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Old 01-08-2018, 08:49 PM  
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Andy Reid may not be right coach for Chiefs

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KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Andy Reid was hailed as a hero shortly after joining the Kansas City Chiefs as head coach in 2013, and why not? Reid took a team that had been the worst in the league the year before, and not only won his first nine games but guided the Chiefs into the playoffs.

Reid's star barely dimmed in Kansas City as he took the Chiefs to the playoffs in each of the past three seasons. He even won a playoff game two years ago, the Chiefs' first postseason victory in 22 years.

The free pass for Reid should be over now.

Reid guided Kansas City in Saturday's 22-21 playoff loss to the Tennessee Titans at Arrowhead Stadium. The Chiefs led by 18 points at halftime and collapsed after that.

This makes Reid 1-4 with the Chiefs in the playoffs, and the latest defeat was not the first big blown lead of the bunch. The Chiefs had the Colts down 38-10 in the third quarter in the playoffs after the 2013 season and they lost that one, too.

Reid's two blown leads of 18 points or more in the playoffs are as many as every other coach in the NFL since 1933.

This latest loss stings more than the one against the Colts. That one was bad, but at least it happened on the road and in Reid's first season, with a team that was not yet complete in his image.

This time the Chiefs wasted a big playoff lead at home. They did it with a team that was supposedly built not just to get into the playoffs but advance in them.

Quarterback Alex Smith acknowledged afterward that the 2017 Chiefs underachieved, and it's hard to argue with him on that point.

Beyond the blown leads, Reid is costing the Chiefs in the playoffs in other ways. His game management has been a problem at times in the postseason. The Chiefs were deliberate offensively despite being down by two touchdowns in the fourth quarter of a game in New England two years ago. They eventually scored a touchdown but took so much time in doing so they had no choice but to try an onside kick to keep the ball.

With the Patriots aware it was coming, the tactic failed and the Chiefs lost.

Trailing the Titans by a point with two minutes to go in the fourth quarter, the Chiefs tried to convert on fourth-and-9 from the Tennessee 44 with all three timeouts remaining. Smith's pass for Albert Wilson was incomplete and the Chiefs were doomed, never to get the ball back.

It's important to remember here how bad the Chiefs were when Reid arrived. They were a forlorn franchise that won no more than four games in four of the six previous seasons. They were barely competitive in each of their two playoff games before his arrival.

He was hired to provide some much-needed stability and Reid has accomplished that. The Chiefs have made the playoffs in four of his five seasons. They've won back-to-back division titles for the first time in franchise history.

That counts for something. But its meaning loses impact when the Chiefs continually can't budge beyond their opening playoff game. They did that once, two years ago against a dismal opponent in the Houston Texans.

Reid at this juncture looks like a coach who is good enough to get the Chiefs to the playoffs but not beyond. That's why they have to take a moment or two to ponder whether he's still the right guy for the job.
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Old 01-09-2018, 08:40 AM   #31
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Lol says the guy who’s team won a SB with Gary ****ing Kubiak and got to another with John Fox.
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Old 01-09-2018, 08:40 AM   #32
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If this shit happens again next year Clark needs to fire the fat ****.
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Old 01-09-2018, 08:41 AM   #33
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Number 2 will never happen under Andy.
If 2 doesn't happen, #1 won't happen.
There isnt a qb alive that can get past Andy and his terrible game management and play calling ability.
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If Mahomes stumbles we are truly ****ed.
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If this shit happens again next year Clark needs to fire the fat ****.
staylor26 would disagree and say he needs more time, talent or something. A few worse coaches than Reid have taken teams to and even won a SB, so in time Andy will.
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The same problems plague Andy coached teams for the last decade. He's lucky he ended up in a small market atmosphere where ownership, fans and media are extremely patient and always optimistic.
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If this shit happens again next year Clark needs to fire the fat ****.
This is pretty much where I'm at with this franchise and Andy Reid. But Clark needs to force a few things first. Reid needs to find an OC and let him call the plays all season and in the playoffs. Smith needs to be gone. Sutton needs to be gone.
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The same problems plague Andy coached teams for the last decade. He's lucky he ended up in a small market atmosphere where ownership, fans and media are extremely patient and always optimistic.
Andy Reid without Jim Johnson in the postseason: 1-6
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If 2 doesn't happen, #1 won't happen.
There isnt a qb alive that can get past Andy and his terrible game management and play calling ability.
My only hope is that Mahomes will more consistently push the ball down the field. I think he'll provide us with more positives and more negatives.

More deep/big plays but at the same time more turnovers.

Andy has a great offensive mind and knows how to draw up plays. Knowing what to call and when on game day though he's terrible. Just terrible...
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Lol says the guy who’s team won a SB with Gary ****ing Kubiak and got to another with John Fox.
And this, again, is why I say it's really all about QB play.

Coaches get you to the postseason. QBs get you through the postseason.

That's why Tony Dungy has a ring and Marty doesn't.
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And this, again, is why I say it's really all about QB play.

Coaches get you to the postseason. QBs get you through the postseason.

That's why Tony Dungy has a ring and Marty doesn't.
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Holy shit. Per Sam Mellinger on the border patrol yesterday...

Since 2001, Andy Reid has won 1 playoff game as a betting underdog and has lost 7 playoff games as a betting favorite.

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My only hope is that Mahomes will more consistently push the ball down the field. I think he'll provide us with more positives and more negatives.

More deep/big plays but at the same time more turnovers.

Andy has a great offensive mind and knows how to draw up plays. Knowing what to call and when on game day though he's terrible. Just terrible...
The Chiefs offense disproved the notion that Andy is some dink and dunk head coach who doesn't believe in going down the field this year.

It was already complete ****ing bullshit, simply based on his offenses in Philly, but people wanted to lie to themselves because of Alex bla bla bla.

The point of Mahomes isn't going to be pushing the ball down the field more. That was going to happen no matter who our next QB was. The point will be the ad-libbing in clutch situations, the creation of offense outside the construct of what Reid draws up. That's the element we've always lacked.
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staylor26 would disagree and say he needs more time, talent or something. A few worse coaches than Reid have taken teams to and even won a SB, so in time Andy will.
I’m not exactly thrilled with Reid, but anybody that thinks there’s no way he can win a SB with an elite QB is ****ing reeruned.

If Mahomes reaches his ceiling, he will be by far the best QB Reid has ever had, and that will certainly lead to more success than he’s had with the ****ing cuck in KC.

I don’t look at HC’s in this black and white way that most people do. If McNabb wasn’t a ****ing pussy, Reid wins a SB and everybody looks at him completely different. Just look at Tomlin, since he got handed a SB roster he’s done nothing but fail in the playoffs despite having an elite QB yet nobody is saying he can’t win a SB.

It’s just a silly way of looking at HC’s. Any good coach can win a SB with the right team/QB and a little bit of luck.
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Not really. Draft another and start over.
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