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Old 12-07-2008, 06:00 PM  
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IS it time for Herm to bring in a Special Asst Redzone Coordinator?
Is it time for Herm to bring in some one like Jimmy Raye or Paul Hackett to help this team with the Redzone? We just cant seem to get the job done inside the 20's....
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Old 12-07-2008, 06:51 PM   #31
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Damn you Dane, drinking Beer and reading your posts are not advisable at the same time...

TOP 10 redzone offense? Did we get a new coach... I think you are over estimating the value of TD's and seriously under estimating the value of FG's..

Damn it, Now I have beer all over... God I hate you sometimes...
Uh, I'm pretty sure I saw a stat during the game that said we were in the top half of the league (#13 IIRC) in TD % in the Red Zone - even with the shitpile on the right side of our line.
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Old 12-07-2008, 08:34 PM   #32
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redzone O was bad.... we don't get a deep TD pass. we can't get it in endzone. Thiggy's draw might work in college not NFL.
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Old 12-07-2008, 09:15 PM   #33
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I was beginning to wonder if it wouldn't hurt for the Chiefs to consider bringing in some kind of a goal line back.

I have never been overly impressed with the way LJ runs in these situations. I'd like to have a real bowling ball in these situations. I remember Priest Holmes used to practically jump over everyone's heads. Doesn't it seem like LJ has half the vertical Priest does?

That's not a knock on LJ. I just don't think goal line running is one of his strengths.
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Old 12-07-2008, 09:32 PM   #34
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Our red-zone offense sucks because we're running the spread and we can't run the ball.
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Old 12-07-2008, 09:35 PM   #35
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Our red-zone offense sucks because we're running the spread and we can't run the ball.
Maybe it is time for Herm to break out the old school Buttsechs offense inside the 5 yard line...
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Old 12-07-2008, 10:06 PM   #36
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I was beginning to wonder if it wouldn't hurt for the Chiefs to consider bringing in some kind of a goal line back.

I have never been overly impressed with the way LJ runs in these situations. I'd like to have a real bowling ball in these situations. I remember Priest Holmes used to practically jump over everyone's heads. Doesn't it seem like LJ has half the vertical Priest does?

That's not a knock on LJ. I just don't think goal line running is one of his strengths.
Re-watch some of those "jumps" into the endzone by Priest. More often than not, he had Roaf setting an initial block for him and T. Richardson submarining a guy infront of him.

So I agree with Dane's point to a certain extent, the redzone really magnifies you're O-lines ability; or lack there of.

However, when looking at a 1st and goal outside the 5, I have a real problem calling a dink pass, an uncatchable fade route, and 2 QB sneaks.
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Old 12-07-2008, 10:09 PM   #37
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Our red-zone offense sucks because we're running the spread and we can't run the ball.
The spread has been good for this team because it let's us get away from our O-line. It takes alot of pressure off that weak link of the team.

But when we get down inside the red zone, the pressure and responsibility is reassumed by the O-line and that glaring weakness rears it's ugly head.
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Old 12-07-2008, 10:25 PM   #38
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Damn you Dane, drinking Beer and reading your posts are not advisable at the same time...

TOP 10 redzone offense? Did we get a new coach... I think you are over estimating the value of TD's and seriously under estimating the value of FG's..

Damn it, Now I have beer all over... God I hate you sometimes...
Sorry, Bro.

I owe you a brew.
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Old 12-08-2008, 12:12 PM   #39
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Sorry, Bro.

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Old 12-08-2008, 01:15 PM   #40
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i just don't think spread offenses work as well in the tighter space of the red zone...

we need to figure out a) how to run and b) whether or not we want Thigpen under center in the red zone...he did it twice on that last drive and threw two terrible passes...

there are still questions about the viability of the pistol long term, imo....

Well consider defenses know we are going to throw the fade route it is kind of hard to convert.. I mean, we literally do not change anything up, we have like four plays we run in there.. I think the opposing defenses have caught on..
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Old 12-09-2008, 11:42 AM   #41
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Time to man up and get this guy in here....

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Old 12-09-2008, 11:43 AM   #42
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I hate those ****ing fades..they never ****ing work
they worked up until we got rid of our duel threat TE this off season....






Damn Vikings!
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they worked up until we got rid of our duel threat TE this off season....






Damn Vikings!
well Gonzo, Cottam in TE sets would work. I don't get it.
we can't run to right in RedZone it hasn't worked.
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i got an idea, stop throwing the fade, it works about 1/8th of the time.
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