smith is also a very active run defender, racking up 70+ tackles per year from his RDE position.

After Pat and company have engulfed your blockers, my active group of linebackers will smash your smashmouth. Jonathan Vilma, Takeo Spikes, and DJ Williams are all good for 90+ tackles per year. They'll be making contact at the LOS and arriving in numbers.

This isn't going to leave many tackles for my head hunting strong safety Chris Harris, who has forced 10 fumbles over the last two seasons. That's okay, he'll take out his frustration and aggression on your smurfy little receivers. Better bring lots of stretchers.

While Harris is smashing the short routes, Michael Griffin is roaming the deep secondary. Teams tested him during his rookie year and paid for it to the tune of 7 interceptions. My starting corners aren't great, but there is very little fall off from 1 to 4 (Will Allen, Andre Goodman, Jonathan Joseph and Tyvon Branch). I can match up very well in your 3 and 4 receiver packages. LOOK OUT HERE COMES CHRIS HARRIS AGAIN. Ha ha, your surfs all have alligator arms.

If you get a chance to pass. I'm sending DE John Abraham and LB Greg Ellis (oh yes, I have not even mentioned these two yet!) from opposite sides of the field. Think Neil Smith and DT. Tremble. I also have depth on the DL to give enough rest to the stars so they'll have a 4th quarter burst. HERE COMES CHRIS HARRIS ON THE SAFETY BLITZ. <--Whoops, did you notice that I just sacked your QB? Oh yes, I know how how to disguise my blitzes.

Now I have the ball. Chad Pennington starts the game and he comes out passing. Every play. I've got a couple of book end tackles in (future all world) Jason Smith and Jonathan Stinchcomb. Solid guard play from Justin Smiley and Chester Pitts. Hartwig can hold his own as center, but I actually think my best center is Leroy Harris, but I might have to wait a year to prove that. And I can use FB Le'Ron McClain in max protect schemes. Yeah your pass rush gets to Chad once in a while. Maybe more than once in a while. Maybe you knock him out of the game. Good. I don't really like him as my QB anyway. I've got stout David Garrard waiting in the wings. My QBs aren't great but I've got two of them. And by doing this, I wear down your pass rush to the point where your big guys have their hands on their hips and tongues hanging out by the 3rd quarter. I further wear your guys down (and keep drives alive) by mixing in a few reverses (Maclin and Hixon) and screens (DeAngelo Williams). Your big guys legs are jello. Pass rush neutralized. Oh yes.

Sure you have two shut down corners, to take care of Welker (well maybe) and Hixon (another breakout player this season, wait and see). But who matches up with Dallas Clark, who plays like a 3rd wide out? Then I throw Jeremy Maclin into the mix and uh oh, who is going to cover him?

Now you have tired pass rushers and a bunch of defensive backs in the game to guard my four 1000 yard receivers. Here comes DeAngelo Williams, running out of the single back set. Oh yes.

Marauders 1-0.

Mile High Mania · 09-09-2009, 07:53 AM

Crested Butte-Holes ... starters are in bold.

Overall, I think this is a stellar team with the lone question mark really being the durability and health of the QBs. Schaub is always a risk for injury, but I made the decision to trade away Cassel and I think it will prove to be a wise move, at least early on this season.

Offensively, we have a lot of options... great pass catching WRs that love to rack up YAC and a stone cold stud at TE with Olsen. The ground game will be led by the punishing work of Jacobs, with Kevin Smith coming in for about 10 carries a game. And, while Hillis is not your 'stereotypical' FB... his well rounded game brings another dimension as he can be a RB and a great threat in the passing game, which should provide Schaub with a ton of opportunities.

Speaking of keeping Schaub healthy, that Oline is pretty tight and it's up to them to keep him vertical and I see no real issues with them at this point.

Defensively, Peppers gives us the ability to run a 4-3 or a 3-4 in the right situations. The DLINE has a lot of versatility and they should give the LBs a ton of opportunities to create turnovers. We have a lot of depth up front on the DLINE and with the LBs, the plan is to keep them fresh and healthy with a solid rotation throughout the game when needed.

And, when they do pass... good luck having success against this secondary!

Overall - I believe this is a fundamentally sound and well rounded team. And, as I scan the other rosters and look at the starters... there may be 2 teams that can stand toe to toe with this lineup on any given week.

QB (3)
Matt Schaub, QB
Trent Edwards, QB
Brunell,Mark QB ACT NO CBH
WR/TE (8)
Anquan Boldin, WR
TJ Houshmandzadeh, WR
Roy Williams, WR
Jordy Nelson, WR
Greg Olsen, TE
Jeremy Shockey, TE
Dinkins,Darnell TE ACT NO CBH
Woods,D'Juan WR RES NO CBH
RB (6)
Brandon Jacobs, RB
Kevin Smith, RB
Peyton Hillis, FB
Correll Buckhalter, RB
Bell,Mike RB ACT NO CBH
*Jerious Norwood, RB/KR (listed primarily as KR - shown in both places)
OL (11)
Marcus McNeil, LT
Robert Gallery, LG
Frank Omiyale, LT/LG
Olin Kreutz, C
Chris Myers, C
Chris Kuper, RG
Anthony Collins, RT
Leckey,Nick C ACT NO CBH
Collins,Anthony T ACT CIN CBH
Omiyale,Frank T ACT CHI CBH
Bushrod,Jermon T ACT NO CBH
ST (3)
Mason Crosby, K
Brad Maynard, P
*Jerious Norwood, KR/RB
DL (8)
Julius Peppers, DE/OLB
Ray Edwards, LDE
Kevin Williams, DT
Tommy Kelly, DT
Domata Peko, DT
Darryl Tapp, RDE
Clancy,Kendrick NT ACT NO CBH
Charleston, Jeff DE ACT NO CBH
LB (8)
Kirk Morrison, ILB
Zach Diles, OLB/SLB
Curtis Lofton, MLB
Gerald Hayes, MLB/ILB
Akeem Jordan, OLB
Simoneau,Mark MLB RES NO CBH
Dunbar,Jo-Lonn LB ACT NO CBH
Evans,Troy LB ACT NO CBH
DB (6)
Richard Marshall, CB
Charles Tillman, CB
Gibril Wilson, S
Roman Harper, S
Abram

Elam

, S

Torrence,Leigh DB ACT NO CBH



Practice Squad

Nesbit,Jamar G ACT NO CBH
Harper,Rod WR ACT NO CBH

Fat Elvis · 09-09-2009, 07:17 PM

Fear the mighty Cleveland Steamers!

Offense

Quarterback:
Drew Brees
Josh Freeman
Troy Smith

Running Back:
LaDanian Thomlinson
Knowshon Moreno
Jalen Parmele

Wide Reciever:
Randy Moss
Terrell Owens
Jared Cook
Patrick Turner
Kelly Washington
Demetrius Williams

Tight End:
Chase Coffman
LJ Smith

Offensive Line:
Chris Samuels
Steve Hutchinson
Andre Gurode
Alan Faneca
Flozell Adams
Sebastian Vollmer
Adam Terry
Tony Moll
TJ Lang
Chris Chester

Defense

Defensive Line:
John Henderson
Shawn Rogers
Ziggy Hood
Dwan Edwards
Sammie Lee Hill
Justin Bannan
Kelly Talavou

Line Backers:
Julian Peterson
James Laurinaitis
Dhani Jones
Brian Orakpo
Lawrence Sidbury
Jason Williams
Brendan Ayanbadejo
Antwan Barnes
Dannell Ellerbe

Defensive Backs:
Malcolm Jenkins
Leigh Bodden
Jarius Byrd
William Moore
Samari Rolle (PUP)
Sherrod Martin
Derek Cox
Ladarius Webb
Frank Walker
Chris Carr

Special Teams

Kicker:
Sebastian Janikowski

Long Snapper:
Matt Katula

Punter:
Is for pussies

chiefscafan · 09-09-2009, 08:59 PM

The cobras play a hybrid d of the ravens and steelers. It is an agressive D which dares you to run on them. With the intense leadership of Ray Lewis and the intensity of Rey maualuga. The pass rush is lead by two of the best in the league in Terrell suggs and James Harrison. The young D back field has tons of talent.

