Let's talk about the Cleveland Browns (Divisional Round)

[TLO]

A little surprised, but not THAT surprised.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Ever since I saw Lenny the cool to Otis Taylor and that defense.... I was hooked. Even when we sucked for DECADES. I couldn't switch teams. I have no idea how you can do that. I wished I could have done that in the 80's.

The best thing is to not always believe everything you read, and to always consider the source. The only accurate part he got, was that i am insane. Ill own that one.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Mav

The best thing is to not always believe everything you read, and to always consider the source. The only accurate part he got, was that i am insane. Ill own that one.

I'm the source, numbnuts.

You're an Alex Smith fan girl. Everybody knows it, so own it.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Browns33
Browns can run the ball. If we shorten the game by pounding Chubb and Hunt and a couple tipped passes go our way you never know. Chiefs haven’t been dominate for a number of weeks and Denver almost took you down this way. Should be a great game guys!
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Can you name me a team that successfully ran the ball and beat the Chiefs? This is a misconception.

Rush 4, get some pressure, play 7 in coverage. Thats called great defense, not a recipe to beat the Chiefs. San Fran did it the best its ever been done to us and they still lost by double digits.

They are not dominate because they are bored with winning or something. They can turn it up to 100% at any time. Then, no one can touch them.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I'm the source, numbnuts.

You're an Alex Smith fan girl. Everybody knows it, so own it.

I said what i said. Youre an irrational bitch who coat tails off of what other people say to make a point. You have zero factual info that i ever supported WFT, i didnt, and dont. So, i mean just with that being said, youre a walking piece of shit, and you wont get any more replies out of me. Be well sweet cheeks.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Mav

I said what i said. Youre an irrational bitch who coat tails off of what other people say to make a point. You have zero factual info that i ever supported WFT, i didnt, and dont. So, i mean just with that being said, youre a walking piece of shit, and you wont get any more replies out of me. Be well sweet cheeks.

Exactly the response I expected. You know what you are, you just can't handle the truth.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven

I won't even disagree with you, but I will add that the Browns defense is in no way shape or form a good match anywhere for the Chiefs offense. They have never even seen anything close to what they are about to see. I expect a valiant effort from the Browns which will end in a predictable but respectable loss to the Chiefs.

The only hope they have is that Joe woods knows the Chiefs well. And he pulls a unicorn performance like Oakland and atlanta (Sutton). But I really doubt he can scheme around the lack of talent let alone Andy Reid having 3 weeks to plan for this game.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Ever since I saw Lenny the cool to Otis Taylor and that defense.... I was hooked. Even when we sucked for DECADES. I couldn't switch teams. I have no idea how you can do that. I wished I could have done that in the 80's.

So do we.



Oh shit, did I say that out loud?

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Browns33

Browns can run the ball. If we shorten the game by pounding Chubb and Hunt and a couple tipped passes go our way you never know. Chiefs haven’t been dominate for a number of weeks and Denver almost took you down this way. Should be a great game guys!

Hey, another Browns troll! Hiya, Browns Troll!

Now, EAT AN AIDS PIE AND DIE.

Or something like that. That means "hello" to trolls here in CP.

Anyway, relying on T/Os is probably not really a recipe for success. Patrick isn't Big Ben. He isn't going to give you multiple tipped passes/INTs and a bunch of short fields. If you're really, really, really lucky he might give you one.

Maybe.

And while Chubb and Hunt might be able to go off, Spags probably isn't going to allow that to happen. Spags and the KC defense has put the brakes on the best rushing attacks in the NFL over the last two seasons, most particularly in the playoffs, so it's unlikely the game will be decided by the CLE running attack.

The most critical piece of this game will be how the Browns' defense matches up with KC's offense. And there's just no contest there. Your best player is Garrett, but he doesn't have a complementary DL player to take some of the attention with Vernon gone, and your best CB (D. Ward) is returning from a bout with COVD.

Even if he were healthy and had never gotten the bug, let's be brutally honest: he was never going to be good enough to stop Hill. Or Watkins 1v1. So safety help over the top vs. Hill, and then how to defend Kelce.

Again, CLE doesn't have anyone that's going to single up on Kelce, so it has to be some kind of double. But CLE doesn't have any LBs or Ss that are going to cover Travis, and Kelce is the king of beating doubles. So good luck with that.

