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Old 08-18-2005, 02:04 PM  
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Randy Moss admits pot use

Well, sure we all knew it... but to admit it to a reporter???

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/4017976

NEW YORK (AP) - Oakland Raiders receiver Randy Moss admits he has used marijuana since entering the NFL seven years ago and still smokes it "every blue moon."

"I have used, you know, marijuana ... since I've been in the league," Moss said in an interview for HBO's "Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel" scheduled to air Tuesday night. "But as far as abusing it and, you know, letting it take control over me, I don't do that, no."
When pressed whether he still smokes marijuana, the star receiver with the checkered past said: "I might. I might have fun. And, you know, hopefully ... I won't get into any trouble by the NFL by saying that, you know. I have had fun throughout my years and, you know, predominantly in the offseason.

"But, you know, I don't want any kids, you know, watching this taking a lesson from me as far as 'Well, Randy Moss used it so I'm going to use it.' I don't want that to get across. Like I say ... I have used (marijuana) in the past. And every blue moon or every once in a while I might."

The NFL's drug policy calls for up to 10 tests a month after one positive result. A second violation results in a fine equal to the player's salary for four games, a third in a four-game suspension, and a year's suspension for a fourth violation.

Moss has never been suspended for violating the league's drug policy and NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said it is confidential whether the receiver is in the drug program or not.

"We evaluate all conduct related to substance abuse and it is handled confidentially by the doctors," Aiello said.

Moss was traded from the Minnesota Vikings in early March. He was limited by a hamstring injury last season and finished with 49 catches for 767 yards and 13 touchdowns. It was the first time in his seven seasons that he didn't reach 1,000 yards receiving.

Moss has had problems on and off the field throughout his college and pro career. He lost scholarships at Notre Dame and Florida State because of a battery charge and marijuana use. He set records at Marshall and clearly was the most dynamic receiver in the 1998 draft, but lasted until 21st overall because of his past trouble.

Last year, Moss was fined $10,000 for pretending to pull down his pants and moon the Green Bay crowd during Minnesota's playoff win. He also drew criticism for leaving the field with 2 seconds left in a regular-season loss against Washington.

Other transgressions include bumping a traffic control officer with his car in 2002, verbally abusing corporate sponsors on a team bus in 2001 and squirting an official with a water bottle in 1999.
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Old 08-18-2005, 03:01 PM   #31
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An admission is not proof of guilt.

Are you sure about that?
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Old 08-18-2005, 03:02 PM   #32
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No one is denying that he's a thug and a cocky SOB who thinks he's above the system. But that still doesn't mean there is any evidence that he has smoked pot. An admission is not proof of guilt.

Look, we all know he has smoked pot, and I'm not suggesting he IS lying. I'm just saying that there is no proof, and therefore you can't go suspending a guy because of it.
In the legal system, an admission most certainly CAN be used as proof of guilt.

What it boils down to though is what is in the CBA. If the CBA counts "admission" as entry into the substance abuse program, it's an offense, whether there's proof or not.
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Old 08-18-2005, 03:04 PM   #33
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Moss will be the perfect Raider! He moons crowds, doesn't practice hard, smokes pot, tries to run over cops, leaves games early, takes plays off, feels everyone hates him just because he is black, does stupid interviews, yep a match made in heaven. Raiders will be taking a cap hit and paying his salary long after he is in jail.
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Old 08-18-2005, 03:08 PM   #34
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Are you sure about that?
Well, I don't know about in the legal sense. I was simply saying that I can say "I killed a man" but not mean it.
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Old 08-18-2005, 03:08 PM   #35
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No one is denying that he's a thug and a cocky SOB who thinks he's above the system. But that still doesn't mean there is any evidence that he has smoked pot. An admission is not proof of guilt.

Look, we all know he has smoked pot, and I'm not suggesting he IS lying. I'm just saying that there is no proof, and therefore you can't go suspending a guy because of it.
I suspect NFL rules say otherwise. At the very least, his statements can be grounds for a drug test under the players agreement....

"An admission is not proof of guilt" kinda reminds me of the parsing that politicians do....heh.
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Old 08-18-2005, 03:12 PM   #36
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In the legal system, an admission most certainly CAN be used as proof of guilt.

What it boils down to though is what is in the CBA. If the CBA counts "admission" as entry into the substance abuse program, it's an offense, whether there's proof or not.
Alright, then you'd also have to find out what the CBA considers an "admission." I'd think you'd have to admit it in a court of law or to the NFL in some kind of formal way. I wouldn't think telling your buddy (or Bryant Gumbel) would count as a formal admission.

I could certainly be wrong, though.
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Old 08-18-2005, 03:12 PM   #37
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But like Clinton Moss didn't inhale.
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Old 08-18-2005, 03:13 PM   #38
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Well, I don't about in the legal sense. I was simply saying that I can say "I killed a man" but not mean it.
It really depends on where you are when you make the statement.
If your in a bar in River Falls bragging to keep from getting pushed around or in public defenders office being asked if you killed someone or not.
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Old 08-18-2005, 03:13 PM   #39
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At the very least, his statements can be grounds for a drug test under the players agreement....
Probably so, but unless you have a copy of the CBA handy, we don't know...
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Old 08-18-2005, 03:13 PM   #40
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Knowing the union, I'm sure there has to be "physical" proof of guilt, not just mord-of-mouth, even if the mouth belongs to the guy in question.
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Old 08-18-2005, 03:14 PM   #41
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It really depends on where you are when you make the statement.
If your in a bar in River Falls bragging to keep from getting pushed around or in public defenders office being asked if you killed someone or not.
Right. That's what I was getting at in the following post. I'm not sure a statement in an interview would count as a formal admission. But, I don't really know...
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Didn't Moss get busted in Minnesota with a bag of pot in his car about five years ago?


I'd say whatever action the league took then would have already addressed his "have smoked pot" comment.

As to his "still smoke pot" comment, my guess is Moss will be pissing in a cup rather often now.
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Didn't Moss get busted in Minnesota with a bag of pot in his car about five years ago?


I'd say whatever action the league took then would have already addressed his "have smoked pot" comment.

As to his "still smoke pot" comment, my guess is Moss will be pissing in a cup rather often now.
Yup.

Maybe.

Yup.
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I thought it was a bag of pot and a loaded weapon.
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