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02-21-2019, 07:29 PM | #31 | |
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He's a good player, and if your docs give his back a thumbs up, he's a smarter bet if you need to win now than a draftee. IF his run defense doesn't scare you. |
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02-21-2019, 07:31 PM | #32 | |
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Just speculation. which, actually, is all I've seen about Houston refusing to rework his deal; although I wouldn't doubt it if he doesn't want to take less money. Still, you could maybe move some of it to a signing bonus or something. |
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02-21-2019, 07:32 PM | #33 |
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02-21-2019, 07:36 PM | #34 | |
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Right now he doesn't have much guaranteed new money left. So paying off that demand isn't that unreasonable. |
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02-21-2019, 07:38 PM | #35 | |
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I have no issues with any posturing right now; both sides are going to play hardball, it's just business. I'm sure Houston's agent has figured out what we did, that it's cheaper to keep him at his current cap number than it is to cut him and pay Dee Ford. |
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02-21-2019, 07:42 PM | #36 |
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I can’t find a definitive answer. From what I can find, Pats took dead money for Cassel but I can’t find anything saying we took dead money for doing the same thing with Allen. I feel like it’s very unlikely teams don’t take a penalty for doing this though, or it would be far more common.
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02-21-2019, 07:44 PM | #37 | |
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I'm guessing we're working on the OP which responds to reports that the Chiefs will keep one or the other. Seems a lot more smoke around the Chiefs favoring keeping Ford, and cutting Houston. Between the reports that the Chiefs are willing to cut Houston & the reports that Houston won't restructure... can't imagine that smoke happens without the Chiefs putting a restructure ultimatum in front of him. |
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02-21-2019, 07:47 PM | #38 | |
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If you're tagging a player, you are committed to paying him that tag number and have to do so or cut him outright. But there's no dead cap, because there's no cap number other than the one year deal you've committed to. If you're able to trade that player, cool, the new team is taking the player and his tag number. They can renegotiate immediately if they want, extend the player and whatever, and that's up to them. the original team is off the hook. there's no penalty because the tag is a penalty in and of itself: it's an expensive one year contract. If you tag him and nobody wants him, you either have to remove the tag and let him walk for nothing, or pay him the $16 m or so. But, he'd be last year's most effective pass rusher to hit the market; someone with cap room and need will bite. |
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02-21-2019, 07:49 PM | #39 | |
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Well this right here says the patriots didn't have any dead money on cassel https://overthecap.com/player/matt-cassel/1993/
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And they use the reasoning that releasing Houston almost breaks even on Ford's deal.
But trading Ford almost breaks you even on your savings from cutting Houston and a high pick or 2 |
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I'm in the no Houston or Ford camp - I don't care if anyone disagrees - my opinion won't waver.
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02-21-2019, 07:56 PM | #45 | |
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(Wiki) In the National Football League (NFL), the franchise tag is a designation a team may apply to a player scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent. The tag binds the player to the team for one year if certain conditions are met. Each team only has one franchise tag (of either the exclusive or non-exclusive forms) and one transition tag per year. The transition tag can only be used if the team does not use a franchise tag. Perhaps originally designed to reduce player movement to bigger markets, which is often evidenced in the other major pro sports leagues, the NFL revenue sharing and a hard salary cap have placed teams on an even playing field relative to salaries. The tag options allow NFL franchises an extended bargaining period for a player that they feel is key to their success. Usually reserved for players of great skill or of high importance to the team, a franchise tag allows a team's general manager the privilege of strategically retaining valuable free-agent players while seeking talent through the NFL draft or other acquisitions without exceeding the League's salary cap. The designated franchise player will have his one-year salary guaranteed if he elects to play for the team that designated him with the franchise tag and if he does not negotiate a contract with another team.-end Wiki I know that you can rescind the tag at a certain point, I don't what date that is or what it entails but I'm seeing nothing in researching about any 'penalty'. |
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