Life Carmax seems overpriced - do you haggle them? - Page 3

**TinyEvel** · 09-30-2019, 01:06 PM

Jut started looking for a third family car the teens can drive and ding up.

Looking at 2008 Honda civic 4-door with around 100,000 miles.

There's a few on craigslist from private parties and independent dealers for around $6,000. Car max wants $9,999 for a very similar/same car with similar options.

Their "no haggle price." I thought they were supposed to be a good deal.

What gives?

suzzer99 · 09-30-2019, 06:24 PM

I thought I knew what I was doing when I got my FJ Cruiser. I haggled them down to $27,500 (it was the end of the first model year and gas prices had just spiked so there was a glut).

But then they took me in the little room and I cracked. I'd never bought a new car before. Didn't know about the little room. I left everything I had out there on the floor haggling with the salesman then the manager.

They got me for $500 for "turning on" the damn alarm system and another $700 for bullshit supplemental insurance to cover the difference between the amount my insurance will pay and amount owed if I wreck it in the first couple years. I balked at the insurance and the dude actually said "Is money a little tight?" And it basically worked. Hell no money's not tight. I'll show you! I AM AN IDIOT.

If I ever buy another new car I know to agree on the price "out the door", and threaten to walk out when they try to add more in the little room. ****ing little room.

Hamwallet · 09-30-2019, 08:11 PM

I guess I am not a baller that gets taken back to rooms. Every deal at Carmax is on the floor from my experience. As for the extra fees. I also call BS.

jerryaldini · 09-30-2019, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TinyEvel

Jut started looking for a third family car the teens can drive and ding up.

Looking at 2008 Honda civic 4-door with around 100,000 miles.

There's a few on craigslist from private parties and independent dealers for around $6,000. Car max wants $9,999 for a very similar/same car with similar options.

Their "no haggle price." I thought they were supposed to be a good deal.

What gives?

I got my daughter a 2012 Sentra with similar mileage for 6k from a used lot. I would only go to car max for a car with hard to find options I was looking for, and accept I was paying up to get what I want. Doesn't sound like the case for you.

scho63 · 10-01-2019, 06:51 AM

Carmax and Carvana are both way overpriced.

Autotrader sucks as they are really just ads and not a good way to find a deal.
Carmax has terrible listings.

The 3 best are:
1. Carfax
2. True Cars
3. Cars.com

I have found the best way to buy a used vehicle is to look for DIFFERENT dealer or dealership than the brand you are looking for.

As an example: If you want a FORD, try to find the car you want at a Toyota, Hyundai, GM or other because their speciality isn't Fords and someone traded in that vehicle to change brands. You'll get the best deal there.

Also EVERYONE always thinks they got a great buy on a used car and are the best negotiators.

When did anyone every walk out of a car dealer thinking they were had?

sedated · 10-01-2019, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

****ing little room.

Lol, the last time I said no to all the extra bullshit in the little room, I thought the guy was gonna punch me in the face.

Dayze · 10-01-2019, 07:18 AM

Carmax and the like, are only good for not haggling. Those who either don't want to, don't know how. and/or don't know what the market value of a car is. They're mostly the type that see a car they like, and decide they're buying that car .

nothing wrong with that. but that convenience comes at a price, and the price is "usually" over paying by quite a bit for a used car. Or maybe they're looking for a specific make/model/color used car and spending a little more is worth it to that person in those instances.

my last 3 cars purchased I did most of the haggling via email. in and out in about 20 minutes for paperwork. Granted, 2 of them were from the same dealership so they had some history with me in terms of "hey, this guy will buy a car". I don't lowball. I offer what the market prices are in general; and adjust accordingly for condition. I want them to make a few bucks, and me save a few bucks. Let's just agree that you gotta make a little bit, I want to save a little bit, do the deal, and move on.

that approach has seemed to work ok the last 3 cars we've bought.

burt · 10-01-2019, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63

Autotrader sucks as they are really just ads and not a good way to find a deal.