But the reality is that after committing 4 players to stop those two, CLE still has to stop Watkins, who is a master of beating man/zone both, D. Robinson, who's a big, fast, physical receiver, and Hardman, and there's simply no CLE DBs that can cover those guys.

And we haven't even gotten to how CLE stops our running game. Or our passing game to our RBs.

The truth is, the last time KC faced a defense about on the same level as CLE's, was the Jets, and we hung 35 on them before the end of 3rd quarter, and simply stopped trying to score.

Once CLE puts together a respectable defense, and Stefanski finds another legit WR threat, CLE will be a solid contender. I've even bet another CPer that next season the Browns will win 10+ games and I think I bet that they'll go to the playoffs again next season.

But this is not CLE's year. You're a couple years early.

But welcome to the playoffs. It's been a very long time coming, and most of us are happy for your team and Browns' fans.

Now, drink AIDS piss, or something.

EDIT: Sorry, sorry. That was supposed to be 'drink aids anti-freeze.' my bad.

[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Hey, another Browns troll! Hiya, Browns Troll!

Now, EAT AN AIDS PIE AND DIE.

Or something like that. That means "hello" to trolls here in CP.

Anyway, relying on T/Os is probably not really a recipe for success. Patrick isn't Big Ben. He isn't going to give you multiple tipped passes/INTs and a bunch of short fields. If you're really, really, really lucky he might give you one.

Maybe.

And while Chubb and Hunt might be able to go off, Spags probably isn't going to allow that to happen. Spags and the KC defense has put the brakes on the best rushing attacks in the NFL over the last two seasons, most particularly in the playoffs, so it's unlikely the game will be decided by the CLE running attack.

The most critical piece of this game will be how the Browns' defense matches up with KC's offense. And there's just no contest there. Your best player is Garrett, but he doesn't have a complementary DL player to take some of the attention with Vernon gone, and your best CB (D. Ward) is returning from a bout with COVD.

Even if he were healthy and had never gotten the bug, let's be brutally honest: he was never going to be good enough to stop Hill. Or Watkins 1v1. So safety help over the top vs. Hill, and then how to defend Kelce.

Again, CLE doesn't have anyone that's going to single up on Kelce, so it has to be some kind of double. But CLE doesn't have any LBs or Ss that are going to cover Travis, and Kelce is the king of beating doubles. So good luck with that.

But the reality is that after committing 4 players to stop those two, CLE still has to stop Watkins, who is a master of beating man/zone both, D. Robinson, who's a big, fast, physical receiver, and Hardman, and there's simply no CLE DBs that can cover those guys.

And we haven't even gotten to how CLE stops our running game. Or our passing game to our RBs.

The truth is, the last time KC faced a defense about on the same level as CLE's, was the Jets, and we hung 35 on them before the end of 3rd quarter, and simply stopped trying to score.

Once CLE puts together a respectable defense, and Stefanski finds another legit WR threat, CLE will be a solid contender. I've even bet another CPer that nest season the Browns will win 10+ games and I think I bet that they'll go to the playoffs again next season.

But this is not CLE's year. You're a couple years early.

But welcome to the playoffs. It's been a very long time coming, and most of us are happy for your team and Browns' fans.

Now, drink AIDS piss, or something.

EDIT: Sorry, sorry. That was supposed to be 'drink aids anti-freeze.' my bad.

It's "now drink anti-freeze and die in an aids fire". You need to get your CP signature shit talking statement correct

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Hey, another Browns troll! Hiya, Browns Troll!

Browns33 doesn't seem like a troll coming over to start shit. Did I miss something?

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Browns33 doesn't seem like a troll coming over to start shit. Did I miss something?

One can't be too careful.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Hey, another Browns troll! Hiya, Browns Troll!

Now, EAT AN AIDS PIE AND DIE.

Or something like that. That means "hello" to trolls here in CP.

Anyway, relying on T/Os is probably not really a recipe for success. Patrick isn't Big Ben. He isn't going to give you multiple tipped passes/INTs and a bunch of short fields. If you're really, really, really lucky he might give you one.

Maybe.

And while Chubb and Hunt might be able to go off, Spags probably isn't going to allow that to happen. Spags and the KC defense has put the brakes on the best rushing attacks in the NFL over the last two seasons, most particularly in the playoffs, so it's unlikely the game will be decided by the CLE running attack.