The offense is a shotgun offense running one TE one RB three WR. We throw deep short agressive in the passing game. Chris Johnson is dynamic and will add a lot of flash to this O. While disapointed bout the whole crabtree situation but we have faith we will eventually sign him. Mean while we feel confident in the future of Matt cassel and made a bold move to acquire him to back him up 2 vets who are willing to jump in case of injury or ineffictiveness.

As I stated time and time again this is a team so special teams was built to be a factor as well. We have arguably the best KR in the game in Josh cribbs. The punter is the underated Donnie jones. With the best kicker in the game in rob bironas the special teams unit is one of the best in the league.

The Glitz and Glamour of football returns to LA get ready cause it's gonna be a fun season.

**cdcox** · 09-10-2009, 09:35 PM

Bunch of teams didn't finalize their rosters.

So far tonight, Hartwig didn't play well, but Michael Griffin forced the game saving fumble against Holmes.

**The Franchise** · 09-11-2009, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefscafan

The cobras play a hybrid d of the ravens and steelers. It is an agressive D which dares you to run on them. With the intense leadership of Ray Lewis and the intensity of Rey maualuga. The pass rush is lead by two of the best in the league in Terrell suggs and James Harrison. The young D back field has tons of talent.

The offense is a shotgun offense running one TE one RB three WR. We throw deep short agressive in the passing game. Chris Johnson is dynamic and will add a lot of flash to this O. While disapointed bout the whole crabtree situation but we have faith we will eventually sign him. Mean while we feel confident in the future of Matt cassel and made a bold move to acquire him to back him up 2 vets who are willing to jump in case of injury or ineffictiveness.

As I stated time and time again this is a team so special teams was built to be a factor as well. We have arguably the best KR in the game in Josh cribbs. The punter is the underated Donnie jones. With the best kicker in the game in rob bironas the special teams unit is one of the best in the league.

The Glitz and Glamour of football returns to LA get ready cause it's gonna be a fun season.

The best kicker in the game didn't look so great last night.

**doomy3** · 09-11-2009, 10:29 AM

What happens with all these teams that didn't submit their final rosters? Have you sent them all a PM Rain Man?

**Rain Man** · 09-11-2009, 10:35 AM

We need 'em to submit. I'm swamped at work right now; can someone tally up who's done and who's AWOL? I'll then send 'em a PM.

**doomy3** · 09-11-2009, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

We need 'em to submit. I'm swamped at work right now; can someone tally up who's done and who's AWOL? I'll then send 'em a PM.

From what I can tell, here's who has done them:

Fat Elvis
Mile High Mania
I=SUCK
chiefscafan
cdcox
Rain Man
Burger
jwazzie
truebigdog
doomy3
Pestilence

These are the people who DID NOT submit a roster:

bdeg
Mr. Arrowhead
Kyle DeLexus
rockio42
Ultra Peanut
darosa88
KCKing
Bowser

chiefscafan · 09-11-2009, 12:04 PM

I know wrote the bironas comment b4 last night. I think it was opening night jitters but he looked awfull.

I wish crabtree would just sign or sign and then trade him.

