Late night bullshit: places I think the Chiefs must go in the draft.

[Direckshun]

Just thinking out loud here, humor me.

KC has eight picks in the draft.

3 high rounders (tier 1)
2 midrounders (tier 2)
3 low-rounders (tier 3)

I think this team's worst need is two-fold: nose tackle and secondary depth.

This season, the Chiefs will face an incumbent Carson Palmer twice, Philip Rivers twice, Peyton Manning twice, Matt Ryan, two overall #1 picks of the past two years in Cam Newton and Andrew Luck, Ben Rothlessberger and Drew Brees. That is a brutal line of quarterbacks.

Which of course means two things: we could be facing these QBs for months with Travis Daniels as a starting corner if either Routt or Flowers go down (Arenas is pretty much a pure nickel corner). Not to mention our precarious safety situation, in which we only have Berry and Lewis, only two players with any reliability. I'd like much more talent here.

The Chiefs of course need to find themselves a nose. They need to find themselves depth across the front seven, particularly at OLB and DE.

And the Chiefs need depth along the offensive line, which right now stands only at David Mims and Darryl Harris.

So following my own arbitrarily restrictive guidelines, how might I arrange this draft?

The one indispensible one, I'd think, would be the nose, which would almost have to be selected in the first three rounds. DE is a tough position to invest in, so I think that'd have to be a high round pick, too.

Offensive line depth should require something like two picks, maybe some tackle depth in the midrounds and some interior OL depth in the late rounds.

So that commits our three tiers to something like this:

Tier 1 (3 picks): NT, DE, ???
Tier 2 (2 picks): OT, ???
Tier 3 (3 picks): OG, ???, ???

I know this is all based purely on need, which is not how you draft. But I'm just playing with an exercise here.

That means you have a pick still free in the first tier, one in the second tier, and two in the third tier.

Here's the thing, I think we should have one secondary selection in all three tiers.

I know that only leaves one spot open for passrusher, and it's in the third tier, but there are some pretty interesting developmental guys in the lowrounds this year as passrushers, and we've already got 5 passrushers under contract.

Just thinking out loud here.

1. DE Michael Brockers, LSU
2. NT Alameda Ta'amu, Washington
3. S Brandon Taylor, LSU
4. CB Brandon Boykin, Georgia
5. OT Brandon Mosley, Auburn
6. S Winston Guy, Jr., Kentucky
7. OLB Kyle Wilbur, Wake Forest
7. OG Austen Pasztor, Virginia

The team:

QB: Cassel, Quinn, Stanzi
RB: Charles, Hillis, McCluster
FB: Bannon

WR: Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin, Copper, McCluster
TE: Moeaki, Boss, Maneri

LT: Albert, Mosley
LG: Lilja, Harris
C: Hudson, Harris
RG: Asamoah, Pasztor
RT: Winston, Mosley

DE: Dorsey, Bailey
NT: Ta'amu, Gordon, Powe
DE: Jackson, Brockers, Gordon

OLB: Hali, Sheffield
ILB: Belcher, Siler
ILB: Johnson, Siler
OLB: Houston, Studebaker, Wilbur

CB: Flowers, Routt, Arenas, Daniels, Brown, Boykin
S: Berry, Lewis, Taylor, Guy

[Coogs]

I'm warming to the idea of Brockers if we are locked into the #11 slot as well. Brockers, Bailey, and Jackson could be a nice rotation for the next several years there. And I am still not convinced that moving Dorsey to the NT position and keeping him if he plays well there is not a bad option either. Dorsey, Powe, Gordon, and possibly even Greg should be a nice interior rotation.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Who're you interested in at #11 overall?

Or, let's say, the low teens?

At 11 overall, barring crazy shit like Richardson or Claiborne falling to us, I like in order:

1) Tannehill
2) Ingram
3) DeCastro
4) Kuechly

I'm going to get groans for saying Tannehill, but I'm sick of drafting a loudmouth WR in the first round and having the Chiefs front office go, "YA'LL WANTED RISK? WELL HERE'S YOUR ****ING RISK. WE CARE ABOUT THE FRANCHISE. SEE? NOW LET US GO BACK TO DRAFTING NOTHING BUT DEFENSIVE LINEMEN." Show me you really care and roll the dice on a guy who could be really ****ing good. And contrary to popular belief around the draftmosphere, I definitely think there's a good chance of Tannehill straight-up falling to us at 11. I don't think we'll have to trade up to go get him.

I'm high enough on Crick that I believe he can be the gap shooter on the defensive line than Dorsey is not. His ceiling isn't anywhere close to Brockers', but I don't think we need that out of our #11 overall pick. A draft that goes something like this would leave me pretty ****ing ecstatic. And this is all assuming that Pioli doesn't try to trade down, which I definitely believe he'll try to do at least once in this draft, if not in the first round then in the middle rounds.

