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Old 01-05-2017, 10:39 AM  
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Chiefs Run Defense: Better than you thought
Below is a nice statistical article that really defines the Chiefs run defense and why it seems that even when it is playing poorly, the world doesn't fall apart. Pretty great stuff, and it somewhat kills the narrative that the Chiefs are a 'bad' run defense.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2017/1...e-inconsistent

Essentially, the summary of the OP's study is that even though the Chiefs don't get a lot of stuffs, they also are among the best in the league at preventing long running plays. They bend with the 5 yard runs, but do not break with 10+ yarders hardly ever. Good read and if you get the chance, take a look.
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Old 01-05-2017, 12:21 PM   #31
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Excuses. We've been gashed ALL season. Part scheme, part poor tackiling.
Not making excuses. I wonder why opponents are not sticking with the run to just grind away the game. Is there more than meets the eye?
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Old 01-05-2017, 12:29 PM   #32
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Horse shit

when we don't commit extra resources to stop the run we get gashed.
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Nickel/Dime personnel are on the field to match what the Offense is showing, not to "prevent big gains". If they steelers are showing posse/311 personnel, you want to match with nickel/dime. The problem is when you have 6 in the box, vs the offenses 6. Unless someone beats their block, offense has the advantage. Bring a safety down or in the alley, make it 7 vs their 6 and you have the numbers advantage. This is the chess match part of football. You don't want to put base personnel on the field vs 3 or 4 WR sets.

DJ was very good at beating his block and getting to his gap assignment, which was why they could stop the run and still keep 2 safeties high.
Wow, some real football knowledge here, thanks.
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I was a huge fan of the potential of Alexander but our run D is complete shit now, and for most of the season.

It's ****ing terrible up the gut...
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Nickel/Dime personnel are on the field to match what the Offense is showing, not to "prevent big gains". If they steelers are showing posse/311 personnel, you want to match with nickel/dime. The problem is when you have 6 in the box, vs the offenses 6. Unless someone beats their block, offense has the advantage. Bring a safety down or in the alley, make it 7 vs their 6 and you have the numbers advantage. This is the chess match part of football. You don't want to put base personnel on the field vs 3 or 4 WR sets.

DJ was very good at beating his block and getting to his gap assignment, which was why they could stop the run and still keep 2 safeties high.
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DJ was very good at beating his block and getting to his gap assignment, which was why they could stop the run and still keep 2 safeties high.
DJ was good at everything.

His position was no tip off to the what the defense was presenting...
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I'm sure we will stuff Bell all day.
I'm guessing this is sarcasm.

Bell is going to assrape us.
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I'm guessing this is sarcasm.

Bell is going to assrape us.
No lube
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Ranked 24th of 32 teams isn't something to be overly excited or proud about.
It's not? CP told me a 24th passing offense lead by magnificent Alex Smith is not something the Chiefs should try to improve upon. We shouldn't try to improve on our run defense, either.
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Read this yesterday and just dont care what numbers he crunches up, I trust my eyes to tell me that our run defense is poor

At the same time, I still like Sutton and his defensive philosophy most of the time... the run D failings this year have more to do with personnel than scheme

We'll get some new ILBs soon and things will improve
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I'm guessing this is sarcasm.

Bell is going to assrape us.
He will.

HE WILL.

It's important to get red zone turnovers...
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They may not give away 10+ yard runs that often....but opposing offenses probably love the constant 8 and 9 yard runs they give up.

Can you imagine what Leveon Bell is going to do to this D?
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They may not give away 10+ yard runs that often....but opposing offenses probably love the constant 8 and 9 yard runs they give up.

Can you imagine what Leveon Bell is going to do to this D?
He didn't even score a touchdown when KC played them earlier this season. He basically sucks
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I'm guessing this is sarcasm.

Bell is going to assrape us.
Here's my rambling, and its similar to what Giant Meatball already stated about the combination of scheme & solid tackling. The Chiefs get some awesome gap penetration by the interior line, mostly cant finish the tackle. Sometimes forcing the RB to cut back or try to bounce outside, and the 'pile' ends up moving forward for 2-3 yards. pretty typical. what I get angry with is the inside linebackers, namely Ramik, meeting backs in the gap but tackling WAY TOO HIGH and getting driven (free ride) downfield for 5-6 yards. Swarming/gang tackling can help, or you can bring someone else down into the box. Problem with that, is you now show Big Ben 1 high safety, and just gave a pre-snap read of cover 1/3. Yes, you can still drop the box safety back, but there is no way he is rotating deep to help. I don't really mind this, as I'd rather have him try to throw deep, over Bell gashing us and owning time of possession. KC got murdered last time off of double moves and blown coverages. I don't think that will happen again. Those are low probability throws, as long as they dont get beat off a double move, or assisted via pass interference, they should be ok. With a healthy pass rush (JH, TH, DF), they can drop 7 back will give anyone a hard time throwing the rock.
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