***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Donger

Let's see your numbers.

For ****s sake

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

They didn't say they were overwhelmed...yet. They just are warning that they are seeing increased hospitalizations and don't want it to happen.

Hospitals are far from being overwhelmed. We have increased hospitalizations but we are in no danger if running out of any kind of beds at all.

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[Donger]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

For ****s sake

Asking for proof is funny?

[kgrund]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Hospitals are far from being overwhelmed. We have increased hospitalizations but we are in no danger if running out of any kind of beds at all.

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Do we even have that? Johnson County numbers show a small spike in July and has been going down at a fairly fast rate ever since. I just do not see much going on at all with hospitalizations from the information they provide.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by kgrund

I get that, but his quote suggests they have been swamped when the tracking for the entire County would suggest that has not been the case.

Originally Posted by petegz28

Hospitals are far from being overwhelmed. We have increased hospitalizations but we are in no danger if running out of any kind of beds at all.

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Looks like they are at about 32% ICU beds and close to the warning zone. Total beds looks ok.

https://web.mhanet.com/coronavirus-d...ashboards.aspx

[kgrund]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Looks like they are at about 32% ICU beds and close to the warning zone. Total beds looks ok.

https://web.mhanet.com/coronavirus-d...ashboards.aspx

I was speaking specifically about Johnson County on the Kansas side, but thanks for the information. It at least speaks to the situation on the Missouri side of the metro.

[Strongside]

Originally Posted by Donger

Let's see your numbers.

Certainly not trying to insert myself (ayooo) into this conversation, but here's some background on that.

Under-18s have accounted for just two percent of hospitalized COVID-19 cases and less than 0.1 percent of all deaths in the United States, according to statistics from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

A total of 45 children died from the coronavirus in the United States between February 1 and August 1—compared to 105 who died from seasonal flu—out of a total of 13,000 children who died of all of causes over the period.

When they do catch the virus, children are far less likely than adults to fall seriously ill.

An informative study of 2,143 confirmed or suspected cases of coronavirus among children in China found 94 percent of cases were asymptomatic, mild or moderate.

Those children who do fall ill often have underlying conditions. A study found all 10 pediatric patients who were hospitalized in Chicago in March and April with COVID-19 had either pre-existing conditions or co-infections.

The bottom line here is that children get sick and die from COVID-19 far less often than adults do, though that does not mean they are immune.

It's worth emphasizing that given that children are more prone to severe cases of flu, it wasn't obvious at the start of the pandemic that children would be less susceptible to COVID-19.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by kgrund

I was speaking specifically about Johnson County on the Kansas side, but thanks for the information. It at least speaks to the situation on the Missouri side of the metro.

Here you go

https://experience.arcgis.com/experi.../page/page_28/

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Strongside

Certainly not trying to insert myself (ayooo) into this conversation, but here's some background on that.

Yes. I've read that about 90 children have died from COVID-19 so far.

[phisherman]

Originally Posted by Donger

Yes. I've read that about 90 children have died from COVID-19 so far.

Let's see your numbers. Ha!

[Donger]

Originally Posted by phisherman

Let's see your numbers. Ha!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/11/healt...ess/index.html

[O.city]

Just FYI, the Moderna vaccine has been under development since 2003 and the original Sars outbreak. So there you go, 17 years.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by O.city

Just FYI, the Moderna vaccine has been under development since 2003 and the original Sars outbreak. So there you go, 17 years.

Now they'll take it!

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Looks like they are at about 32% ICU beds and close to the warning zone. Total beds looks ok.



https://web.mhanet.com/coronavirus-d...ashboards.aspx

There is no concern over icu beds for covid at the moment. Trust me.

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[TLO]

Very anecdotal report, but this is from a family member of someone who "died of covid" in our community.

I could not be more disappointed with things right now. I just read a news artical that stated from the Health department talking about a loved one of ours cause of death was from Covid-19, this is not in any way factual because no one truly knows and nor will we ever know.

I want people to understand, Was our family member diagnosed with Covid? Yes. But she had mild symptoms and was not deathly sick. She had other underlying medical issues. Please let our family and her friends grieve in peace and not make our tragic loss, your statistic.

Saying that, thank you to everyone who has called and checked in on the family.