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Cubs acquire Rich Harden
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/0...kaplan-of.html
Cubs Acquire Rich Harden and Chad Gaudin By Tim Dierkes [July 8 at 5:25pm CST] 5:36pm: The Cubs' press release is out. The Cubs get Harden and Chad Gaudin for Gallagher, Murton, Patterson, and catching prospect Josh Donaldson. Jim Hendry did his best to counter the Brewers' acquisition of CC Sabathia. The A's get three MLB-ready players plus a solid offense-oriented catching prospect Harden, 26, has been dominant in 13 starts for the A's this year. The injury-prone Harden is a tantalizing player; he's only topped 130 innings once but has a career ERA of 3.42. The latest concern: decreased velocity/dead arm in his last start. Harden has a $7MM club option for '09, which is highly likely to be exercised. Last edited by Sure-Oz; 07-08-2008 at 04:50 PM.. |
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Cubs didn't give up shit except for a possible solid starter
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Not necessarly. The best player they gave up was Gallagher, and he projects to be a solid 3/4 starter in MLB level.
Murton, 26, is hitting .250/.286/.300 with no home runs and a .198 EqA in 19 games. At Iowa this season, he batted .298/.397/.382 with one homer and a translated .243 EqA in 54 games. Patterson, 25, was hitting .320/.358/.517 with six home runs and a translated .269 EqA in 52 games at Iowa. In a stint with the Cubs this season, he batted .237/.318/.342 with one homer and a .238 EqA in 13 games. And for Donaldson, he's a A player, and more than likely he wouldn't see the MLB level as a Cub, since the Cubs have Soto, and also Welington Castillo turning into a good player at AA, his loss isn't a very significant one.
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Even if he's on the field as little as Nomar Garciaparra was, it's still a good move. It gives the Cubs a legit chance just to have him in their control. Harden could start 20 more times and throw 20 shutouts and it doesn't guarantee anything. This is a good deal. The Cubs gave up some talent, but nobody that had a clear cut spot in the near future.
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Your point about the "no clear-cut future role" for the guys who were traded is pretty much spot-on. Their upside seems to be: Gallager -> Solid rotation guy, but not a star Murton -> Nice bat off the bench (due to defensive ineptitude) E-Pat -> Utility guy, maybe a half-decent starter at some point Donaldson -> Offensive catcher (but again, he's only ~3 years younger than Soto, who's OPSing .902 with 15 home runs this year) Gaudin's a really solid bullpen arm who's locked up for a long time, and Harden's a guy who can be an ace if he's healthy and has a team option for next year. Nice trade for all involved.
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You're correct about that Geo is 25, and not to mention that he works very well with our pitching staff. So I think the Cubs have finally found their COTF (Catcher of the Future). Gaudin is a very interesting player. Two years ago, he was a starter for the A's and posted a 1.530 WHIP. Not great, but not exactly horrible. He'd make a nice 5th starter for the Cubs, if they somehow can get rid of Marquis. Here's the wildcard though. Rich Hill.
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ok this isn't a gasol-for-kwami brown-type steal.. but the cubs didn't give up hardly anything. where is this "ton" of talent that you are seeing?
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If we're talking wildcards, I think Angel Guzman is higher on that list than Hill.
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Hill also featured his new delivery, and it looks like he may actually have found the cure for his version of Steve Blass Disease. He no longer tilts his shoulder and head back to the extent he had been doing (a la Fernando Valenzuela), which allows him to keep his eyes on the catcher's target.
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Guzman is intruging as well, but his major injury prone really scares me. He makes Harden look like Maddux (health-wise) As for Hill, I wouldn't totally write him off this year yet, since he's still on the 40 man roster and there is the September call-ups. If he dominates in September (Like Soto did the year before) the Cubs would be foolish to not include him in the playoff roster.
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As a Grizzlies fan, I'm not too upset about that deal, since it's positioned the team to make a big addition next summer (Boozer pls kthx) after accumulating a really talented backcourt and some nice frontcourt prospects in Arthur and Gasol (plus Warrick, who could be a valuable trade piece).
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i'm just saying that the cardinals have been banking on the cubs/brewers/astros to eat shit when it matters for too long now. if they don't make a move, they won't make the playoffs. Last edited by SPATCH; 07-08-2008 at 06:50 PM.. Reason: clarity |
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