Changed my tune - forget Trotter, go for Hartwell - Page 3

Sure-Oz · 03-03-2005, 09:20 AM

I wouldnt mind hartwell or trotter, ill be happy with either.

**the Talking Can** · 03-03-2005, 09:24 AM

I want Hartwell because he is young and "seemingly" entering his prime...but I'll dance the happy dance for Trotter as well, knees be damned...

Gaz · 03-03-2005, 09:27 AM

If megabucks are going to be spent [and after last season, they certainly should be spent] then they are better spent on LB Hartwell than CB Rolle, Surtain or Smoot [crippled old Law does not even count].

xoxo~
Gaz
Wants some game day impact from the money [which excludes CB].

HC_Chief · 03-03-2005, 09:30 AM

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Wants some game day impact from the money [which excludes CB].

Couldn't be more wrong there. CB is key to Gunther's scheme - he loves to blitz and leave receivers in single coverage. If our corners are incapable to playing a receiver one-on-one, the scheme fails (and we end up with the worst D in the league... sound familiar?)

siberian khatru · 03-03-2005, 09:27 AM

If Trotter's knees can hold up for 1-2 years, I'll be satisfied. He'll come cheaper than Hartwell, who's got 16 teams pining for him. (But I've got nothing against Hartwell, who I like as well.)

htismaqe · 03-03-2005, 09:44 AM

After reading the stuff about Hartwell wanting to be a Chief, he's moved back into my #1 spot on the wish list...

keg in kc · 03-03-2005, 09:53 AM

Cold? Me? Nooooo.

Call me Mr. Freeze.

HipHopper4Life · 03-03-2005, 09:56 AM

A 12 million signing bonus wasn't enough to get Kendrell Bell signed. The diffrence between what Trotter gets and what Hartwell and Bell get is going to be huge.

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The Giants, somewhat surprisingly, also came out of the gate aggressively, offering Steelers free agent linebacker Kendrell Bell a deal that included a $12 million signing bonus.

King_Chief_Fan · 03-03-2005, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

The more I read about Ed Hartwell, the more I'm convinced he's the better fit.

He's younger than Trotter, he doesn't have the injury history, and he learned from one of the best LBs in football.

I know that playing along with Ray Lewis may make him a question mark, but when Lewis went down he was dominant.

The guy wants to be a Chief. He came here first after 16 teams contacted him and that's the kind of player I want on this defense.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be upset over signing Trotter, but I've changed my tune. Go get Hartwell and Rolle.

my choices all long,,,,,,,,
get with the program Carl

DenverChief · 03-03-2005, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

The more I read about Ed Hartwell, the more I'm convinced he's the better fit.

He's younger than Trotter, he doesn't have the injury history, and he learned from one of the best LBs in football.

I know that playing along with Ray Lewis may make him a question mark, but when Lewis went down he was dominant.

The guy wants to be a Chief. He came here first after 16 teams contacted him and that's the kind of player I want on this defense.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be upset over signing Trotter, but I've changed my tune. Go get Hartwell and Rolle.

Exactamundo its the injury thing that bothers me the most

Sure-Oz · 03-03-2005, 10:32 AM

Hartwell and Rolle, then i wont care who else we add, it will be bonus time after that!

Vegas_Dave · 03-03-2005, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Hartwell and Rolle, then i wont care who else we add, it will be bonus time after that!

Agreed. I would be most impressed if they did not sign anyone other then Hartwell & Rolle and then re-signed Fujita. He is a great LB and keeps getting better. put him next to a guy like Hartwell and he will excel.

Personally, I also liked Barber. If hes healthy, I would be very happy with Fujita, Hartwell & Barber as our starting LB's. Barber suffered by not having a strong MLB as did Fujita.

Also, I think that Warfield & Rolle would make a good CB combo.

Eleazar · 03-03-2005, 12:22 PM

Allright! Next time I change my mind about something, I'll create a new thread just so everyone knows. Don't want anyone in the dark about that.

Gaz · 03-03-2005, 12:31 PM

Give me Hartwell [just say no to Trotter's knees] and any CB except Law or Surtain [unless the Dolphins drop the 2nd Round draft pick nonsense] and I will be happier than I was yesterday. I would consider it a waste to pay that kind of money for a CB, but we are headed for Rebuild City in a year anyway, so the cap hit does not matter as much.

We would still need a FA OLB and a draft CB, but the major hurdles would have been, well, hurdled.

xoxo~
Gaz
Easier to please than some.

HolmeZz · 03-03-2005, 12:31 PM

I've been more on the Trotter bandwagon because I think he can be a great leader, would be cheaper, and is more of a playmaker than Hartwell. I'd gladly take Ed though; no complaints.

03-03-2005, 09:24 AM	#2
the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $9202208	I want Hartwell because he is young and "seemingly" entering his prime...but I'll dance the happy dance for Trotter as well, knees be damned... __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
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03-03-2005, 09:27 AM	#3
Gaz Defense Homer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rancho Gaz Casino cash: $10010793	Hartwell and a couple of second-tier CBs would be just about right... If megabucks are going to be spent [and after last season, they certainly should be spent] then they are better spent on LB Hartwell than CB Rolle, Surtain or Smoot [crippled old Law does not even count]. xoxo~ Gaz Wants some game day impact from the money [which excludes CB].
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03-03-2005, 09:27 AM	#5
siberian khatru 21st Century Schizoid Fan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Gates of Delirium Casino cash: $-1325050	If Trotter's knees can hold up for 1-2 years, I'll be satisfied. He'll come cheaper than Hartwell, who's got 16 teams pining for him. (But I've got nothing against Hartwell, who I like as well.)
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03-03-2005, 09:44 AM	#6
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8139900	After reading the stuff about Hartwell wanting to be a Chief, he's moved back into my #1 spot on the wish list...
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Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	Allright! Next time I change my mind about something, I'll create a new thread just so everyone knows. Don't want anyone in the dark about that.
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03-03-2005, 12:31 PM	#14
Gaz Defense Homer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rancho Gaz Casino cash: $10010793	The Bad Guy is such a fickle tramp... Give me Hartwell [just say no to Trotter's knees] and any CB except Law or Surtain [unless the Dolphins drop the 2nd Round draft pick nonsense] and I will be happier than I was yesterday. I would consider it a waste to pay that kind of money for a CB, but we are headed for Rebuild City in a year anyway, so the cap hit does not matter as much. We would still need a FA OLB and a draft CB, but the major hurdles would have been, well, hurdled. xoxo~ Gaz Easier to please than some.
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03-03-2005, 12:31 PM	#15
HolmeZz i guess its bittersweet poetry Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NeW HaVeN, CT Casino cash: $10004900	I've been more on the Trotter bandwagon because I think he can be a great leader, would be cheaper, and is more of a playmaker than Hartwell. I'd gladly take Ed though; no complaints.
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