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11-12-2018, 09:03 PM | #31 | |
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Maybe I'm being too cautious and not aggressive enough, but I really want this to be a 6-8 year wide open window and the only way to do that is with a lean cap and some rollover when your young guys approach their second contracts. So with that in mind, total amount likely to be paid means way more to me than structure. Every dollar I save in year 1 is a dollar I can add to the next season cap as a credit.
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11-13-2018, 10:30 AM | #32 |
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So I've got a crazy idea on how we could get a corner. It's gonna take some imagination so hear me out. ….
The Jags are imploding from within. Like, Hindenburg just explosion of that locker room. Fighting, crazy shit. Their star CB is making twitter posts about how they'll miss him when he's gone etc etc. DUde is obviously a bit nuts but he can play. You know, Jalen ramsey? So, the Chiefs first rounder is probably gonna be at the later part of the first. We've seen what it takes to get a disgruntled CB on a rookie deal with Peters. I'll sweeten the pot and say, "How about my first this year and my 3rd next year to get rid of that headcase and fix your locker room"? Boom. |
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11-13-2018, 11:23 AM | #33 |
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Just be aware that dude is going to want to be PAID. And can he co-exist in a locker room that’s got Mahomes as the leader?
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11-13-2018, 11:36 AM | #34 | |
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In my scenario, you'd have him for his 4th and 5th year option, you could franchise him a year then when it's time to pay Pat, you let him walk. Win. |
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11-13-2018, 01:17 PM | #35 | |
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If you have 11 above average players on your defense - sure, go nuts and splurge on a better CB. But if you have 9 above average players and 2 sub-standard ones, NFL OC's are going to find those 2 and pick them apart. Go ahead and add Ramsey but if you're still rolling guys like Parker out there or when it inevitably costs you draft capital and salary space and weakens other parts of the defense, they're just gonna find those holes. Rasmey's 5th year option as a top 10 pick is gonna be in the $13 million range so let's not act like he's not gonna be plenty expensive even on the 5th year tag. I just don't see a sufficient ROI w/ these big money CBs.
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11-13-2018, 01:41 PM | #36 | |
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I understand your concern, but I still think that you have to have stars on D. I also think a reason we feel these lockdown corners are overpaid luxury items is that we don't have very many that are truly lockdown. Ramsey really is when his head is on straight. |
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11-13-2018, 05:25 PM | #37 |
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Pass rusher OT That’s the top of your list for the first rd. I agree that corners are a luxury, especially if you have a good pass rush. I want a pass rush like we have this year as often as we can.
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11-13-2018, 10:41 PM | #38 |
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I still would like us to draft in the lower rounds fast tall wr who cant catch and turn into cbs. With todays wr there needs to be a switch of philosphy.
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11-14-2018, 12:28 AM | #39 | |
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Fact is, nobody at any position except QB affects a material amount of plays to pay for top line talent (or at least top line salary). It comes back to production per unit salary cap and I just don't see paying market leading dollars at the positions that aren't QB. Not to say I want all rookies and vet minimum contracts out here, but if you look at the top 5 or so at each position there are very few of them that you could objectively say are worth it. |
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Look at what the Cardinals strafing Fisher and Schwartz did to our offense in the 2nd half. If pass rushers are worth paying, then the guys that slow them down are worth paying as well. QB LT RT Edge WR Obviously a generational talent at other positions like Donald at DT or even someone like Keuchly at MLB could be worth it as well, but Andy's 'shell' concept has never been more accurate than it is today.
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So here's a theory.
Steven Nelson is about to hit free agency in 2019. Chiefs are on the phone, and they're offering 3 years at 8m/year or whatever. Nelson's agent tells him a couple teams will offer him 11m/year. Nelson is a supremely confident guy but he can't ignore the Marcus Peters situation, can he? Peters' lack of system fit and worse coaching than what he had in Kansas City has probably now cost him tens of millions of dollars on his next contract. Any chance Nelson looks at that and thinks to himself he could make more money long term by staying a Chief? Sure he loses about $9m total, comparing a 3 year/$8m per year deal to a 3 year/$11m per year deal another team might offer him. But! He'd almost certainly have a shot at a real money contract in 2022, whereas if his play fell off on another team with worse coaching, his big money contract days may be over. Anybody else think that's a real possibility? I need BossChief in here; this feels like a very BossChief theory. |
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I think you have to choose between him and Fuller and I’d MUCH rather extend Fuller.
Draft or sign some corners for cheap. You’ve got Smith and Ward developing on the 53 already. |
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11-26-2018, 12:37 PM | #45 |
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I'm pretty sure Fuller will be resigned but not Nelson.
Nelson has definitly been good this year but he will cost too much for a guy you don't know if he will always give you great play. Fuller is a guy I trust to be consistently good, not Nelson. |
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