Ashley Ambrose, our new CB? - Page 3

Bootlegged · 06-28-2005, 04:50 AM

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/12000685.htm

chiefs seek corner

Law is still in picture

Ambrose, however, remains favorite

As week two of the Chiefs’ search for a cornerback began Monday, Ashley Ambrose emerged as the realistic favorite, and Ty Law kept his spot somewhere high on the speed dial.

Coach Dick Vermeil said Monday night that the Chiefs are “very interested” in Ambrose, a 13-year veteran who worked out in Kansas City late last week. The holdup, at least in part, is Law, the Pro Bowl corner who visited the Chiefs in March and is still on the market.

The Chiefs want Law if he will sign for a dramatically reduced price. But Law, who just began making cuts on his surgically repaired foot, reportedly wants big money.

“The thought is to play the whole scenario out,” Vermeil said, “and the scenario does include a final evaluation of Ty Law in terms of what is actually going to happen from a financial standpoint.

“First off, can he pass the physical? And then we have to find out how much money he’s going to be offered on the open market. If he’s going to be offered big money, then we’re automatically out of it.”

While Law was rehabbing his foot this spring, the Chiefs signed cornerback Patrick Surtain, safety Sammy Knight, linebacker Kendrell Bell and defensive end Carlos Hall. The defense appeared to be complete, but then Julian Battle tore his Achilles’ heel during minicamp June 18.

Battle was running with the first team because starter Eric Warfield may miss at least part of the season due to an NFL suspension.

So the Chiefs brought in four free-agent cornerbacks last week who are nearing the twilight of their careers, and Ambrose, 34, was the most impressive. He started six games last year for the Saints and was a Pro Bowler with the Bengals in 1996. After watching film on Ambrose, a 5-foot-11, 195-pound Louisiana native, Vermeil said it’s obvious he can still play.

Ambrose’s agent, Kennard McGuire, said three teams have shown “a tremendous amount of interest,” but Ambrose is patient and wants to find the right fit.

“He’s been to the Pro Bowl, he’s done extremely well from a contractual standpoint,” McGuire said. “I believe more pressing issue with him is being afforded that opportunity to play with a contender. He feels like this is one of situations he’s been waiting on.”

Ambrose will need patience. Vermeil, who’s vacationing in Pennsylvania, said it’s unclear how long the Chiefs will wait to sign a corner. Training camp starts July 28 in River Falls, Wis.

He said the Chiefs have no immediate plans to bring Law in for a physical.

“I think realistically that we, in the future, will make a move on Ashley,” Vermeil said. “Right now we’ve just decided to be patient and see what happens.”

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RedThat · 06-28-2005, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

There isnt anyone that is going to knock anyone's socks off available for what the Chiefs can pay.

If Ambrose is the one with the most skill in the workouts, then thats who they will take. In any case, it will still be better than Julian Battle/Dexter Mcleon starting in my opinion.

That's exactly what I mean. they're going to get a guy coming in for cheap, to play for them. I don't expect him to be good. I hope he's a bargain, and surprise. You never know? At the very least I just hope he's better than McCleon and Battle.

jspchief · 06-28-2005, 08:04 AM

I would prefer Beasley. He'll make a quality nickel after Warfield gets back, so he's not just a band-aid, he's a legitimate addition to the team.

Ambrose probably excites me the least. I guess we can line him up against Rod Smith and we'll have a mini Old Timers game right there at Incestco.

RedThat · 06-28-2005, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon

I would take past performance in games over a workout performance.

I would go with both. Past performances in games and workouts. If Ambrose was good in the workouts, and has game experience for the vet minimum? I guess that is there best shot. He does have a probowl, which is good.

chagrin · 06-28-2005, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

sweet, he was in the pro bowl....a decade ago...anyone got Merton Hanks number?

Merton Hanks...HAHAHA!!

He can do that wild monkey dance in the end one or whenever he makes a tackle...forget the worm Chiefs Fans!!

RedThat · 06-28-2005, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

I would prefer Beasley. He'll make a quality nickel after Warfield gets back, so he's not just a band-aid, he's a legitimate addition to the team.

Ambrose probably excites me the least. I guess we can line him up against Rod Smith and we'll have a mini Old Timers game right there at Incestco.

Line up Ambrose against Lelie or Rice. Rod Smith has been a Chiefs killer, he must be stopped, and Patrick Surtain is the remedy.

Eleazar · 06-28-2005, 08:12 AM

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Chiefnj · 06-28-2005, 08:14 AM

DeWayne Washington was able to play in 16 games last year for a good Jax defense.

Wallcrawler · 06-28-2005, 08:15 AM

Yeah, that Rod Smith is a real pain in the ass. I freaking hate seeing #80 on the field against the Chiefs. At least this season we will have someone other than Warfield to try to match up with him.

Ambrose could handle Rice, I dont know if his 34 year old legs could keep up with Lelie all game though. That guy is pretty fast.

jspchief · 06-28-2005, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

Line up Ambrose against Lelie or Rice. Rod Smith has been a Chiefs killer, he must be stopped, and Patrick Surtain is the remedy.

Uhhh, Yea. My comment was meant more as a facetious commentary on their age than an actual suggestion for a gameplan.

tomahawk kid · 06-28-2005, 08:29 AM

This is, of course, all assuming that Warfield is going to be suspended the first 4 games.

There's (supposedly) already rumors floating that the suspension will only be 2 games, which makes me much more comfortable with signing Ambrose.

Like many on this board have already stated, I think the Chiefs are better off the longer this plays out.

KChiefs1 · 06-28-2005, 08:31 AM

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Ambrose probably excites me the least. I guess we can line him up against Rod Smith

I don't think the Chiefs signed Patrick Surtain to line up against Lelie this year do you?

tomahawk kid · 06-28-2005, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

DeWayne Washington was able to play in 16 games last year for a good Jax defense.

That's what I thought.

Makes me wonder if maybe the Chiefs have heard something regarding Warfield's suspension (or lack thereof).

Perhaps now they're looking for a nickel replacement (Ambrose) for less money, instead of a potential starter replacement (Washington) that could want more $.

Just a thought......

**the Talking Can** · 06-28-2005, 08:35 AM

fwi..Roaf was in that 1996 pro bowl...how amazing is he?

jspchief · 06-28-2005, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

I don't think the Chiefs signed Patrick Surtain to line up against Lelie this year do you?

See post #39

Nice that you edited out the part of the quote that makes it a joke.

ct · 06-28-2005, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

You have to pay for talent guys.

All of you still living in the wet dream that Ty Law is going to go against everything he has said this whole time and just take the vet minimum and play for the Chiefs need to wake the hell up.

The Chiefs cant afford to add another top flight player, or this offseason with the way it has gone, Im sure they would have.

We got 3 former pro bowlers and the most decorated linebacker in the draft. Thats four top caliber players in one offseason.

Thats way more than ANYONE ever expected from the Chiefs. Anyone else added for depth on this team right now is gravy.

When youre paying the Vet Minimum, youre not going to be adding superstar players. Besides, think about this. Ambrose will be brought in to replace JULIAN BATTLE. A scrub who has done jack so far during his time with the Chiefs, and before the season started was a bit of a longshot to even make the team.

At the very least on this Ambrose deal if it happens, we break even. Im quite sure that Ambrose still has enough talent to match what Julian Battle could have done this season.

Most excellent points!

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