03-22-2009, 04:19 PM
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-722449 VARSITY	Alternate Reality Game 3: Starting From Scratch General Concept: Take over a roster of NFL players and build/trade it through the draft, trades, and free agency. Number of Players: Up to 32, maybe up to 40. Basic Rules: Go here: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...22#post5909122 I think pestilence has the latest in the thread header, but just in case, I pasted the latest in Post #12. Draft Order - Veteran Draft 1 Chiefs=Good: Fort Wayne Dancers 2 bdeg: Philadelphia Battery Tossers 3 Mr. Arrowhead: Wichita Ballbashers (formerly Honolulu Hulas) 4 Chiefscafan: Los Angeles Purple Cobras 5 Kyle Delexus/MWagg72: Kansas City Kings 6 truebigdog: San Antonio Scorpions 7 rockio42: St. Louis Stallions 8 Ultra Peanut: Burlington Blue Barracudas 9 Fat Elvis: Cleveland Steamers 10 Pestilenceaf23: Tucson Twisters 11 cdcox: Greenville Marauders 12 Mile High Mania: Crested Butte-Holes (formerly Memphis Malt Liquor) 13 doomy3: Chattanooga Choo Choos 14 darosa88: Boise Beetdiggers 15 jwazzie: Wichita Wee Willies (formerly St. Louis Commodes) 16 Rain Man: Bradenton Super-Manatees 17 Burger: Knoxville Kiffins 18 KC King: Milwaukee Mud Ducks 19 Bowser: Atlantic City Hitmen Divisions East 2 bdeg: PBT 8 Ultra Peanut: BBB 9 Fat Elvis: CS 18 KC King: MMD 20 Bowser: ACH Midwest 1 Chiefs=Good: FWD 5 Kyle Delexus: KCK 7 rockio42: SLS 15 jwazzie: WWW South 11 cdcox: GM 12 Mile High Mania: CBH 13 doomy3: CCC 16 Rain Man: BSM 17 Burger: KK West 3 Mr. Arrowhead: WB 4 Chiefscafan: LAPC 6 truebigdog: SAS 10 Pestilenceaf23: TTT 14 Darosa88: BBD Edit: The clock is now 8 hours if you are not currently behind on your picks. If you are behind 1 pick, your clock will be 2 hours. If you are behind 2 or more picks, you will be skipped immedately, but will be notified. Owners are encouraged to leave a short list of preferred players with a trusted adult if they believe that they will not be immediately present for their pick. The Remainder Round Draft Order is below, but I'm hiding it for the moment so people don't get confused with the regular draft order. Spoiler! Round 34 Draft Order: Remainder Round. You can make trades to change the order of these picks, but you cannot trade away your Remainder Round pick without replacing it. 1 rockio42: St. Louis Stallions 2 jwazzie: Wichita Wet Willies 3 doomy3: Chattanooga Choo Choos (NOW HELD BY LAPC) 4 Fat Elvis: Cleveland Steamers 5 Burger: Knoxville Kiffins 6 Mile High Mania: Crested Butte-Holes (NOW HELD BY SAS) 7 Darosa88: Boise Beetdiggers 8 KC King: Milwaukee Mud Ducks 9 Pestilenceaf23: Tucson Twisters (NOW HELD BY BSM) 10 Chiefscafan: Los Angeles Purple Cobras (NOW HELD BY CCC) 11 bdeg: Philadelphia Battery Tossers 12 Ultra Peanut: Burlington Blue Barracudas 13 cdcox: Greenville Marauders 14 Chiefs=Good: Fort Wayne Dancers 15 Rain Man: Bradenton Super-Manatees (NOW HELD BY TTT) 16 Kyle Delexus/MWagg72: Kansas City Kings 17 Bowser: Atlantic City Hitmen 18 Mr. Arrowhead: Wichita Ballbashers 19 truebigdog: San Antonio Scorpions (NOW HELD BY CBH) First 30 rounds are here: Spoiler! Round 1 1. FWD - Peyton Manning, QB 2. PBT - Matt Ryan, QB 3. HH - Adrian Peterson, RB 4. LAPC - Chris Johnson, RB 5. KC Kings - Tom Brady, QB 6. SAS - Michael Turner, RB 7. SLS - Joe Thomas, LT 8. BBB - Larry Fitzgerald, WR 9. CS - Drew Brees, QB 10. TTT - Calvin Johnson, WR 11. GM - DeAngelo Williams, RB 12. MML - Matt Cassel, QB 13. CCC- Ben Roethlisberger, QB 14. BBD - Phillip Rivers, QB 15. SLC - Andre Johnson, WR 16. BSM - Demarcus Ware, OLB - Traded to BBD 17. KK - Patrick Willis, ILB 18. MMD - Shawne "roidman" Merriman, OLB - Traded to BBD 19. ACH - Tony Romo, QB Round 2 19. ACH - Brian Westbrook, RB 18. MMD - Ed Reed, FS 17. KK - Aaron Rodgers, QB 16. BSM - Mario Williams, DE 15. SLC - Matt Forte, RB 14. BBD - Jared Allen, DE - Traded to BSM 13. CCC- Roddy White, WR 12. MML - Julius Peppers, DE/OLB 11. GM- Jonathan Vilma, LB 10. Tuscon Tittie Twisters- Jay Cutler, QB 9. CS - Randy Moss, WR 8. BBB - Eli Manning, QB 7. SLS - Jon Beason, ILB 6. SAS - Mathias Kiawanuka, DE 5. KCK - Osi Umenyiora, DE 4. LAPC - James Harrison OLB/DE 3. HH - Jerrod Mayo MLB 2. PBT - Haloti Ngata NT 1. FWD - Albert Haynesworth DT Round 3 1. FWD - Justin Tuck DE 2. PBT - Ryan Clady, OT 3. HH - Joe Flacco, QB 4. LAPC - Terrell Suggs, OLB/DE 5. KCK - Vince Wilfork, NT 6. SAS - Carson Palmer, QB 7. SLS - Greg Jennings, WR 8. BBB - Richard Seymour, DE 9. CS - LaDainian Tomlinson, RB 10. TTT - Stephen Jackson, RB 11. GM - Chad Pennington, QB 12. MML - Kevin Williams, DT 13. CCC- Nnamdi Asomugha, CB 14. BBD - Reggie Wayne, WR, traded to MMD 15. SLC- Walter Jones, OT 16. BSM - Jake Long, OT 17. KK - Joey Porter, OLB 18. MMD - Marion Barber, HB 19. ACH - Troy Polamalu, SS Round 4. 19. ACH - Dwight Freeney, DE 18. MMD - Donovan McNabb, QB 17. KK - Brandon Marshall, WR 16. BSM - Darrelle Revis, CB 15. STL Commodes- Brian Urlacher, ILB 14. BBD - Reggie Bush, RB/WR/KR/PR 13. CCC- Bob Sanders, SS 12. MML - Anquan Bolden, WR 11. GM - John Abraham, DE 10. TTT - DeMeco Ryans, ILB 9. CS - Shaun Rogers, DT 8. BBB - Casey Hampton, NT 7. SLS - LaRon Landry, FS 6. SAS - Branden Albert, OT 5. KCK - Braylon Edwards, WR 4. LAPC - Ray Lewis, ILB 3. HH- Eddie Royal, WR 2. PBT - Dwayne Bowe, WR 1. FWD - Steve Smith, WR Round 5 1. FWD, Marcus Trufant, CB 2. PBT - Lamarr Woodley, OLB 3. HH- Antonio Cromartie, CB 4. LAPC - Trent Edwards, QB 5. KCK - Micheal Roos, OT 6. SAS - D'Qwell Jackson, ILB 7. SLS - Aaron Kampman, DE 8. BBB - Karlos Dansby, ILB 9. CS - Terrell Owens, WR 10. TTT - Marques Colston, WR 11. GM - Wes Welker, WR 12. MML - TJ Houshmandzadeh, WR 13. CCC- Maurice Jones-Drew, RB 14. BBD - Asante Samuel, CB, traded to MMD 15. SLC - Chad Ocho Cinco, WR 16. BSM - Champ Bailey, CB 17. KK - Charles Woodson, CB 18. MMD - Lee Evans WR 19. ACH - Steve Breaston, WR Round 6. 