Chiefs Brown or Fish? - Page 3

bricks · 10-25-2021, 08:23 AM

I thought I’d pose this question for the Chiefs left tackle position because I’m curious to know your opinions and how you feel who is the better player for the Chiefs when comparing those two players.

I’m disappointed in Orlando Brown so far. He hasn’t been playing up to expectations. No way is he an elite left tackle at least I say this for now because of the way he is playing. Some games he is getting beat like crazy.

Fisher on the other hand, when he was with us was a solid player. I don’t consider Fishers performance to be that of a #1 overall pick like Orlando Pace and he never will be that guy. Yeah he got beat a good handful of games but overall generally speaking he was solid.

What say you? Is there much of a difference between Fishers play in the past compared to Orlando Browns play today? Which performance was better Fisher past performance at LT or Orlando Browns play at LT right now? I don’t know
if I see much of a difference and so I thought I’d ask.

Maybe Fish’s performance in the past might be better?

bringbackmarty · 10-25-2021, 11:39 AM

Brown is one and done. Square peg round hole. His feet look like he's wearing cement blocks for shoes. They knew he would struggle hence the lack of an extension. Hell, he even admitted that he doesn't have the best footwork and relies on his arms/upper body too much. We move him to right tackle and he plays well, then ask him to stay there next season? - He probably walks unless we pay him left tackle money which is stupid.

ChiefsCountry · 10-25-2021, 12:09 PM

Yesterday we could have Anthony Munoz in and it wouldn't have mattered when you are down that much and have to pass every play. Pass rush when that is all you have to do on the D Line is the easiest thing in the world for D Lineman and rush backers.

**loochy** · 10-25-2021, 12:15 PM

What LT talent will be available in the middle positions of the next draft? I assume we'll pick in the 9-20 range.

Fish · 10-25-2021, 01:03 PM

How is this not a sex thread?

oldman · 10-25-2021, 01:23 PM

Fisher was underrated and Brown is not Fisher. Brown maybe could be Schwartz. He's just not nimble enough to be a LT. Considering we had zero point shit in the way of starting tackles at the end of last season, he was the best option available (see the teenage spluge-fest in the 1st few pages of his orriginal thread). As far as "valuable draft capital", trading the #31 pick for that additional 2nd rounder looks pretty good right now. Would we have taken either Bolton or Creed at #31? Naw, we would have had WR #217 there.

tredadda · 10-25-2021, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 65TPT

Brown has pedigree. He will grow into the job.

Wasn't his father a career RT though?

Sofa King · 10-25-2021, 01:26 PM

PFF is never ever wrong.

Brown:70.9
Fisher: 58.6

Sofa King · 10-25-2021, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

First thing I'd do is ask him to drop 30 lbs. No way he should be playing at 380.

Exactly. This seems to be a huge part of the problem.

Sofa King · 10-25-2021, 01:31 PM

Brown: 502 snaps, 4 penalties, 3 sacks
Fisher: 366 snaps, 6 penalties, 4 sacks

Titty Meat · 10-25-2021, 01:33 PM

Look at our record when Fish started with Mahomes

/thread

tredadda · 10-25-2021, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King

Brown: 502 snaps, 4 penalties, 3 sacks
Fisher: 366 snaps, 6 penalties, 4 sacks

I think DJLN nailed it perfectly. Brown, as he is right now, is a better choice than Fisher as he is right now. We can't compare him with a pre injury Fisher, as that ship sailed in the AFCCG.

tredadda · 10-25-2021, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Look at our record when Fish started with Mahomes

/thread

That's also with pre Achilles Fisher though.

oldman · 10-25-2021, 01:37 PM

The "official" site shows him at 363, which is still too fat in my book. If he wants to be a Chief next year, he'll have to play RT and take RT money. Otherwise, buh-bye and don't expect any other team to beat down your door after watching more than 30 minutres of film at LT.

