Surtain and Roaf - Page 3

Calcountry · 09-12-2005, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jynni

I'm thinking the defensive game plan should remain the same - just flatten Collins before he can throw the ball.

Offensively we ride LJ and Priest all day - long drives keep the Raiders O off the field.

If we can run the ball, we can pass it as well. It will be distributed all over the field.

If we can't run it effectively, then we are hosed on the passing as well. The running IS the key to our offense period. Roaf is a big part of that.

htismaqe · 09-12-2005, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bunnytrdr

If we can run the ball, we can pass it as well. It will be distributed all over the field.

If we can't run it effectively, then we are hosed on the passing as well. The running IS the key to our offense period. Roaf is a big part of that.

Priest needs Roaf more than Larry does. If Roaf can't go, we should pound it between the tackles instead of running those stretch plays...

Calcountry · 09-12-2005, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Priest needs Roaf more than Larry does. If Roaf can't go, we should pound it between the tackles instead of running those stretch plays...

We may see some Priest and LJ sets, where Priest can be a safety valve on a play action pass with LJ going up the gut(fake), then swing it to Priest out in the flat.

The Raiders will have to respect LJ, and will be tight up against that threat, then also have Gonzo beyond the backers and Priest in the flat.

The possibilities are endless. Al Saunders has a fun job right now. lol.

beer bacon · 09-12-2005, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bunnytrdr

If we can run the ball, we can pass it as well. It will be distributed all over the field.

If we can't run it effectively, then we are hosed on the passing as well. The running IS the key to our offense period. Roaf is a big part of that.

I don't agree about not being to pass if we can't run. There are quite a few games in recent history where our running game has got basically shut down, and we have gone out and passed for 300+ yards and 30+ points.

Against a team like the Jets or Philadelphia having no Roaf would really hurt because they both have very good pass rushes. Against a team like the Raiders, who has practically no pass rush, we should be fine with Sampson and Black. We might end up playing mostly two TE formations with Dunn helping out our tackles, but Gonzo, Kennison, Parker, and company could still carve up their secondary.

htismaqe · 09-12-2005, 03:22 PM

If forced to choose between Sims or Surtain, I take Sims for this game as crazy as it sounds.

I don't think there's anyway we contain their WR's. Our best shot is to put Collins on his back early and often, and Sims gives us the best shot to do that.

Biohazard · 09-12-2005, 03:59 PM

The raiderfans over at raiderfan BB seem to think that it will not matter if Surtain plays,They think even if he does Moss is going to walk all over him anyway!

beer bacon · 09-12-2005, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Biohazard

The raiderfans over at raiderfan BB seem to think that it will not matter if Surtain plays,They think even if he does Moss is going to walk all over him anyway!

I predict there will be a lot of games this season where Moss has over a 100 yards receiving, but the Raiders still lose by two or more scores.

Biohazard · 09-12-2005, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon

I predict there will be a lot of games this season where Moss has over a 100 yards receiving, but the Raiders still lose by two or more scores.

I agree, Im not in any way implying that Moss is a bad player, because it would be a lie! Lets just hope that the d is in ass kick mode Sunday and we don't let him have one of those 100 yard games!

Chiefs Pantalones · 09-12-2005, 05:08 PM

DV said Surtain would play next week.

Chiefs Pantalones · 09-12-2005, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bunnytrdr

Where did you hear this?

DV Show.

Go to that thread...

Calcountry · 09-12-2005, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

DV Show.

Go to that thread...

I am such a dumass sometimes. I clicked on the go to last post, and didn't know I was in the thread discussing the very question that I asked. Doh!.

Sure-Oz · 09-12-2005, 05:23 PM

If need be let them sit, not worth the season in 1 game esp game #2

KC Jones · 09-12-2005, 05:57 PM

Surtain should take as much time off as HIS doctors tell him to. He was knocked out cold - you could tell by the way the guy getting off of him nudged him and his body moved as if it were totally limp. I've had a couple of concussions in my life (yeah it does explain a lot), and the after effects can linger for weeks. No need to go out on the field too soon and then end his career or have a serious head injury.

**petegz28** · 09-12-2005, 06:17 PM

Surtain went from 90% to 50-50 because they Cheifs are going to screw with the Raiders heads a bit on this. I would.

09-12-2005, 03:22 PM	#5
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8099900	If forced to choose between Sims or Surtain, I take Sims for this game as crazy as it sounds. I don't think there's anyway we contain their WR's. Our best shot is to put Collins on his back early and often, and Sims gives us the best shot to do that.
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09-12-2005, 05:08 PM	#9
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09-12-2005, 05:57 PM	#14
KC Jones Genious Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Colorado Casino cash: $10012761	Surtain should take as much time off as HIS doctors tell him to. He was knocked out cold - you could tell by the way the guy getting off of him nudged him and his body moved as if it were totally limp. I've had a couple of concussions in my life (yeah it does explain a lot), and the after effects can linger for weeks. No need to go out on the field too soon and then end his career or have a serious head injury.
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09-12-2005, 06:17 PM	#15
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-1135873	Surtain went from 90% to 50-50 because they Cheifs are going to screw with the Raiders heads a bit on this. I would.
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