19. ACH - Derrick Johnson, ILB 18. MMD - Anthony Gonzalez WR 17. KK - Ted Ginn Jr. Wr 16. BSM - Clinton Portis, HB 15. SLC - Tony Gonzales, TE 14. BBD - Jason Peters, OT - Traded to CCC 13. CCC- Antonio Gates, TE 12. MMLs - Brandon Jacobs, RB 11. GM - Michael Griffin, S 10. TTT - Jason Witten, TE 9. CS- Chris Samuels, OT 8. BBB - Cortland Finnegan, CB 7. SLS - Darnell Dockett, UT 6. SAS - DeSean Jackson, WR 5. KCK - Frank Gore, RB 4. LAPC - John Henderson, DE/DT 3. HH - Alex Brown, DE 2. PBT - Jay Ratliff, DE 1. FWD - Oshiomogho Atogwe, FS Round 7 1. FWD - Lance Briggs, OLB 2. PBT - Shaun Phillips, OLB 3. HH - Santonio Holmes, WR 4. LAPC - Bart Scott, ILB 5. KCK - Devin Hester, WR,KR,PR 6. SAS - Domonique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB 7. SLS - Ronnie Brown, HB 8. BBB - Steve Slaton, HB 9. CS - Julian Peterson, OLB 10. TTT - Jordan Gross, LT 11. PBT - Glenn Dorsey, DE 12. MML - Marcus McNeil, LT 13. CCC- Trent Cole, OLB/DE 14. BBD - Leodis McKelvin, CB - Traded to CCC 15. SLC - Kyle Vanden Bosch, DE 16. BSM - Jammal Brown, OT 17. KK - Chris Long, DE 18. MMD - Robert Mathis, DE 19. ACH - Bryant McKinnie ,OT Round 8 19. ACH - Jamal Williams, NT 18. MMD - Bradie James, ILB - Traded to BBD, then MMD 17. KK - Shaun Ellis, DE 16. BSM - Tommie Harris, DT 15. SLC - Nick Mangold, C 14. BBD - Keith Rivers, LB, trade to BSM 13. CCC- Ty Warren, DT/DE 12. MML - Kris Jenkins, NT - Traded to BBD 11. GM - Dallas Clark, TE 10. TTT - Rashean Mathis, CB 9. CS - Flozell Adams, OT 8. SLS - Kellen Winslow, TE 7. SLS - Amobi Okoye, NT 6. TTT - Gaines Adams, DE 5. KCK - Barrett Ruud, ILB 4. LAPC - Dustin Keller, TE 3. CCC- A.J. Hawk, LB (Via Trade with Sully) 2. GM - Andre Goodman, CB 1. LAPC - WR Antonio Bryant Round 9 1. FWD - DT Marcus Stroud 2. PBT - Darren McFadden, RB 3. HH - Ryan Diem, OT 4. CCC- Ernie Sims, LB 5. TTT - Kenny Phillips, FS 6. SAS - Chad Greenway, OLB 7. BBB - D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT 8. BBB - Vincent Jackson, WR 9. CS - Steve Hutchinson, G 10. MML - Greg Olsen, TE 11. GM - Jon Stinchcomb, OT 12. MML - Roy Williams, WR 13. TTT - Thomas Howard, OLB 14. BBD - Bernard Berrian, WR 15. SLC - Devery Henderson, WR 16. BSM - Adrian Wilson, SS 17. KK - Ryan Grant, RB 18. PBT - Corey Webster, CB 19. ACH - Hines Ward, WR Round 10 19. ACH - DeAngelo Hall, CB 18. BSM - Chris Snee, G 17. KK - Levi Brown, LT 16. LAPC - Donald Penn, LT 15. SLC - Jake Delhomme, QB 14. BBD - Rocky Bernard, DT, trade to ACH 13. TTT - Lofa Tatupu, LB 12. TTT - Sedrick Ellis, DT 11. GM - DJ Williams, OLB 10. KCK - Terrence Newman, CB 9. MML - Matt Schaub, QB 8. SLS - Ron Bartell, CB 7. SLS - Leroy Hill, OLB 6. MML - Kevin Smith, RB 5. KCK - David Stewart, RT 4. MML - Kirk Morrison, LB 3. HH - Marshall Yanda, G 2. PBT - Jonathan Stewart, RB 1. FWD - David Harris, ILB Round 11 1. PBT - Kerry Rhoades, S 2. PBT - Carlos Rogers - CB 3. HH - Dusty Dvoracek, DT 4. CCC- Jared Gaither, LT 5. KC Kings - James Farrior, ILB 6. SAS - Eric Weddle, S 7. BBB - Nick Collins, S 8. BBB - Chris Canty, DE 9. CS - Alan Faneca, G 10. TTT - Jerricho Cotchery, WR 11. GM - Justin Smith, DE 12. LAPC - Antrelle Rolle, FS 13. LAPC - Brandon Meriweather , SS 14. BBD - Nick Barnett, ILB, trade to BSM 15. SLC - Brian Waters, G 16. BSM - Kurt Warner, QB 17. KK - Donald Driver, WR 18. MMD - Chris Horton, SS 19. ACH - Dan Koppen, C Round 12 19. ACH - Erik Coleman, FS 18. MMD - Freddy Keiaho, OLB 17. KK - Chris Hope, S 16. BSM - Santana Moss, WR 15. LAPC - Dunta Robinson, CB 14. BBD - Leonard Davis, OG 13. CCC- Chris Gamble, CB 12. MML - Curtis Lofton, MLB 11. GM - Jason Brown, C 10. TTT - Marshawn Lynch, RB 9. MML - Richard Marshall, CB 8. BBB - Adalius Thomas, OLB 7. SLS - Jeff Otah, RT 6. TTT - Duane Brown, LT 5. TTT - Jeff Faine, C 4. CCC- Aqib Talib, FS 3. HH - Broderick Bunkley, DT 2. PBT - Lawrence Timmons, ILB 1. FWD - Joe Staley, LT Round 13 1. FWD - Owen Daniels, TE 2. PBT - Vernon Davis, TE 3. HH - Stacey Andrews, RT 4. LAPC - Brandon Flowers, CB 5. KC Kings - Ellis Hobbs, CB 6. SAS - Paul Pozluzny, ILB 7. MML - Gibril Wilson, S 8. BBB - Parys Haralson, OLB 9. CS - Andre Gurode, C 10. MML - Charles Tillman, CB 11. GM - Will Allen, CB 12. TTT - Leon Hall, CB 13. CCC - Shawn Andrews, OG/OT 14. BBD - Antoine Bethea, FS - traded to KC Kings 15. SLC - Yeremiah Bell, SS 16. BSM - Laveranues Coles, WR 17. KK - Davin Joseph, G 18. BSM - Brandon Mebane, DT 19. ACH - Antonio Pierce, MLB Round 14 19. ACH - Larry Johnson, RB 18. MMD - Will Smith, DE 17. KK - Ben Grubbs, OG 16. BSM - Chris Cooley, TE 15. CCC - Luis Castillo, DE/DT 14. BBD - Tony Ugoh, LT, traded to MMD 13. BBD - Ken Hamlin, FS 12. TTT - Cliff Avril, DE 11. GM - Greg Ellis, DE 10. CCC - Adam Carriker, DT 11. FWD - Felix Jones, RB 8. TTT - Reggie Nelson, FS 7. SLC - Daryl Smith, LB 6. SAS - Ryan Kalil, OC 5. KCK - Cullen Jenkins, DE 4. SLC - Larry Foote, MLB 3. HH - Kamerion Wimbley, OLB 2. PBT - Thomas Davis, OLB 1. FWD - Patrick Kerney, DE Round 15 1. FWD - Nate Clements, CB 2. TTT - Mike Patterson, DT 3. HH - Sheldon Brown, CB 4. SLC - Bertrand Berry, DE 5. BBD - Quentin Jammer, CB 6. SAS - Justin Blaylock, G 7. SLS - Channing Crowder, MLB 8. BBB - Vernon Carey, OT 9. MML - Stephen Cooper, ILB 10. SLS - Jahri Evans, RG 11. CCC - Pierre Thomas, RB 12. SLS - Tanard Jackson, FS 13. CCC - Derrick Harvey, DE 14. BSM - Kris Dielman, G 15. SLC - Ronde Barber, CB 16. TTT - Elvis Dumervil, DE 17. KK - Zach Miller, TE 18. BBD - Logan Mankins, G 19. ACH - Donnie Avery, WR Round 16 19. ACH - Willie Colon - RT 18. MMD - Antoine Cason, CB 17. KK - Jason Jones, DT 16. BBD - David Diehl, LT 15. SLC - Barry Cofield, NT 14. BSM - Jarrad Page, FS 13. BBD - Antoine Winfield - CB 12. MML - Roman Harper, S 11. GM - Chester Pitts, G 10. PBT - Jeremy Trueblood, RT 9. FWD - Aaron Sears, G 8. BBB - Nick Hardwick, C 7. SLS - Kelvin Hayden, CB 6. MML - Olin Kreutz, C 5. KCK - Todd Herremans, OG 4. LAPC - Nate Washington, WR 3. HH - Kawika Mitchell, OLB 2. PBT - Harvey Dahl, G 1. FWD - Vernon Gholston, DE/OLB Round 17 1. FWD - Lance Moore, WR 2. PBT - Aaron Smith, DE 3. HH - Mark Bradley, WR 4. LAPC - Josh Cribbs, WR/KR/PR 5. KCK - Jake Scott, OG 6. SAS - Ryan Harris, RT 7. SLS - Vince Manuwai, G 8. BBB - Terrence McGee, CB/KR 9. TTT - Carl Nicks, LG 10. PBT - Martellus Bennett, TE 11. CCC - Shaun O'Hara, C 12. SAS - Jamaal Anderson, DE 13. CCC - Stewart Bradley, ILB 14. MML - Ray Edwards, DE 15. SLC - Eric Barton, LB 16. BSM - Leon Washington, RB/KR/PR 17. KK - Orlando Pace, LT 18. BBD - Thomas Jones, RB 19. BBD - Matt Birk, C Round 18 19. ACH- Lito Sheppard, CB 18. BBD - Kevin Payne, SS 17. KK - Keith Bulluck, OLB 16. LAPC - Jeff Saturday, C 15. SLC - Ike Taylor, CB 14. BBD - John Carlson, TE 13. CCC - Chris Henry, WR 12. MML - Robert Gallery, G 11. CCC - Andre Carter, DE 10. SAS - Brandon Carr, CB 9. FWD - LenDale White, RB 8. BBB - Eric