Sofa King · 10-25-2021, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Look at our record when Fish started with Mahomes

/thread

Good point. Since you’re living in the past, look how many more sacks we had with Derrick Thomas! Our record was better too.

Titty Meat · 10-25-2021, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King

Good point. Since you’re living in the past, look how many more sacks we had with Derrick Thomas! Our record was better too.

No it wasn't

10-25-2021, 08:23 AM
bricks Hey Teacher! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: land of maple syrup Casino cash: $9902559	Brown or Fish? I thought I’d pose this question for the Chiefs left tackle position because I’m curious to know your opinions and how you feel who is the better player for the Chiefs when comparing those two players. I’m disappointed in Orlando Brown so far. He hasn’t been playing up to expectations. No way is he an elite left tackle at least I say this for now because of the way he is playing. Some games he is getting beat like crazy. Fisher on the other hand, when he was with us was a solid player. I don’t consider Fishers performance to be that of a #1 overall pick like Orlando Pace and he never will be that guy. Yeah he got beat a good handful of games but overall generally speaking he was solid. What say you? Is there much of a difference between Fishers play in the past compared to Orlando Browns play today? Which performance was better Fisher past performance at LT or Orlando Browns play at LT right now? I don’t know if I see much of a difference and so I thought I’d ask. Maybe Fish’s performance in the past might be better?
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10-25-2021, 11:39 AM	#31
bringbackmarty Gonna go back in time.... Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $2665510	Brown is one and done. Square peg round hole. His feet look like he's wearing cement blocks for shoes. They knew he would struggle hence the lack of an extension. Hell, he even admitted that he doesn't have the best footwork and relies on his arms/upper body too much. We move him to right tackle and he plays well, then ask him to stay there next season? - He probably walks unless we pay him left tackle money which is stupid. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/The-Pheasan...6018120266009/
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10-25-2021, 12:09 PM	#32
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $1818752	Yesterday we could have Anthony Munoz in and it wouldn't have mattered when you are down that much and have to pass every play. Pass rush when that is all you have to do on the D Line is the easiest thing in the world for D Lineman and rush backers.
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10-25-2021, 12:15 PM	#33
loochy Hey Loochy, I'm hooome! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: PooPooKaKaPeePeeShire Casino cash: $1640752	What LT talent will be available in the middle positions of the next draft? I assume we'll pick in the 9-20 range. __________________ Hey Loochy, I'm hoooome!
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10-25-2021, 01:03 PM	#34
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10-25-2021, 01:23 PM	#35
oldman Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North by Northwest Casino cash: $5836784	Fisher was underrated and Brown is not Fisher. Brown maybe could be Schwartz. He's just not nimble enough to be a LT. Considering we had zero point shit in the way of starting tackles at the end of last season, he was the best option available (see the teenage spluge-fest in the 1st few pages of his orriginal thread). As far as "valuable draft capital", trading the #31 pick for that additional 2nd rounder looks pretty good right now. Would we have taken either Bolton or Creed at #31? Naw, we would have had WR #217 there.
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10-25-2021, 01:26 PM	#37
Sofa King Hello Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Dakota Casino cash: $592096 VARSITY	PFF is never ever wrong. Brown:70.9 Fisher: 58.6
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10-25-2021, 01:31 PM	#39
Sofa King Hello Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Dakota Casino cash: $592096 VARSITY	Brown: 502 snaps, 4 penalties, 3 sacks Fisher: 366 snaps, 6 penalties, 4 sacks
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10-25-2021, 01:33 PM	#40
Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $1777558	Look at our record when Fish started with Mahomes /thread
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10-25-2021, 01:37 PM	#43
oldman Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North by Northwest Casino cash: $5836784	The "official" site shows him at 363, which is still too fat in my book. If he wants to be a Chief next year, he'll have to play RT and take RT money. Otherwise, buh-bye and don't expect any other team to beat down your door after watching more than 30 minutres of film at LT.
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