True

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63

The 3 best are:
1. Carfax
2. True Cars
3. Cars.com

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63

I have found the best way to buy a used vehicle is to look for DIFFERENT dealer or dealership than the brand you are looking for.

As an example: If you want a FORD, try to find the car you want at a Toyota, Hyundai, GM or other because their speciality isn't Fords and someone traded in that vehicle to change brands. You'll get the best deal there.

Best advice ever.

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63

Also EVERYONE always thinks they got a great buy on a used car and are the best negotiators.

When did anyone every walk out of a car dealer thinking they were had?

Yep. Y'all buy a vehicle once every 3 to 7 years. I sell 10 to 15 a month. So...I am sure that you...
1) Out negotiate the dealer
2) Took advantage of said dealer
3) Got a crazy great deal

xbarretx · 10-01-2019, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TLO

I thought this was a thread about Carmex for a second.

chapped lips FTL!!!

neech · 10-01-2019, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

I do that over the phone or via text.

Besides, the dealerships I deal with know I know my shit when it comes to money/prices. They come at me with their best shot right off because they know I’m not messing around with the dance.

I would have to drive the car I'm interested in before I haggle the price but that's just me.

**MahiMike** · 10-01-2019, 09:19 AM

CarMax doesn't haggle. That's why I don't shop at those places. Then again, I don't shop at ANY dealer. Buy directly from the car owner...

**notorious** · 10-01-2019, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by neech

I would have to drive the car I'm interested in before I haggle the price but that's just me.

Last pickup I bought I didn’t see until they handed me the keys.

It was the new model year replacement truck of what I already owned. I’m on a two year cycle.

neech · 10-01-2019, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Last pickup I bought I didn’t see until they handed me the keys.

It was the new model year replacement truck of what I already owned. I’m on a two year cycle.

I thought you were talking about used cars, I see. Which brand of truck do you buy if I may ask?

lawrenceRaider · 10-01-2019, 10:21 AM

I wouldn't buy a car from Carmax. Well overpriced and mostly sell rental cars.

ClevelandBronco · 10-01-2019, 10:32 AM

I bought a car a few years ago from a "no haggle" dealer this way: I wrote the cash price I was willing to pay on the back of my business card and told them they could call me only if they would accept my price. My number was substantially lower than theirs. They called.

I have no idea as to all the reasons they decided to accept my number, but they did. Might be worth a shot.

**Rain Man** · 10-01-2019, 10:33 AM

Carmax is in the top 2% of the S&P 500 stock performance today: https://www.cnbc.com/us-market-movers/ The market is watching your purchase process and feels that you're overpaying.

