***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[GloucesterChief]

Originally Posted by arrowheadnation

Why don't we copy whatever China did to head this off? They only had 14 new cases yesterday (12 of which were from people returning home form other countries), and their last pop-up hospital dedicated to COVID-19 closed today due to low demand. Shanghai Disneyland has begun the process of re-opening (currently opened in a limited capacity) They were by far the worst off. And they did it without buying enough toilet paper to last them til 2025. This can be done.

I don't believe China's numbers and you shouldn't either.

[Shiver Me Timbers]

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https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2020/...re/5056092002/

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Monticore

There can be a natural rise in body temp as day progresses. 1 % degree C, up to 37.5 , not sure in how that translate int F. Just checked up to 99.5. So cooler in morning higher late afternoon

Currently sitting at a comfortable 97.6 after relaxing for a while. Would say the spike earlier was stress/anxiety. Or just normal fluctuation.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by TLO

Currently sitting at a comfortable 97.6 after relaxing for a while. Would say the spike earlier was stress/anxiety. Or just normal fluctuation.

Unless you were sitting on a curling iron , most likely fluctuation it is not abnormal unless it starts going over 99.5

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Spott

Lol. I’ve worked with a lot of older people that still don’t even know how to send an email, much less use any apps. My Dad is 76 and he’s the same way. He still has a flip phone and I’ve never seen him cook anything. Unfortunately, boomers have a reputation for being stubborn and not being the most receptive to keeping up with new technology.

You know I don't really know what to say to this. There are going to be people that don't survive because they cannot get out of their own way. Adapt and overcome or.......
Not to seem crass and uncaring but, if you are going to be dumb you better be tough.

[FloridaMan88]

Time for perspective...

Approximately .000009% of the total US population currently has a confirmed case of COVID-19.

Of that tiny %, 80% will have minimal to no symptoms.

65 people have died from COVID-19... .00000017% of the population, which means you are more likely to die in America from a lightening strike.

I am all for a measured (keyword: MEASURED) response to combating COVID-19, but that ship has sailed when you start closing restaurants, banning gatherings, etc.

This response is the equivalent of banning all vehicles/driving to eliminate deaths/injuries from auto accidents.

A key to effective public policy and good governance is measured and reasonable actions that will encourage adherence.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by TLO

I'm going to talk to my therapist tomorrow.

Are you a "certain" fan that no one likes that you posted a lot about right before the SB?

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Time for perspective...

Approximately .000009% of the total US population currently has a confirmed case of COVID-19.

Of that tiny %, 80% will have minimal to no symptoms.

65 people have died from COVID-19... .00000017% of the population, which means you are more likely to die in America from a lightening strike.

I am all for a measured (keyword: MEASURED) response to combating COVID-19, but that ship has sailed when you start closing restaurants, banning gatherings, etc.

This response is the equivalent of banning all vehicles/driving to eliminate deaths/injuries from accidents.

A key to effective public policy and good governance is measured and reasonable actions that will encourage adherence.

Do you think the low death rate of lightning related deaths has something to do with people avoiding lightning

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by backinblack

The Jack in the Box drive thru up the road is probably going to become a more popular place for me for a while, provided the damn thing stays open.

Man looking at potentially two months of this crap...

Learn to cook.

[arrowheadnation]

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by TLO

Suzzer... I like you. You seem like a good person. But your doom and gloom is growing tiresome.

Dude then maybe you should remove yourself from this thread. Just saying.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by cdcox

Are you willing to have a government lock applied to the door of your home?

Are you willing to be placed in a metal box and hauled off to quarantine?

Are you willing to be chased down by drones if you leave your house?

No thanks for me.

On top of what you say about the totalitarian behavior of the Chinese government towards the citizens, I think that government is also lying about the case numbers...both total cases and deaths. Probably 2-3x higher for each category.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Exactly. If you're looking for a feel good thread you've came to the wrong place.

Suzzer was born scared.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ken...241218011.html


Government official: Coronavirus vaccine trial starts Monday

Did you see where it was going to be up to 20 months before the vaccine would be readily available nationwide?

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Dude then maybe you should remove yourself from this thread. Just saying.

Suzzer makes Debbie Downer look like a motivational speaker. Maybe u should remove yourself if you can’t handle people having an opinion