1) Tannehill
2) Crick
3) Ta'amu/Chapman
4) Saulsberry/Molk
5) Trenton Robinson
6) Some guy
7a) Some guy
7b) Some guy

[RealSNR]

HOLY SHIT DID YOU GUYS SEE THE WORD I JUST INVENTED?

Draftmosphere

I AM THE GREATEST THING TO EVER HAPPEN.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by SNR

At 11 overall, barring crazy shit like Richardson or Claiborne falling to us, I like in order:

1) Tannehill
2) Ingram
3) DeCastro
4) Kuechly

I'm going to get groans for saying Tannehill, but I'm sick of drafting a loudmouth WR in the first round and having the Chiefs front office go, "YA'LL WANTED RISK? WELL HERE'S YOUR ****ING RISK. WE CARE ABOUT THE FRANCHISE. SEE? NOW LET US GO BACK TO DRAFTING NOTHING BUT DEFENSIVE LINEMEN." Show me you really care and roll the dice on a guy who could be really ****ing good. And contrary to popular belief around the draftmosphere, I definitely think there's a good chance of Tannehill straight-up falling to us at 11. I don't think we'll have to trade up to go get him.

I'm high enough on Crick that I believe he can be the gap shooter on the defensive line than Dorsey is not. His ceiling isn't anywhere close to Brockers', but I don't think we need that out of our #11 overall pick. A draft that goes something like this would leave me pretty ****ing ecstatic. And this is all assuming that Pioli doesn't try to trade down, which I definitely believe he'll try to do at least once in this draft, if not in the first round then in the middle rounds.

1) Tannehill
2) Crick
3) Ta'amu/Chapman
4) Saulsberry/Molk
5) Trenton Robinson
6) Some guy
7a) Some guy
7b) Some guy

Tannehill CAN NOT be our pick at #11.

If he falls to us, that means Tannehill's former coach, the Dolphins' OC, passed on him.

Red flags abound.

And by the way, if Richardson or Claiborne fall to us, we're definitely trading down.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by SNR

HOLY SHIT DID YOU GUYS SEE THE WORD I JUST INVENTED?

Draftmosphere

I AM THE GREATEST THING TO EVER HAPPEN.

You lost the draft, by the way.

[RealSNR]

You put up a good talk, Direckshun, but just becase you have all of Chiefs Planet fooled doesn't mean I am. I can see around your emotional defense mechanism of sarcasm, mixed feelings, false acceptance, and (dare I say?) jealousy. And between those bars I can see the true you, and that's a giant stuffed teddy bear who needs a giant hug in the worst way.

[qabbaan]

It would be nice but we aren't picking Tannehill, it's useless to talk about. We are married to Cassel.

[keg in kc]

I know exactly where the chiefs must go in the draft: to the guy to whom they hand the picks.

[Okie_Apparition]

Just 3 weeks until the post pick meltdown
Cheesy popcorn recipe testing time

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I know exactly where the chiefs must go in the draft: to the guy to whom they hand the picks.

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

When you finish in last place and have the 11th pick in the draft and wind up with only a single year one starter and no QBOTF, you've had a bad draft.

There simply is no such thing as a last place team with no QB that is so talented that you shouldn't be able to draft more than 1 player who even projects to be a year one starter unless you grab a QB in the first round.

This team is a last place team because of the QB. I like this draft very much and there are several players in there who down the road could step in and start. I don't see any QBotF that I would trust to be a franchise any more than what Stanzi is. If you draft a QB, they either have to cut Stanzi or the new guy doesn't make the roster. No way we come into a year again with a backup who hasn't taken a single snap in the NFL.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by whoman69

This team is a last place team because of the QB. I like this draft very much and there are several players in there who down the road could step in and start.

It was also in last place because (arguably...) the best player on offense and the best player on defense were both lost for the year very early on. That's two starting spots right there that will be upgraded without the draft. And you can add the new right tackle to that. People talk a lot about the roster like it's strewn with holes, but I just don't see it. On the d-line you have the nose, on the o-line you have center, receiver is solid, running back is solid, tight end is solid, cornerback is solid, OLB is solid, ILB could use some depth but that's not an 11th pick thing, safety is solid. And then there's QB.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

It was also in last place because (arguably...) the best player on offense and the best player on defense were both lost for the year very early on. That's two starting spots right there that will be upgraded without the draft. And you can add the new right tackle to that. People talk a lot about the roster like it's strewn with holes, but I just don't see it. On the d-line you have the nose, on the o-line you have center, receiver is solid, running back is solid, tight end is solid, cornerback is solid, OLB is solid, ILB could use some depth but that's not an 11th pick thing, safety is solid.

At first I was like

And then there's QB.

Then i was like