Steinbach, G 7. SLS - Jason Campbell, QB 6. SAS - Brady Popinga, OLB 5. KCK - Kevin Walter, WR 4. LAPC - Brett Favre, QB 3. HH - Jamaal Jackson, C 2. GM- Le'Ron McClain, FB 1. TTT - Brady Quinn, QB Round 19 1. FWD - Michael Jenkins, WR 2. PBT - Chris Houston, DB 3. HH - Quinten Mikell, FS 4. BBD - Langston Walker, OT 5. KCK - Derrick Ward, RB 6. SAS - Steve Smith, WR 7. SLS - Justin Gage, WR 8. SLS - Darren Sproles, RB 9. FWD - E.J. Henderson, LB 10. BSM - Stephen Gostkowski, K 11. GM - Domenick Hixon WR 12. MML - Peyton Hillis, FB 13. CCC - Kyle Orton, QB 14. BBD - Will Witherspoon, ILB 15. SLC - Ryan Clark, FS 16. MML - Darryl Tapp, RDE 17. KK - Nick Folk, K 18. MMD - Tony Brown, DT 19. ACH - Charles Grant, DE Round 20 19. MML - Zach Diles, OLB/SLB 18. MMD - Nick Kaczur, OT 17. KK - Brandon McDonald, CB 16. TTT - Eric Wright, CB 15. SLC - Sean Locklear, OT 14. LAPC - Rob Bironas, K 13. CCC - Travelle Wharton, OG 12. MML - Chris Kuper, RG 11. GM - Chris Williams, OT 10. SAS - Jim Leonhard, SS 9. FWD - Eric Winston, RT 8. BBB - Visanthe Shiancoe, TE 7. SLS - Darren Howard, DE 6. SAS - Daryn Colledge, RG 5. KCK - Calvin Pace, OLB 4. MML - Mason Crosby, K 3. HH - Willie Parker, RB 2. TTT - Deuce Lutui, RG 1. FWD - Mike Pollak, OG/C Round 21 1. PBT - Anthony Spencer, OLB 2. PBT - Robert Meacham, WR 3. WB - Matt Hasselbeck, QB 4. CCC - Manny Lawson, DE/OLB 5. KCK - Corey Williams, DE 6. CBH - Jerious Norwood, KR/RB 7. BBB - Mark Clayton, WR 8. BBB - Chinedum Ndukwe, SS 9. BBD - Pat Williams, NT 10. TTT - Anthony Fasano, TE 11. GM - Pat Sims, NT 12. LAPC - Trevor Pryce, DE 13. CCC - Kelly Gregg, DT 14. SAS - Johnny Jolly, NT 15. WWW - Justin Fargas, RB 16. BSM - Davone Bess, WR 17. KK - Sean Jones, S 18. MMD -Ben Claxton, C 19. ACH - Ben Leber - OLB Round 22 19. ACH - Marcedes Lewis - TE 18. MMD - Stephen Neal , G 17. KK - Corey Redding, DT 16. BSM - Scott Fujita, OLB 15. WWW - Eugene Amano, OG 14. BBD - Brett Keisel, DE 13. CCC - Ray Rice, RB 12. LAPC - Jason Ferguson, DT 11. GM - Chris Harris, SS 10. CBH - Tommy Kelly, DT 9. CCC - Heath Miller, TE 8. TTT - Sam Baker, LT 7. SLS - Aaron Ross, CB 6. SAS - Atari Bigby, S 5. KCK - Bo Scaife, TE 4. BBB - Chester Taylor, RB 3. WB- Brandon Moore, OG 2. PBT - Nate Kaeding, K 1. FWD - Andrew Whitworth, OG Round 23 1. FWD - Tyrell Johnson, S 2. PBT - Rashard Mendenhall, RB 3. WB - Aaron Schobel, DE 4. LAPC - Jamal Lewis 5. KCK - Josh Brown, K 6. SAS - Dustin Colquitt, P 7. SLS -Justin Hartwig, C 8. BBB - Pisa Tinoisamoa, LB 9. CCC - Derrick Dockery, OG 10. BSM -Joseph Addai, HB 11. GM - David Garrard, QB 12. TTT - Gosder Cherilus, RT 13. CBH - Anthony Collins, RT 14. BBD - Torry Holt, WR 15. WWW -Danny Clark, OLB 16. BSM - Dominic Raiola, C 17. KK - Justin Harrell, DT 18. MMD - Heath Evans , FB 19. ACH - Patrick Crayton, WR Round 24 19 ACH - Rich Seubert, G 18 MMD - Jonathan Babineaux , DT 17 KK - Tavares Gooden, MLB 16 CCC - James Jones, WR 15 WWW - Shane Lechler, P 14 BBD - Bernard Pollard, SS 13 CCC - Donte Whitner - SS/FS 12 LAPC - Kareem McKenzie, RT 11 GM - Takeo Spikes, ILB 10 BBB - Chilo Rachal, OG 9 CCC - Scott Wells, C 8 BBB - Al Harris, CB 7 SLS - Chris Clemons, DE 6 SAS - Josh Morgan, WR 5 KCK - Mike Jenkins, CB 4 CBH - Jordy Nelson, WR 3 WB - Darren Sharper, FS 2 PBT - Terrell Thomas, FS 1 FWD - Justin Durant, OLB Round 25 1 FWD - Calais Campbell, DE/DT 2 PBT - Brad Meester, C 3 WB - Deion Branch, WR 4 LAPC - Donnie Jones, P 5 KCK - Michael Johnson, SS 6 SAS - Brent Celek, TE 7 TTT - Earl Bennett, WR 8 TTT - John Sullivan, OC/OG 9 TTT - Rocky McIntosh, OLB 10 TTT - Jamaal Charles, RB/KR/PR 11 GM - Ahmad Bradshaw, RB 12 BBD - Kevin Boss, TE 13 CCC - Stephen Tulloch, MLB 14 LAPC - Tracy Porter, DB 15 WWW - Yamon Figurs, KR/PR/WR 16 CBH - Jeremy Shockey, TE 17 KK - Marc Bulger, QB 18 MMD - Amani Toomer, WR 19 ACH - Jacob Hester, FB Round 26 19 ACH - Donald Thomas, RG 18 MMD - Tony Scheffler, TE 17 KK - Jason Spitz C/G 16 BBD - Jarret Johnson, OLB 15 WWW - David Akers, K 14 BBD - Cedrick Griffin, CB 13 CCC - Jeremy Zuttah, OG/OT 12 CBH - Gerald Hayes, ILB/MLB 11 GM - Jonathan Joseph, CB 10 TTT - Jacob Ford, DE 9 BBD - Matt Light, LT 8 BBB - Tramon Williams, CB 7 SLS -Clint Session, OLB 6 SAS - Mike Vick WR/PR/KR 5 KCK - Dwight Lowery, DB 4 LAPC - Aubrayo Franklin, NT 3 WB - Greg Jones, FB 2 PBT - Jake Grove, G 1 FWD - Nathan Vasher, CB Round 27 1 FWD - James Butler, SS 2 PBT - Roscoe Parrish, WR/PR 3 WB - Zach Thomas, ILB 4 BBD - Ryan Lilja, G 5 BBD - Julius Jones, HB 6 SAS - Kendall Langford, DE 7 SLS - Jacob Bell, OG 8 BBB- Igor Olshansky, DE 9 BBD - Cedric Benson, HB 10 CBH - Domata Peko, DT 11 GM - Justin Smiley, G 12 BBD - Brian Dawkins, FS 13 CCC - Dawan Landry, SS 14 MMD - Casey Rabach, C 15 WWW - Tony Richardson, FB 16 BSM - Mike Scifres, P 17 KK - Deltha O'Neal, CB 18 MMD - Vince Young, QB 19 ACH - David Thornton - OLB Round 28x 19 ACH - Phillip Buchanon - CB 18 MMD - Tarell Brown, Nickle 17 KK - Lousaka Polite, FB 16 MMD - Mike Brown, Safety 15 WWW - Rex Hadnot, G 14 BBD - Eugene Wilson, S 13 CCC - Phillip Merling, DE/DT 12 SAS - Sage Rosenfels, QB 11 GM - Trevor Scott, DE 10 TTT - Tank Tyler, DT 9 BBD - Robbie Gould, K 8 BBB - Gabe Watson, NT 7 SLS - Mike Karney, FB 6 SAS - Garrett Hartley, K 5 KCK - Sidney Rice, WR 4 BBD - Pierre Woods, LB 3 WB - Adewale Ogenleye, DE 2 TTT - Josh Beekman, OG 1 FWD - Lawrence Jackson, DE Round 29 1 FWD - Madison Hedgecock, FB 2 TTT - Devin Thomas, WR 3 WB - Kentwan Balmer, DT 4 CCC - Kris Brown, K 5 KCK - Lawrence Vickers, FB 6 SAS - Owen Schmitt, FB 7 CCC - Jerome Harrison, RB 8 BBB - Alex Smith, QB 9 CS - Sebastian Janikowski, K 10 LAPC - Marcus Spears, DE 11 GM - Rashad Jeanty, LB 12 CBH - Chris Myers, C 13 CCC - Derrick Burgess, DE/OLB 14 BSM - London Fletcher-Baker, MLB 15 WWW - Byron Leftwich, QB 16 BSM - Matt Roth, DE 17 KK - Earnest Graham, HB 18 LAPC - Anthony Herrera, G 19 ACH - Neil Rackers, K Round 30 19 ACH - Chris Kluwe, P 18 MMD - Craig Hentrich, P 17 KK - Brett Kern, P 16 BSM - Chansi Stuckey, WR 15 WWW - Jevon Kearse, DE 14 BSM - Matt Leinert, QB 13 CCC - Tamba Hali, DE/OLB 12 CBH - Akeem Jordan, OLB 11 GM - Gerald Sensabaugh, FS 10 BSM - Todd Heap, TE 9 CS - Dhani Jones, ILB 8 BBB - Ryan Longwell, K 7 SLS - Laurent Robinson, WR 6 SAS - Tim Hightower, RB 5 KCK - Samsom Satele, C 4 BSM - Marcus Harrison, DT 3 WB - Marc Colombo, RT 2 PBT - Vonta Leach, FB 1 FWD - Daniel Manning, KR/PR/FS Last edited by Rain Man; 08-14-2009 at 10:17 AM..
