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The same group of people that told Mahomes he'd be a third rounder, FWIW. And yeah, he's probably in the top 5 safeties. That doesn't make him a 1st rounder. |
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Yeah, I think the value for those "big box safeties" are pretty much gone these days. They're essentially small linebackers that can cover.
As we saw last year with DOD, those aren't the most difficult thing to find. If i'm taking a safety that high, i'm looking for one that can cover and make plays on the ball first. |
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For sure. Like I said, his workouts will end up determining that. As will Hooker's. Both of them are probably median 3rd round picks with 2nd round upside if they workout well.
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I will say that if you get a nice solid safety there, i'd take him in the 2nd.
It would be a bit like the Morse pick was a few years ago for me. Kinda "what the ****" when they took him then he ends up being a nice solid player. |
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It would be like taking a road grader of a guard with that pick. Sure, 5 years ago you take a solid starting guard who's excellent in the running game but has limitations in space with a 2nd and consider it a win if he's a solid every down player for 4 years. But now I think the priorities are reversed there and if you're gonna lean on a single strength, it can't be the ground game in the 2nd round. You just have to be a lot more comfortable with his range than I am there. To my eyes, the guy you're describing that I'd be annoyed about in real time but likely ultimately accepting of would be Hooker. If he turns into a 'solid player' he'll be a solid coverage safety with some deficiencies in the box. Okay, it's not perfect but with a late 2nd it's good enough.
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Look at San Diego this year. The problem is that at some point, you've gotta be able to do the other thing, whichever that is. Like you, i'd prefer to have a guy that may have to come up and tackle everyonce in a while but is really good in the secondary than the alternative. |
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I could play strong safety alongside Derwin James. Addae is a nice player, but he gets graded on a curve when the Chargers have a guy like James that can play single high OR get down in the box. He's what Berry was for the 7 or 8 games that Berry played over the course of his career where he was completely healthy. And Berry covered for a lot of issues on the other side of him. I just don't think your best safety can be a box safety type. That's what the Giants try to in building their secondary around Collins and I just don't think it works all that well for them. An elite rangy safety can do a lot to make up for the shortcomings of a very good box safety but I don't think there's nearly as strong an inverse relationship there. I don't think that knife cuts both ways.
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I want range in my safeties. That's why I want Adderley. After that, I'm not seeing much that really satisfies that. There's a lot of bigger hitters in this draft but not a lot of quality coverage guys, IMO. |
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Yeah, having that "HOF" type safety back there makes a big difference. Which is why the Chiefs are about to sign Earl Thomas in a few weeks. |
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