Chiefs Matt Cassel: Good or Bad? - Page 29

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 02-28-2009, 01:32 PM

We may as well have an easy point of reference for people to be able to come back and eat their crow when this all pans out. Everyone always says I knew it all along. Step up and put it down.

I don't think a 2nd round pick is terrible, but I don't think Matt Cassel will pan out in KC. I'll put it down right here, right now. And now I'll start praying I'm wrong.

Forget the trade. The only thing I want you to commit too is whether or not Cassel is a good or bad choice for QBOTF.

**DeezNutz** · 03-02-2009, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Well he did **** a skeleton.

He led the charge into that bony ass, completely impervious to the impending chaffing.

Mecca · 03-02-2009, 10:13 AM

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He led the charge into that bony ass, completely impervious to the impending chaffing.

I think he's a leader like Eric Hicks was a leader.

KC_Clipse · 03-02-2009, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Cassel at $15 mil achieved half of what Brady did with the same supporting cast.
Thigpen's stats were equivalent to Cassel's even though KC was ranked #31 in total offense in 2007 and NE was ranked #1 ALL TIME IN NFL HISTORY.
Cassel is being paid $15 million and Thigpen $400,000.

One of these QBs is a proven leader. One stepped into the perfect success story and qualified as average.

Where their stats equivalent? I dont think so. Not to mention hopefully you actually watched matt cassel play before saying this. The patriots o-line is way overrated, if you watched their games you seen that matt was constantly scrambling for his life, and it doesn't matter how good your receivers are if you cant put the ball in the right spots, cassel did that last year.

I dont know how many times i watched TT throw balls that weren't remotely close. Not to mention Cassel has more arm strength and accuracy, so in my opinion it is a big upgrade but maybe its the optimist in me.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-02-2009, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Complete nonsense.

There is nothing safe about Cassel. He's a boom or bust guy.

What I can't understand is how people that are against Cassel are for drafting Mark Sanchez?

What exactly do you not understand?

Tiger's Fan · 03-02-2009, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

We replaced a shitty underdog with a slightly above average underdog.

**The Bad Guy** · 03-02-2009, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

What exactly do you not understand?

What makes Sanchez a bonafide stud being a first round pick, and what makes Cassel a complete failure being basically a 2nd rounder.

Both have one year experience and both carry big time risks.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-02-2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

What makes Sanchez a bonafide stud being a first round pick, and what makes Cassel a complete failure being basically a 2nd rounder.

Both have one year experience and both carry big time risks.

Agreed.
Now that the local media has started it's Monday break downs, I'm hearing a lot of the opinion that several people here have expressed, that being "he's an improvement to be for sure, but is he a franchise quarterback for the long haul"?

And it's a valid question.

keg in kc · 03-02-2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Clipse

Where their stats equivalent?

Seriously?

Cassel had a QB rating of 89.4. Thigpen's was 76.0. Exactly the same.

Cassel completed more than 63% of his passes. Thigpen completed less than 55%. Identical.

Cassel averaged 7.2 yards per pass attempt. Thigpen averaged 6.1. Mirror images.

In the last two minutes of a half, Cassel had a 98.8 rating with 4 TDs and no picks. Thigpen had a 54.6 rating with 3 TD and 3 INT. Freaky.

Like twin brothers separated at birth.

Sully · 03-02-2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Who's dumb here?

Answer this question:
Should Kris Wilson have played tailback in 2007?

Then I'll get back to you.

htismaqe · 03-02-2009, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Agreed.
Now that the local media has started it's Monday break downs, I'm hearing a lot of the opinion that several people here have expressed, that being "he's an improvement to be for sure, but is he a franchise quarterback for the long haul"?

And it's a valid question.

Soren is the first I've heard to raise the question about how many sacks he took last year. That's my biggest concern.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-02-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Seriously?

Cassel had a QB rating of 89.4. Thigpen's was 76.0. Exactly the same.

Cassel completed more than 63% of his passes. Thigpen completed less than 55%. Identical.

Cassel averaged 7.2 yards per pass attempt. Thigpen averaged 6.1. Mirror images.

In the last two minutes of a half, Cassel had a 98.8 rating with 4 TDs and no picks. Thigpen had a 54.6 rating with 3 TD and 3 INT. Freaky.

Like twin brothers separated at birth.

Rep.

ChiefsCountry · 03-02-2009, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Soren is the first I've heard to raise the question about how many sacks he took last year. That's my biggest concern.

It was posted somewhere on here cant remember when.

htismaqe · 03-02-2009, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Rep.

Where's my rep? I posted the same thing an hour before he did.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-02-2009, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Where's my rep? I posted the same thing an hour before he did.

I haven't read the entire thread.

Johnny's incoherent ramblings had me bouncing around a bit.

But here, how about some "Welcome Back" rep?

**The Bad Guy** · 03-02-2009, 11:10 AM

The sacks don't really concern me.

He was basically starting for the first time since HS. Of course he's going to hold the ball too long sometimes. That comes with the territory.

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