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09-08-2009, 05:04 PM	#4291
cdcox www.nfl-forecast.com Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $-618231	Greenville Marauders Tentative starters in italics. My understanding is that we don't have to list our final starters until the end of the season. I list 3rd WR and FB as situational starters. I run a base 3-4. Quarterbacks (3) `Pennington,Chad QB ACT MIA GM Garrard,David QB ACT JAC GM <- could easily end up starting Gradkowski,Bruce QB ACT OAK GM` Running Backs (6) `Bush,Michael RB ACT OAK GM Rankin,Louis RB ACT OAK GM Bradshaw,Ahmad RB ACT NYG GM Williams,DeAngelo RB ACT CAR GM McClain,Le'Ron FB ACT BAL GM <-situational starter O'Neal,Oren FB ACT OAK GM` Wide Receivers (6) `Welker,Wes WR ACT NE GM Higgins,Johnnie Lee WR ACT OAK GM <-return man Walker,Javon WR ACT OAK GM Austin,Miles WR ACT DAL GM Hixon,Domenik WR ACT NYG GM Maclin,Jeremy WR ACT PHI GM <-situational starter` Tight Ends (2) `Clark,Dallas TE ACT IND GM Myers,Brandon TE ACT OAK GM` Offensive Linemen (9) `Hartwig,Justin C ACT PIT GM Harris,Leroy C ACT TEN GM Smiley,Justin G ACT MIA GM Pitts,Chester G ACT HOU GM Carlisle,Cooper G ACT OAK GM Williams,Chris OT ACT CHI GM Smith,Jason OT ACT STL GM Barnes,Khalif T ACT OAK GM Stinchcomb,Jonathan T ACT NO GM` Defensive Linemen (8) `Johnson,Michael DE ACT CIN GM Richardson,Jay DE ACT OAK GM Scott,Trevor DE ACT OAK GM Abraham,John DE ACT ATL GM Smith,Justin DE ACT SF GM Knighton,Terrance NT ACT JAC GM Sims,Pat NT ACT CIN GM Warren,Gerard NT ACT OAK GM` Linebackers (8) `Ellis,Greg OLB ACT OAK GM Vilma,Jonathan ILB ACT NO GM Spikes,Takeo ILB ACT SF GM Williams,DJ OLB ACT DEN GM Jeanty,Rashad LB ACT CIN GM Alston,Jon LB ACT OAK GM Brown,Ricky LB ACT OAK GM Williams,Sam LB ACT OAK GM` Defensive Backs (9) `Allen,Will CB ACT MIA GM Goodman,Andre CB ACT DEN GM Joseph,Johnathan CB ACT CIN GM <-Nickel corner Branch,Tyvon CB ACT OAK GM <- starting at SS with Oakland this year, but I'm keeping him as a possible nickel corner Griffin,Michael FS ACT TEN GM Eugene,Hiram FS ACT OAK GM Johnson,Michael FS ACT NYG GM Sensabaugh,Gerald SS ACT DAL GM Harris,Chris SS ACT CAR GM` Special Teams (2) `Lindell,Rian K ACT BUF GM Huber,Kevin P ACT CIN GM` Reserves (2) `Huff,Michael FS ACT OAK GM Ekejiuba,Isaiah LB ACT OAK GM`
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09-08-2009, 07:11 PM	#4292
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	53 Man Roster for LOs Angeles Purple Cobras: QB: (3) 7 Matt Cassel 4 Brett Farve 5 Kerry Collins RB: (3) 28 Chris Johnson 31 Jamal Lewis 29 Glen Coffee WR: (6) 89 Antonio Bryant 80 Kevin Curtis 87 Nate Washington 86 Reggie Brown 19 Brandon Gibson 15 Michael Crabtree TE: (2) 81 Dustin Keller 82 Alex Smith OG: (4) 73 Anthony Herrera 53 Antoine Caldwell 63 Kyle Kosier 78 Mike McGlynn OT: (4) 70 Donald Penn 67 Kareem Mckenzie 71 Phil Loadholt 74 Winston Justice C: (1) 63 Jeff Saturday P: (1) 6 Donnie JOnes K: (1) 2 Rob bironas PR/KR: (1) 16 Josh Cribbs NT: (2) 95 Jason Ferguson 92 Aubrayo Franklin DE: (5) 90 Trevor Pryce 96 Marcus Spears 77 Matt Shaughnesy 90 Darren Howard 94 Victor Abiamiri OLB: (6) 92 James Harrison 55 Terrell Suggs 50 Mike Vrabel 51 Marcus Freeman 54 Akeem JOrdan 96 Omar Gaither ILB: (4) 52 Ray Lewis 58 Rey Maualuga 56 Scott McKilliop 51 Joe Mays CB: (5) 24 Brandon Flowers 22 Tracy Porter 23 Daunta Robinson 37 Ellis Hobbs 35 Macho Harris FS (3): 21 Antrel Rolle 39 Quinten Demps 26 Sean JOnes SS (2): 36 Brandon Merriweather 27 Quintin Mikell IR : 87 WR Brandon Tate 59 LB Brandon Williams Ok so far I'm still doing some editing Last edited by chiefscafan; 09-08-2009 at 07:59 PM..
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09-08-2009, 07:30 PM	#4293
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-722449 VARSITY	So here's my plan. First, the offense. My team is built for a powerful run game mixed with a fast-action short passing game that creates opportunities for YAC yards. My quarterback is Kurt Warner, for whom that type of passing game is a strength. Running routes is a hobbit army of fast-cutting, good-route-running receivers: Santana Moss, Derrick Mason, Laveranues Coles, Chansi Stuckey, and Davone Bess, with Troy Williamson available to run our occasional fade routes in the end zone. All have speed for the deep routes off play-action, too. Chris Cooley and Leonard Weaver are both good short-yardage guys out of the backfield, and Cooley might even play a little H-back/fullback, too. On third downs, Leonard Washington will come in as my third-down guy. We have four pro bowlers from 2008 on our line: both tackles (Jake Long and Jammal Brown) and both guards (Chris Snee and Kris Dielman). Dominic Raiola is a strong center as well, and this group can run block like crazy and pass-protect as they need to. Those guys will be blocking for a strong and reliable running back in Clinton Portis, who can carry the ball all day. When he needs a rest, we can bring in Joseph Addai to pound even harder. On defense, we made a fundamental change in philosophy early in the draft. We were initially targeting a 46-style defense, which is why I went early on with two very strong CBs (Champ Bailey and Darrelle Revis), and two strong pass rushers (Mario Williams and Demarcus Ware). I then took Adrian Wilson as another of my many random pass rushers at other positions. But then the opportunity arose to obtain Jared Allen, and I was also worried about my linebacker situation. So...the trade allowed us to make a strong shift in philosophy. Rather than have everybody randomly rushing, we instead went to more of a Steel Curtain philosophy. I put four very strong pass rushers up front (Mario Williams, Jared Allen, Tommie Harris, and Brandon Mebane) who combined for over 40 sacks last year. Yes, my front four AVERAGED 10 sacks each. That meant that I could then concentrate on linebackers who were fast and could cover. Then in another trade I was fortunate to pick up Shaun Phillips, who can both cover and rush. So now my defense looks like this: A front four that averaged 10 sacks per player in 2008 Two active back-seven guys who can cover and blitz strongly (Adrian Wilson and Shaun Phillips) One sideline to sideline linebacker who can cover with the best of them (Keith Rivers) One run-stuffer in the middle (either London Fletcher-Baker or Nick Barnett - not sure yet) Two cornerbacks who can cover all day (Champ Bailey and Darelle Revis) A ball-hawking strong safety in Jarrad Page who is going to be pushed by top rookie Louis Delmas. On special teams, I went kicker early because I think my defense will keep scoring low, so field goals will be worth more in Super-Manatee games. For a similar reason, I took punter Mike Scifres, whose punts are rarely returned. This means that I won't give up any cheap return touchdowns. Conversely, we're stacked with good return guys, primarily Leon Washington on kick returns and Davone Bess on punt returns. We're pretty much unbeatable. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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09-08-2009, 07:51 PM	#4295