The most critical piece of this game will be how the Browns' defense matches up with KC's offense. And there's just no contest there. Your best player is Garrett, but he doesn't have a complementary DL player to take some of the attention with Vernon gone, and your best CB (D. Ward) is returning from a bout with COVD.

Even if he were healthy and had never gotten the bug, let's be brutally honest: he was never going to be good enough to stop Hill. Or Watkins 1v1. So safety help over the top vs. Hill, and then how to defend Kelce.

Again, CLE doesn't have anyone that's going to single up on Kelce, so it has to be some kind of double. But CLE doesn't have any LBs or Ss that are going to cover Travis, and Kelce is the king of beating doubles. So good luck with that.

But the reality is that after committing 4 players to stop those two, CLE still has to stop Watkins, who is a master of beating man/zone both, D. Robinson, who's a big, fast, physical receiver, and Hardman, and there's simply no CLE DBs that can cover those guys.

And we haven't even gotten to how CLE stops our running game. Or our passing game to our RBs.

The truth is, the last time KC faced a defense about on the same level as CLE's, was the Jets, and we hung 35 on them before the end of 3rd quarter, and simply stopped trying to score.

Once CLE puts together a respectable defense, and Stefanski finds another legit WR threat, CLE will be a solid contender. I've even bet another CPer that nest season the Browns will win 10+ games and I think I bet that they'll go to the playoffs again next season.

But this is not CLE's year. You're a couple years early.

But welcome to the playoffs. It's been a very long time coming, and most of us are happy for your team and Browns' fans.

Now, drink AIDS piss, or something.

EDIT: Sorry, sorry. That was supposed to be 'drink aids anti-freeze.' my bad.

With the exception of the one part i put in red, i agree with absolutely everything you said, but if healthy, Ward locks down Watkins. Hes that good. And Watkins today gave bulletin board material to the Browns. He will be a target, for better or worse. Still wont matter. As you stated, too many weapons. They will prioritize keeping Hill from beating over the top, and everything will be open over the middle. The run game im not all that worried about, as Andy Reid loves to attack weaknesses, or rather Mahomes does, and you guys know Terrence Mitchell as well as anyone. And i promise you, mark this right here. Any time you need a first down, Mahomes will target where ever Sendejo is, he is that bad. Great post however. Now, excuse me, im gonna go drink some aids piss, anti freeze, kill myself and play in traffic.

[Deberg_1990]

Bakers Mayfelds playing scary good. With confidence

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Mav

With the exception of the one part i put in red, i agree with absolutely everything you said, but if healthy, Ward locks down Watkins. Hes that good. And Watkins today gave bulletin board material to the Browns. He will be a target, for better or worse. Still wont matter. As you stated, too many weapons. They will prioritize keeping Hill from beating over the top, and everything will be open over the middle. The run game im not all that worried about, as Andy Reid loves to attack weaknesses, or rather Mahomes does, and you guys know Terrence Mitchell as well as anyone. And i promise you, mark this right here. Any time you need a first down, Mahomes will target where ever Sendejo is, he is that bad. Great post however. Now, excuse me, im gonna go drink some aids piss, anti freeze, kill myself and play in traffic.

FYI, that Tweet from Watkins was in the FIRST quarter of the game. He was almost certainly just stating that the game wasn't over and that Pittsburgh could still win.

He wasn't dissing Cleveland at all.

As for the rest of your post, you really think they'll put Ward on Watkins 1-on-1? Are they just going to bracket Hill with whatever they have left?

Seems like a really bad strategy to me, especially with Sendejo back there, but maybe I'm missing something. Can you elaborate?

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Bakers Mayfelds playing scary good. With confidence

He absolutely is. Nice to see you Deberg, but the Browns are not winning a shoot out with Mahomes. I have seen quite a bit that the Chiefs arent concerned with stopping the running game. The Browns really havent been able to run the ball dominantly since the Titans game, and Baker has pretty much carried the offense for the past 6 weeks minus the Jets game where he lost his top 4 receivers 24 hours before the game, and the jets had 9 guys in the box all game. I expect Baker to play well, but keeping Mahomes under 400 yards and 5 tds is not gonna happen.