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BIG_DADDY · 04-02-2005, 11:54 PM

So I am checking it out tonight and they put on this last story. Two guys drag race and one of them loses control and strikes a women and kills her, both cars take off. Now I know if you drive off and leave somebody like that even if you were not the driver who did it there has to be a pretty serious price to pay however I never expected what came next. He was charged with murder. Charged with murder? WTF? Apparently if you engage in a speed contest and anyone dies you are charged with murder. Is it any wonder people take off and leave people like that, they don't have any choice. Every day I get more disgusted with our legal system, this is just the most thing to blow me away.

Adept Havelock · 04-03-2005, 10:59 AM

These two idiot drivers should have the book thrown at them. Murder may not be an appropriate (as I don't see how this qualifies as 2nd or 3rd degree) charge. Likely it's a plea bargin tactic from the prosecutor.

Let's hit them for Reckless Endangerment, Leaving the Scene of an accident, Vehicular Manslaughter, and anything else that applies.

Do the crime, do the time.
Just think of removing these idiots from the gene pool for a while as evolution in action.

Some people may want to whine that they are throwing the book at these fools. Tell that to the family of the deceased. I'll reserve my sympathy for them.

**wazu** · 04-03-2005, 12:10 PM

The man who hit this woman took a life because he was being reckless and not considering the extreme danger that his actions could cause to others. A motor vehicle is a very dangerous weapon in the hands of a fool.

Throw the book at him. I don't want him on the road ever again.

KCWolfman · 04-03-2005, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Adept Havelock

These two idiot drivers should have the book thrown at them. Murder may not be an appropriate (as I don't see how this qualifies as 2nd or 3rd degree) charge. Likely it's a plea bargin tactic from the prosecutor.

Let's hit them for Reckless Endangerment, Leaving the Scene of an accident, Vehicular Manslaughter, and anything else that applies.

Do the crime, do the time.
Just think of removing these idiots from the gene pool for a while as evolution in action.

Some people may want to whine that they are throwing the book at these fools. Tell that to the family of the deceased. I'll reserve my sympathy for them.

Exactly. Our liberal society is on a bent to the extreme of defending the poor poor slob who committed a crime while totally denying the victim. Let's be honest, this idiot didn't leave a dying woman because he was afraid of being charged with murder, he left because he thought he could get away with it.

**Rain Man** · 04-03-2005, 12:16 PM

If someone is being a brainless bonehead and kills a completely innocent person, they should be punished for it. Put the guy in prison for a few years, and then make him give up 80 percent of his income to the victim's family for the rest of his life. Give him just enough to keep from starving.

If he destroys someone else's life by being stupid, then his life should be destroyed in return.

|Zach| · 04-03-2005, 12:16 PM

Wasn't it last week you basically came out against perjury?

jspchief · 04-03-2005, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ZachKC

Wasn't it last week you basically came out against perjury?

No. He was for perjury. He's against punishing people for perjury.

|Zach| · 04-03-2005, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

No. He was for perjury. He's against punishing people for perjury.

Heh, when I wrote it I was thinking of...."the idea of perjury being a part of our court system. But yes, you described it better.

Wacky intraweb.

BIG_DADDY · 04-03-2005, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman

Probably not.

I already said yes. They said on the show that anyone involved in these type of activities will be charged with murder if someone is killed. It's complete crap.

BIG_DADDY · 04-03-2005, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Unfortunately, thats how law works. They try and make punishments that are severe enough to deter people from commiting the crime. Unfortunately, most peole don't think they'll get caught (or don't consider the consequences of being caught) when they engage in criminal activity.

If that's the law, that's what the kid should be charged with. It's his own dumbass fault for racing, and then fleeing the scene of an accident. I'm sure it will be pleaded down anyway.

That kind of thought is very scary. What's next making jay walking a felony punishble by 10 years in prison? "If that's the law, that's what the kid should be charged with. It's his own dumbass fault for walking across the street like that in an undesignated zone"

What makes this worse is it encourages people to take off and not try and help someone in the very rare event that something should happen.

KCWolfman · 04-03-2005, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

I already said yes. They said on the show that anyone involved in these type of activities will be charged with murder if someone is killed. It's complete crap.

Charged and convicted are two separate issues. You guys with your bent against any type of law enforcement always used "charged" as an excuse. We have repeatedly shown that those initially charged with a crime are rarely convicted of the initial charge.