09-30-2019, 01:06 PM
TinyEvel Just a li'l Evel Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bald. Goatee. Jorts. Casino cash: $5257131	Carmax seems overpriced - do you haggle them? Jut started looking for a third family car the teens can drive and ding up. Looking at 2008 Honda civic 4-door with around 100,000 miles. There's a few on craigslist from private parties and independent dealers for around $6,000. Car max wants $9,999 for a very similar/same car with similar options. Their "no haggle price." I thought they were supposed to be a good deal. What gives?
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09-30-2019, 06:24 PM	#31
suzzer99 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: L.A. Casino cash: $2584284	I thought I knew what I was doing when I got my FJ Cruiser. I haggled them down to $27,500 (it was the end of the first model year and gas prices had just spiked so there was a glut). But then they took me in the little room and I cracked. I'd never bought a new car before. Didn't know about the little room. I left everything I had out there on the floor haggling with the salesman then the manager. They got me for $500 for "turning on" the damn alarm system and another $700 for bullshit supplemental insurance to cover the difference between the amount my insurance will pay and amount owed if I wreck it in the first couple years. I balked at the insurance and the dude actually said "Is money a little tight?" And it basically worked. Hell no money's not tight. I'll show you! I AM AN IDIOT. If I ever buy another new car I know to agree on the price "out the door", and threaten to walk out when they try to add more in the little room. ****ing little room.
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09-30-2019, 08:11 PM	#32
Hamwallet Veteran Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Central Florida Casino cash: $1129080	I guess I am not a baller that gets taken back to rooms. Every deal at Carmax is on the floor from my experience. As for the extra fees. I also call BS.
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10-01-2019, 06:51 AM	#34
scho63 Politically Incorrect Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Casino cash: $2391110	Carmax and Carvana are both way overpriced. Autotrader sucks as they are really just ads and not a good way to find a deal. Carmax has terrible listings. The 3 best are: 1. Carfax 2. True Cars 3. Cars.com I have found the best way to buy a used vehicle is to look for DIFFERENT dealer or dealership than the brand you are looking for. As an example: If you want a FORD, try to find the car you want at a Toyota, Hyundai, GM or other because their speciality isn't Fords and someone traded in that vehicle to change brands. You'll get the best deal there. Also EVERYONE always thinks they got a great buy on a used car and are the best negotiators. When did anyone every walk out of a car dealer thinking they were had? __________________ *"The only difference between sex for free and sex for money is that sex for free costs you a WHOLE LOT more!"* ~Redd Foxx~ ~~2018 2019 2020 20212022 2023~~ 2024 Adopt a Chief - Clark Hunt and Brett Veach "The men who drafted Patrick Mahomes" Last edited by scho63; 10-01-2019 at 07:27 AM..
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10-01-2019, 07:18 AM	#36
Dayze Resident Glue Sniffer Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $4849358	Carmax and the like, are only good for not haggling. Those who either don't want to, don't know how. and/or don't know what the market value of a car is. They're mostly the type that see a car they like, and decide they're buying that car . nothing wrong with that. but that convenience comes at a price, and the price is "usually" over paying by quite a bit for a used car. Or maybe they're looking for a specific make/model/color used car and spending a little more is worth it to that person in those instances. my last 3 cars purchased I did most of the haggling via email. in and out in about 20 minutes for paperwork. Granted, 2 of them were from the same dealership so they had some history with me in terms of "hey, this guy will buy a car". I don't lowball. I offer what the market prices are in general; and adjust accordingly for condition. I want them to make a few bucks, and me save a few bucks. Let's just agree that you gotta make a little bit, I want to save a little bit, do the deal, and move on. that approach has seemed to work ok the last 3 cars we've bought. __________________ Life is 99% inspiration, 1% Perspiration, and 1% Attention to Detial. RIP & Godspeed: Saccoppo Lonewolf Ed Fire Me Boy
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10-01-2019, 09:19 AM	#40
MahiMike He's Mahomie! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Jax, FL Casino cash: $10023443	CarMax doesn't haggle. That's why I don't shop at those places. Then again, I don't shop at ANY dealer. Buy directly from the car owner... __________________ 99.9%
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10-01-2019, 10:21 AM	#43
lawrenceRaider Here We Go Again Join Date: May 2002 Casino cash: $1923544	I wouldn't buy a car from Carmax. Well overpriced and mostly sell rental cars. __________________
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10-01-2019, 10:32 AM	#44
ClevelandBronco I'm with the banned. Join Date: Sep 2006 Casino cash: $5658955	I bought a car a few years ago from a "no haggle" dealer this way: I wrote the cash price I was willing to pay on the back of my business card and told them they could call me only if they would accept my price. My number was substantially lower than theirs. They called. I have no idea as to all the reasons they decided to accept my number, but they did. Might be worth a shot. __________________ "Faith and reason are like two wings on which the human spirit rises to the contemplation of truth ..." – Pope Saint John Paul II
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10-01-2019, 10:33 AM	#45
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $2938491 VARSITY	Carmax is in the top 2% of the S&P 500 stock performance today: https://www.cnbc.com/us-market-movers/ The market is watching your purchase process and feels that you're overpaying. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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