Chiefs=Champions Training Camp Hero Join Date: Oct 2006 Casino cash: $7974801	* EDIT NO.3: For rules purposes... Note: Starters in BOLD Note: Rookies have a * next to their names They include Nickle and Slot... Offense QB – Peyton Manning QB – Derek Anderson RB – Felix Jones RB – LenDale White RB – Mike Goodson* FB – Madison Hedgecock FB – Tony Fiammetta* LT – Joe Staley LG – Aaron Sears C – Alex Mack* RG – Mike Pollak RT – Eric Winston OG – Andrew Whitworth OT – Jamon Meredith* TE – Owen Daniels WR – Steve Smith WR – Michael Jenkins WR – Lance Moore WR – Jason Avant WR – Ramses Barden* WR – Derrick Williams* WR – Dwayne Jarrett WR – Muhsin Muhammad WR – Kenneth Moore Defense CB – Marcus Trufant CB – Nate Clements CB – Nathan Vasher CB – C.J. Wilson DE – Patrick Kerney DT – Albert Haynesworth DT – Marcus Stroud DE – Justin Tuck DT – Jovan Haye DE/DT – Calais Campbell DT – Nick Hayden DE – Lawrence Jackson DE – Charles Johnson DE – Tyler Brayton DE/OLB – Vernon Gholston ROLB – Lance Briggs MLB – David Harris LOLB – Brian Cushing* MLB – E.J. Henderson OLB – Justin Durant OLB – Na'il Diggs ILB – Dan Connor FS – Oshiomogho Atogwe FS – Charles Godfrey SS – Tyrell Johnson SS – James Butler Special Teams KR/PR – Danieal Manning P – Pat McAfee* K – John Kasay Practice Squad PS. – OG – Mackenzy Bernadeau PS. – K – Rhys Lloyd[/QUOTE] Last edited by Chiefs=Champions; 09-08-2009 at 08:01 PM..
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09-08-2009, 10:18 PM	#4296
cdcox www.nfl-forecast.com Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $-618231	I consider Greenville to be in the equivalent to the post-Herm Edwards era, but I think we match up pretty well against Bradenton, as long as some of my key players progress. Your power running game is going to crash on the rock of my nose tackle, Pat Sims. While not yet a household name among nose tackles, Sims (not that Sims!) is a real space eater that had the best initial campaign among the rookie DTs last year. He has a break out year this season and permanently clogs the middle of my defense. If he fails to develop in to the black hole I envision, you'll have your way running, but I'm counting on Pat. Justin Smith is also a very active run defender, racking up 70+ tackles per year from his RDE position. After Pat and company have engulfed your blockers, my active group of linebackers will smash your smashmouth. Jonathan Vilma, Takeo Spikes, and DJ Williams are all good for 90+ tackles per year. They'll be making contact at the LOS and arriving in numbers. This isn't going to leave many tackles for my head hunting strong safety Chris Harris, who has forced 10 fumbles over the last two seasons. That's okay, he'll take out his frustration and aggression on your smurfy little receivers. Better bring lots of stretchers. While Harris is smashing the short routes, Michael Griffin is roaming the deep secondary. Teams tested him during his rookie year and paid for it to the tune of 7 interceptions. My starting corners aren't great, but there is very little fall off from 1 to 4 (Will Allen, Andre Goodman, Jonathan Joseph and Tyvon Branch). I can match up very well in your 3 and 4 receiver packages. LOOK OUT HERE COMES CHRIS HARRIS AGAIN. Ha ha, your surfs all have alligator arms. If you get a chance to pass. I'm sending DE John Abraham and LB Greg Ellis (oh yes, I have not even mentioned these two yet!) from opposite sides of the field. Think Neil Smith and DT. Tremble. I also have depth on the DL to give enough rest to the stars so they'll have a 4th quarter burst. HERE COMES CHRIS HARRIS ON THE SAFETY BLITZ. <--Whoops, did you notice that I just sacked your QB? Oh yes, I know how how to disguise my blitzes. Now I have the ball. Chad Pennington starts the game and he comes out passing. Every play. I've got a couple of book end tackles in (future all world) Jason Smith and Jonathan Stinchcomb. Solid guard play from Justin Smiley and Chester Pitts. Hartwig can hold his own as center, but I actually think my best center is Leroy Harris, but I might have to wait a year to prove that. And I can use FB Le'Ron McClain in max protect schemes. Yeah your pass rush gets to Chad once in a while. Maybe more than once in a while. Maybe you knock him out of the game. Good. I don't really like him as my QB anyway. I've got stout David Garrard waiting in the wings. My QBs aren't great but I've got two of them. And by doing this, I wear down your pass rush to the point where your big guys have their hands on their hips and tongues hanging out by the 3rd quarter. I further wear your guys down (and keep drives alive) by mixing in a few reverses (Maclin and Hixon) and screens (DeAngelo Williams). Your big guys legs are jello. Pass rush neutralized. Oh yes. Sure you have two shut down corners, to take care of Welker (well maybe) and Hixon (another breakout player this season, wait and see). But who matches up with Dallas Clark, who plays like a 3rd wide out? Then I throw Jeremy Maclin into the mix and uh oh, who is going to cover him? Now you have tired pass rushers and a bunch of defensive backs in the game to guard my four 1000 yard receivers. Here comes DeAngelo Williams, running out of the single back set. Oh yes. Marauders 1-0.
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09-09-2009, 07:53 AM	#4297
Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $877229	Crested Butte-Holes ... starters are in bold. Overall, I think this is a stellar team with the lone question mark really being the durability and health of the QBs. Schaub is always a risk for injury, but I made the decision to trade away Cassel and I think it will prove to be a wise move, at least early on this season. Offensively, we have a lot of options... great pass catching WRs that love to rack up YAC and a stone cold stud at TE with Olsen. The ground game will be led by the punishing work of Jacobs, with Kevin Smith coming in for about 10 carries a game. And, while Hillis is not your 'stereotypical' FB... his well rounded game brings another dimension as he can be a RB and a great threat in the passing game, which should provide Schaub with a ton of opportunities. Speaking of keeping Schaub healthy, that Oline is pretty tight and it's up to them to keep him vertical and I see no real issues with them at this point. Defensively, Peppers gives us the ability to run a 4-3 or a 3-4 in the right situations. The DLINE has a lot of versatility and they should give the LBs a ton of opportunities to create turnovers. We have a lot of depth up front on the DLINE and with the LBs, the plan is to keep them fresh and healthy with a solid rotation throughout the game when needed. And, when they do pass... good luck having success against this secondary! Overall - I believe this is a fundamentally sound and well rounded team. And, as I scan the other rosters and look at the starters... there may be 2 teams that can stand toe to toe with this lineup on any given week. QB (3) Matt Schaub, QB Trent Edwards, QB `Brunell,Mark QB ACT NO CBH` WR/TE (8) Anquan Boldin, WR TJ Houshmandzadeh, WR Roy Williams, WR Jordy Nelson, WR Greg Olsen, TE Jeremy Shockey, TE `Dinkins,Darnell TE ACT NO CBH` `Woods,D'Juan WR RES NO CBH` RB (6) Brandon Jacobs, RB Kevin Smith, RB Peyton Hillis, FB Correll Buckhalter, RB `Bell,Mike RB ACT NO CBH` Jerious Norwood, RB/KR (listed primarily as KR - shown in both places) OL (11) Marcus McNeil, LT* Robert Gallery, LG Frank Omiyale, LT/LG Olin Kreutz, C Chris Myers, C Chris Kuper, RG Anthony Collins, RT `Leckey,Nick C ACT NO CBH` `Collins,Anthony T ACT CIN CBH` `Omiyale,Frank T ACT CHI CBH` `Bushrod,Jermon T ACT NO CBH` ST (3) Mason Crosby, K Brad Maynard, P Jerious Norwood, KR/RB DL (8) Julius Peppers, DE/OLB* Ray Edwards, LDE Kevin Williams, DT Tommy Kelly, DT Domata Peko, DT Darryl Tapp, RDE `Clancy,Kendrick NT ACT NO CBH` `Charleston, Jeff DE ACT NO CBH` LB (8) Kirk Morrison, ILB Zach Diles, OLB/SLB Curtis Lofton, MLB Gerald Hayes, MLB/ILB Akeem Jordan, OLB `Simoneau,Mark MLB RES NO CBH` `Dunbar,Jo-Lonn LB ACT NO CBH` `Evans,Troy LB ACT NO CBH` DB (6) Richard Marshall, CB Charles Tillman, CB Gibril Wilson, S Roman Harper, S Abram Elam, S `Torrence,Leigh DB ACT NO CBH Practice SquadNesbit,Jamar G ACT NO CBH` `Harper,Rod WR ACT NO CBH` __________________ Last edited by Mile High Mania; 09-09-2009 at 08:01 AM..
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09-09-2009, 07:17 PM	#4298
Fat Elvis Sexiest Athlete Join Date: Apr 2001 Casino cash: $-2088075	Fear the mighty Cleveland Steamers! Offense Quarterback: Drew Brees Josh Freeman Troy Smith Running Back: LaDanian Thomlinson Knowshon Moreno Jalen Parmele Wide Reciever: Randy Moss Terrell Owens Jared Cook Patrick Turner Kelly Washington Demetrius Williams Tight End: Chase Coffman LJ Smith Offensive Line: Chris Samuels Steve Hutchinson Andre Gurode Alan Faneca Flozell Adams Sebastian Vollmer Adam Terry Tony Moll TJ Lang Chris Chester Defense Defensive Line: John Henderson Shawn Rogers Ziggy Hood Dwan Edwards Sammie Lee Hill Justin Bannan Kelly Talavou Line Backers: Julian Peterson James Laurinaitis Dhani Jones Brian Orakpo Lawrence Sidbury Jason Williams Brendan Ayanbadejo Antwan Barnes Dannell Ellerbe Defensive Backs: Malcolm Jenkins Leigh Bodden Jarius Byrd William Moore Samari Rolle (PUP) Sherrod Martin Derek Cox Ladarius Webb Frank Walker Chris Carr Special Teams Kicker: Sebastian Janikowski Long Snapper: Matt Katula Punter: Is for pussies
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09-09-2009, 08:59 PM	#4299
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	The cobras play a hybrid d of the ravens and steelers. It is an agressive D which dares you to run on them. With the intense leadership of Ray Lewis and the intensity of Rey maualuga. The pass rush is lead by two of the best in the league in Terrell suggs and James Harrison. The young D back field has tons of talent. The offense is a shotgun offense running one TE one RB three WR. We throw deep short agressive in the passing game. Chris Johnson is dynamic and will add a lot of flash to this O. While disapointed bout the whole crabtree situation but we have faith we will eventually sign him. Mean while we feel confident in the future of Matt cassel and made a bold move to acquire him to back him up 2 vets who are willing to jump in case of injury or ineffictiveness. As I stated time and time again this is a team so special teams was built to be a factor as well. We have arguably the best KR in the game in Josh cribbs. The punter is the underated Donnie jones. With the best kicker in the game in rob bironas the special teams unit is one of the best in the league. The Glitz and Glamour of football returns to LA get ready cause it's gonna be a fun season.
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09-10-2009, 09:35 PM	#4300
cdcox www.nfl-forecast.com Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $-618231	Bunch of teams didn't finalize their rosters. So far tonight, Hartwig didn't play well, but Michael Griffin forced the game saving fumble against Holmes.
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09-11-2009, 10:29 AM	#4302
doomy3 Supporter Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $3123539	What happens with all these teams that didn't submit their final rosters? Have you sent them all a PM Rain Man?
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09-11-2009, 10:35 AM	#4303
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-722449 VARSITY	We need 'em to submit. I'm swamped at work right now; can someone tally up who's done and who's AWOL? I'll then send 'em a PM. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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09-11-2009, 12:04 PM	#4305
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	I know wrote the bironas comment b4 last night. I think it was opening night jitters but he looked awfull. I wish crabtree would just sign or sign and then trade him.
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