Also let's consider the victim, er I mean offender. Do you think he knew the person was dead? I sincerely doubt even a doctor could make that determination from a high speed vehicle passing by. Are you stating it was more important for him to run than to see if he could help another human being live due to his own foolishness?

BIG_DADDY · 04-03-2005, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

If someone is being a brainless bonehead and kills a completely innocent person, they should be punished for it. Put the guy in prison for a few years, and then make him give up 80 percent of his income to the victim's family for the rest of his life. Give him just enough to keep from starving.

If he destroys someone else's life by being stupid, then his life should be destroyed in return.

Were not even talking about that guy dude, were talking about the person who just raced his car and hurt nobody. Were talking about tge law justifying charging both of the these people with the same crimes.

KCWolfman · 04-03-2005, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

What makes this worse is it encourages people to take off and not try and help someone in the very rare event that something should happen.

If you are encouraged to run away when a person is dying due to your own stupidity, then you deserve to be locked up from reasonable human beings.

unlurking · 04-03-2005, 01:02 PM

If that dumbass tries to walk accross a 5 lane highway (yes I have seen this before) and causes a mulit-vehicle pile up, hell yes the dumbass should fry.

I just think we (at least me as I didn't see the show) are missing a lot of information. The fact that the asshole was betting $12,000 on the race, lives in a nice house with multiple vehicles, and collects welfare is case in point.

unlurking · 04-03-2005, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman

Charged and convicted are two separate issues. You guys with your bent against any type of law enforcement always used "charged" as an excuse. We have repeatedly shown that those initially charged with a crime are rarely convicted of the initial charge.

Also let's consider the victim, er I mean offender. Do you think he knew the person was dead? I sincerely doubt even a doctor could make that determination from a high speed vehicle passing by. Are you stating it was more important for him to run than to see if he could help another human being live due to his own foolishness?

Don't forget, the guy hit THREE people. He could have rendered assistance to the other two that did live.

KCWolfman · 04-03-2005, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking

Don't forget, the guy hit THREE people. He could have rendered assistance to the other two that did live.

The one who died may have lived if he had stopped. We'll never know.

04-02-2005, 11:54 PM
BIG_DADDY THE RED MENACE Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texas Casino cash: $4838410	America's Most Wanted So I am checking it out tonight and they put on this last story. Two guys drag race and one of them loses control and strikes a women and kills her, both cars take off. Now I know if you drive off and leave somebody like that even if you were not the driver who did it there has to be a pretty serious price to pay however I never expected what came next. He was charged with murder. Charged with murder? WTF? Apparently if you engage in a speed contest and anyone dies you are charged with murder. Is it any wonder people take off and leave people like that, they don't have any choice. Every day I get more disgusted with our legal system, this is just the most thing to blow me away.
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04-03-2005, 10:59 AM	#31
Adept Havelock Obligatory Thoughtcriminal Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Flux,awaiting an observer Casino cash: $10004900	These two idiot drivers should have the book thrown at them. Murder may not be an appropriate (as I don't see how this qualifies as 2nd or 3rd degree) charge. Likely it's a plea bargin tactic from the prosecutor. Let's hit them for Reckless Endangerment, Leaving the Scene of an accident, Vehicular Manslaughter, and anything else that applies. Do the crime, do the time. Just think of removing these idiots from the gene pool for a while as evolution in action. Some people may want to whine that they are throwing the book at these fools. Tell that to the family of the deceased. I'll reserve my sympathy for them.
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04-03-2005, 12:10 PM	#32
wazu ... Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $1652295 VARSITY	The man who hit this woman took a life because he was being reckless and not considering the extreme danger that his actions could cause to others. A motor vehicle is a very dangerous weapon in the hands of a fool. Throw the book at him. I don't want him on the road ever again.
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04-03-2005, 12:16 PM	#34
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04-03-2005, 01:02 PM	#43
unlurking MVP Join Date: Aug 2003 Casino cash: $7737309	If that dumbass tries to walk accross a 5 lane highway (yes I have seen this before) and causes a mulit-vehicle pile up, hell yes the dumbass should fry. I just think we (at least me as I didn't see the show) are missing a lot of information. The fact that the asshole was betting $12,000 on the race, lives in a nice house with multiple vehicles, and collects welfare is case in point.
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