KC Man spits on Jane Fonda - Page 3

crossbow · 04-20-2005, 03:24 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor.../fonda_spitter

TIM CURRAN, Associated Press Writer

KANSAS CITY, Mo. - A man spit tobacco juice into the face of actress Jane Fonda after waiting in line to have her sign her new book, police said.

The man ran off but was quickly caught by police Tuesday night and charged with disorderly conduct.

Fonda has been on tour and doing interviews to promote her just-published memoir, "My Life So Far." The thrice-married, two-time Academy Award winner covers a wide array of topics, including her 1972 visit to Hanoi to protest the Vietnam War, during which she was photographed on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun. She has apologized for that photo, but not for opposing the war.

Capt. Rich Lockhart of the Kansas City Police Department said that although Fonda did not want to press charges against Michael A. Smith, 54, of Kansas City, he was arrested on a municipal charge of disorderly conduct after off-duty officers caught him just outside Unity Temple, where Fonda was signing books.

Lockhart said Smith was released on bond late Tuesday night and is due to appear in municipal court on May 27.

Smith, a Vietnam veteran, told The Kansas City Star on Wednesday that Fonda was a "traitor" and that her protests against the war were unforgivable. He said he normally does not chew tobacco but did so Tuesday solely to spit juice on the actress.

"I consider it a debt of honor," he told The Star for a story on its Web site, www.kansascity.com. "She spit in our faces for 37 years. It was absolutely worth it. There are a lot of veterans who would love to do what I did."

Eleazar · 04-20-2005, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jcroft

I don't know a lot about the law, but I would guess those words or actions have to be directed at you before you are legally allowed to respond.

And, apparently the police that arrested him agree with me.

I guess if you want to be intentionally obtuse, and ignore whether or not she did any harm to servicemen in those days, then you could say he had no right to respond.

Sounds like a business transaction to me. He paid a hundred bucks or whatever a disorderly conduct citation costs, and got to spit on Jane Fonda.

Hell, for that price, people would line up around the block for their turn.

jcroft · 04-20-2005, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

She visited a country in which the U.S. was at war, gave them her own personal USO tour, and then posed sitting at an anti-aircraft gun pretending that she was aiming it at American planes. She did this while American prisoners were being held in the same city. I think that outweighs the spitting.

That definitely sounds ****ed up, and I wouldn't blame anyone for disliking her for it. I just think spitting in people's faces, even those you dislike, is pretty classless. That's all.

RaiderH8r · 04-20-2005, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jcroft

I don't know a lot about the law, but I would guess those words or actions have to be directed at you before you are legally allowed to respond.

And, apparently the police that arrested him agree with me.

This thing goes to trial the prosecution better make god damned sure there isn't a single vietnam vet on that jury or this fella walks. And can you imagine the public outcry against her should she choose to see this taken to trial? Book sales would tank and she would have to pretend to fly a plane into the World Trade Center to get enough notoriety to write another book to apologize for her bullshit actions.

Amnorix · 04-20-2005, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jcroft

That definitely sounds ****ed up, and I wouldn't blame anyone for disliking her for it. I just think spitting in people's faces, even those you dislike, is pretty classless. That's all.

Precisely.

jcroft · 04-20-2005, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RaiderH8r

This man has already EARNED his right to free expression which is a damn sight more than I can say for that silver spooned opportunistic twat.

We all have a right to free expression, but we all would also get arrested if we spit on someone's face in public and got caught. He did what he wanted, and he'll pay the consequences. I'm sure he's okay with that -- he's surely weighed the pros and cons of doing this as he's stewed over it for 30 years.

**Rain Man** · 04-20-2005, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jcroft

That definitely sounds ****ed up, and I wouldn't blame anyone for disliking her for it. I just think spitting in people's faces, even those you dislike, is pretty classless. That's all.

In 99.999 percent of cases, I would agree. In this case, I think it's the best that can be done since they can't torture her in a Hanoi prison.

Eleazar · 04-20-2005, 03:42 PM

This place never ceases to amaze me. You can find someone on the planet who will go to bat for anyone or anything.

jcroft · 04-20-2005, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

I guess if you want to be intentionally obtuse, and ignore whether or not she did any harm to servicemen in those days, then you could say he had no right to respond.

Sounds like a business transaction to me. He paid a hundred bucks or whatever a disorderly conduct citation costs, and got to spit on Jane Fonda.

Hell, for that price, people would line up around the block for their turn.

Like I said, I don't know much about what she did. I wasn't even born. I admit to being out of my element. I still think that anyone who holds a grudge for 30 years has some issues.

I agree with you on the business transaction thing, though. I'm sure he's prefectly willing to pay his fine.

RaiderH8r · 04-20-2005, 03:43 PM

"I consider it a debt of honor," he told The Star for a story on its Web site, www.kansascity.com. "She spit in our faces for 37 years. It was absolutely worth it. There are a lot of veterans who would love to do what I did."

He Earned his right, she was given hers by virtue of men like him.....she's a twat.

jcroft · 04-20-2005, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

This place never ceases to amaze me. You can find someone on the planet who will go to bat for anyone or anything.

I assume you're talking about me, but I'm unsure who I'm going to bat for. It's not the guy who spit (I said that was f'd up), and it's not Jane Fonda (I said what she did was f'd up), so I'm confused. Care to enlighten me?

**Skip Towne** · 04-20-2005, 03:49 PM

That slut deserves whatever she gets.

Amnorix · 04-20-2005, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RaiderH8r

This man has already EARNED his right to free expression which is a damn sight more than I can say for that silver spooned opportunistic twat.

I don't believe the 1st amendment is generally understood as including spitting on people. If so, I definitely missed that day in law school...

jcroft · 04-20-2005, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

That slut deserves whatever she gets.

There are a lot of people that deserve to be spit on (and worse), but that doesn't usually make it right for you to spit on them.

jcroft · 04-20-2005, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

I don't believe the 1st amendment is generally understood as including spitting on people. If so, I definitely missed that day in law school...

I didn't go to law school, but I don't imagine there was a day in which you learned that the 1st amendment rights were "earned," either -- was there?

I have the utmost respect for any veteran -- but what they didn't for our country, no matter have amazing and brave, doesn't give them the right to do whatever they want.

**Skip Towne** · 04-20-2005, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jcroft

There are a lot of people that deserve to be spit on (and worse), but that doesn't usually make it right for you to spit on them.

I'd forgive the guy if he had shot her.

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