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Old 07-15-2015, 09:59 AM  
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Chiefs LB Justin Houston's new 6-year, $101 million deal also is second richest deal in NFL history behind only NdamukongSuh's.

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Old 07-16-2015, 10:23 AM   #421
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Wow. Take a look at this article regarding a 'fair' deal for a Houston extension:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...ton-and-chiefs

That's damn near identical to what the Chiefs actually did. KC tacked an extra year on the end that both helps Houston's agents say they got Watt money while also spreading the signing bonus number out a bit more, but otherwise it's virtually a carbon copy of what the Chiefs ended up signing Houston to.

It really is all a show. This sure looks like the end game was pretty apparent from the start.
an agent's point of view has nothing to do with fair
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Old 07-16-2015, 10:28 AM   #422
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I would like to see KC win that division.


This should be our year. But if PM adds one more playoff meltdown on his resume before he retires-so be it. I hope it is us that knocks them out of the playoffs this year.

It would be sweet to finally get revenge and end his career with a loss to us.
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Old 07-16-2015, 10:32 AM   #423
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an agent's point of view has nothing to do with fair
An agent is going to know more about a player's market value than you or I ever will. Hell, he's going to know more about a player's market value than a GM will because the GM is prohibited by the CBA from calling around to find out - it's collusion.

An agent is going to know a hell of a lot more about the market value for a player than anyone else you could talk to.
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Old 07-16-2015, 10:53 AM   #424
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So, are people actually upset that we signed Houston?
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Old 07-16-2015, 11:03 AM   #425
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So, are people actually upset that we signed Houston?
i think blackbob is the only one
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Old 07-16-2015, 11:04 AM   #426
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i think blackbob is the only one
Ah, ok
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Old 07-16-2015, 11:05 AM   #427
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So, are people actually upset that we signed Houston?
I feel so badly for him.
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Old 07-16-2015, 11:05 AM   #428
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Hmmm. On the surface, I don't like that. I'd prefer to eat more cap this season while we appear to be pretty loaded and ready to make a run.

If his cap hit is minimal this year, it's just going to jack it up in future years and I'd prefer not to see multiple $20+ million cap hits like the Suh deal.

Whatever. Dorsey has earned the benefit of the doubt for the most part. If true, though, we're certainly going to make a run for someone/several someones. If we structured it like that to just sit on the cap space I'll break some shit.
I was thinking the same but you do now have the ability to carry over cap from the previous year so that might also be worth considering. Then we need to think about the other players we'll want to sign to long term deals, like Poe, etc. Maybe they'll start working on getting some of those done early. They should.
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Old 07-16-2015, 11:14 AM   #429
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Someone explain this "rolling cap over to next year" thing, please..
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Old 07-16-2015, 11:22 AM   #430
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Old 07-16-2015, 11:23 AM   #432
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Someone explain this "rolling cap over to next year" thing, please..
If you don't spend it, it carries over into the following year.

So if the Chiefs don't spend $8 million of this year's cap and next year's 'base' cap is $150 million, the Chiefs would actually have a cap of $158 million.
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So, are people actually upset that we signed Houston?
Only the biggest of the big dip$#its...
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Only the biggest of the big dip$#its...
It's one of those "If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him" kind of things.

No, nobody worth mentioning is upset about the Houston signing. However, it's CP. Whenever everyone's happy, nobody has anything to say. So we have to just assume that a fair number of people are unhappy so we can call them idiots.

Maybe he blows out his knee tomorrow and never takes the field again. If so, shit happens. This is a fair deal for a great player and there's just no reason to be upset about it.

Fortunately, nobody really is.
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It's one of those "If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him" kind of things.

No, nobody worth mentioning is upset about the Houston signing. However, it's CP. Whenever everyone's happy, nobody has anything to say. So we have to just assume that a fair number of people are unhappy so we can call them idiots.
You, a few weeks ago, made a point of pegging me as one of those people.

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