Chiefs Former GM Michael Lombardi on the Chiefs - Page 3

B_Ambuehl · 12-21-2009, 02:25 PM

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I know the Chiefs are bad on defense, but they were not this bad last year. For all the changes in K.C., things have gotten worse, much worse – on both sides of the ball. If there’s been progress toward a brighter future, I’m not seeing it.

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'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-21-2009, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

My dad was a season ticket holder throughout the '70s. He wouldn't have dreamed of saying that to a coach. people weren't like that then.

I'm decrying the lack of civility we have today, where it is not only considered acceptable, but applauded. I find that offensive. Sorry if I'm old fashioned.

By supporting a guy giving a customer the finger.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-21-2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Absolutely, I'm asking for civility. He started it, he should not cry like a little girl if he gets a negative reaction. Apparently he can dish it out but he can't take it.

And I'm not defending anyone, I'm criticizing George for acting childish.

Proof positive that you're a mouth-breathing moron

Crush · 12-21-2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

My dad was a season ticket holder throughout the '70s. He wouldn't have dreamed of saying that to a coach. people weren't like that then.

I'm decrying the lack of civility we have today, where it is not only considered acceptable, but applauded. I find that offensive. Sorry if I'm old fashioned.

"You deserve to be fired" is not a derogatory comment, it is the truth.

**morphius** · 12-21-2009, 06:21 PM

Just to put it out there I just ran the numbers, our oppenents averaged 27.5 point against us last year, this year they average 27.35714...

Seems we haven't went anywhere, and as a note we gave up 54 points to the struggling Bills team last year.

RickObie · 12-21-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

My dad was a season ticket holder throughout the '70s. He wouldn't have dreamed of saying that to a coach. people weren't like that then.

I'm decrying the lack of civility we have today, where it is not only considered acceptable, but applauded. I find that offensive. Sorry if I'm old fashioned.

Is it OK to boo at games? I figure if I can't tell the coach he deserves to be fired, that I can't boo the team when they drop passes, etc. It may hurt there feelings!

By the way your not just old fashioned, you're wrong!

splatbass · 12-21-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

By supporting a guy giving a customer the finger.

I already said I wasn't defending Haley. I'm against the incivility we have today in every aspect of life from football to politics. But I wouldn't expect you to understand. You throw out more unprovoked insults than anyone here.

Brock · 12-21-2009, 06:32 PM

There's nothing uncivil about telling a guy he deserves to be fired, especially if it's true.

TheGuardian · 12-21-2009, 06:32 PM

Wow it's almost like people forgot how bad this team was last year and how they mailed it in with weeks left in the season.

I'm not saying a bunch of progress has been made, but regressed from last year? Uh no. If this team had actually regressed we wouldn't have won a single game. Last years team was that bad too. I think people get too involved in the present sometimes to accurately judge the past.

I don't think there has been MUCH progress made, but the offensive line looks to be rounding into shape now. I think really if it continues we could go into the offseason just needing an upgrade at center and possibly right guard. Not sure what to do about Waters, but either way, it's not as big a pressing need as it was last year. So there is progress.

Dorsey is light years a better player. Carr and Flowers both continued to build on good rookie seasons, Charles is obviously going to be our feature back, we just need a compliment to him for 8-10 carries a game. Cottam, every time he's been given a chance has made the most of it, should be our starting TE. Albert has worked his way out of his early funk.

The areas that need addressing are really the entire linebacking corps outside of Hali. I honestly think that Belcher and Studebaker are the only two guys outside of Hali worth keeping. Both are good special teamers and Belcher can play inside or outside. We also need a true nose tackle and at least one starting safety.

And mainly, we need to hire an offensive coordinator and replace Pendergast. I think if all of those changes happen this offseason we could easily be a 8-10 team win team next season. Some may laugh, but quick turn arounds aren't difficult anymore. A true nose tackle and two stud inside backers with a great safety would turn the defense around practically overnight (granted with a new coordinator).

Oh and we need some receivers obviously but I mainly got off on the defense.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-21-2009, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

By supporting a guy giving a customer the finger.

Brilliant, isn't it?

LaChapelle · 12-21-2009, 06:46 PM

Both got humbled
fine

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-21-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LaChapelle

Both got humbled
fine

I sincerely doubt that.

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-21-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Would you walk up to someone you work with and say "You deserve to be fired"? I wouldn't. It is rude and uncivil.

I agree with this, but GB is a customer, not a co-worker. Haley is a cockbag for doing that. Haley is the one being unprofessional. He should have just ignored it like he would tell his players to do...

RustShack · 12-21-2009, 06:50 PM

I like how fast people can forget what happened just a year ago. No one should have expected a quick turnaround when you completely change everything.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-21-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

I like how fast people can forget what happened just a year ago. No one should have expected a quick turnaround when you completely change everything.

For the eleventy-billionth time:

People (at least rational ones) weren't expecting a Miami/Atlanta-like turnaround.

They did, however, expect this team to get better as the season went on, and to see some progress made over last year.

It really wouldn't have taken that much to meet or exceed these expectations, and they still failed miserably.

We've basically spent an entire season to learn two things.

One, Charles is starter material. Granted, we can thank LJ for that, not the coaching staff - but we found out nonetheless.

And second, we found out that the new regime can bring in 45 new players, and replace exactly half of the starting 22 with their handpicked players, and only win one more game than last year, while playing an easier schedule.

Knob · 12-21-2009, 06:55 PM

Herm flipped off the fans numerous times and whitlock was ok with it.

12-21-2009, 06:21 PM	#34
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12-21-2009, 06:32 PM	#37
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12-21-2009, 06:32 PM	#38
TheGuardian MVP Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $8235299	Wow it's almost like people forgot how bad this team was last year and how they mailed it in with weeks left in the season. I'm not saying a bunch of progress has been made, but regressed from last year? Uh no. If this team had actually regressed we wouldn't have won a single game. Last years team was that bad too. I think people get too involved in the present sometimes to accurately judge the past. I don't think there has been MUCH progress made, but the offensive line looks to be rounding into shape now. I think really if it continues we could go into the offseason just needing an upgrade at center and possibly right guard. Not sure what to do about Waters, but either way, it's not as big a pressing need as it was last year. So there is progress. Dorsey is light years a better player. Carr and Flowers both continued to build on good rookie seasons, Charles is obviously going to be our feature back, we just need a compliment to him for 8-10 carries a game. Cottam, every time he's been given a chance has made the most of it, should be our starting TE. Albert has worked his way out of his early funk. The areas that need addressing are really the entire linebacking corps outside of Hali. I honestly think that Belcher and Studebaker are the only two guys outside of Hali worth keeping. Both are good special teamers and Belcher can play inside or outside. We also need a true nose tackle and at least one starting safety. And mainly, we need to hire an offensive coordinator and replace Pendergast. I think if all of those changes happen this offseason we could easily be a 8-10 team win team next season. Some may laugh, but quick turn arounds aren't difficult anymore. A true nose tackle and two stud inside backers with a great safety would turn the defense around practically overnight (granted with a new coordinator). Oh and we need some receivers obviously but I mainly got off on the defense.
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LaChapelle Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	Both got humbled fine
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