Looking for a new car..

[The Bad Guy]

I've gotten sick of the car I have and am looking for an SUV.

If I can find a buyer, I should get around 13 grand for my car.

Does anyone have any recommendations on a decent SUV?

I'm looking for value, gas miledge, solid performance.

I liked the Pontiac Torrent, but too pricey right now. I'd like to only spend around 15 grand.

Thanks for any help.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Don't get your Hemi in an uproar. I hate to break it to you guys, but foreign cars hold their value better. The whole employee pricing thing killed wholesale prices on domestic auto's. Honda, Toyota, Nissan, are the best cars out there.

You probably are not going to break too much automotive knowledge to me, been messing with them for quite a while.

Good Night and Good Luck.

[4th and Long]

Originally Posted by NJ Chief Fan

DONT BUY AMERICAN

Your and idiot two.

[Logical]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

Your and idiot!

Only if you don't want a quality vehicle with good fit and finish that will be maintenance free. If you don't want all those things by all means buy American.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by 4th and Long

Perhaps you should move to Japan since you value their goods so much, Hirohito.

By stating a fact about a product makes me unamerican? I buy and sell cars for a living, I see it every day. 100k and 5years, domestic cars have a huge depreciation.

So you don't use any products from a different country, everything you own was "Made in the USA", get off your soapbox.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

If I were young and did not have a lot of money I would look into the Mazda 6. My car was in for its 40k service recently and they gave me a Mazda 6 to drive while they worked on it. I really liked that car. Seems like it would be a great buy for a young person.

You can get a used Accord with say 120k for a great price, and get another 120 k in miles and still sell the thing for a couple of grand. Try that with a Mustang.

[Logical]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Don't get your Hemi in an uproar. I hate to break it to you guys, but foreign cars hold their value better. The whole employee pricing thing killed wholesale prices on domestic auto's. Honda, Toyota, Nissan, are the best cars out there.

Best inepxensive cars out there. Best cars are Audi, Volvo, Mercedes, Jaguar, BMW and Lexus.


By the way Bad Guy if you can swing it the BMW X3 and X5 along with the Lexus RX are all outstanding values for SUVs that will last you a long time and maximize your driving experience.

[Logical]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

By stating a fact about a product makes me unamerican? I buy and sell cars for a living, I see it every day. 100k and 5years, domestic cars have a huge depreciation.

So you don't use any products from a different country, everything you own was "Made in the USA", get off your soapbox.

I agree with you, but I would not want to buy a vehicle with that many miles. 30K in miles is about my max for a used vehicle.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

Only if you don't want a quality vehicle with good fit and finish that will be maintenance free. If you don't want all those things by all means buy American.

You might want to check some data more recent than 1979 Vlad. Gawd, the defect rate differences between Asian and American cars is almost negligable and if companies like Mistubishi would report honestly they would probably be about the same.

The only cars lagging behind now in quality are the european ones, the Korean POS are actually leading.

[4th and Long]

Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

Only if you don't want a quality vehicle with good fit and finish that will be maintenance free. If you don't want all those things by all means buy American.

I'm sorry but I can't take you seriously anymore. My father retired as an autoworker. I've never had a foreign car in my life and I've never had a lemon for a car either.

I also can't take a man seriously who doesnt like Skating With The Star and thinks we need to trade Gonzo because he won't sign an autograph for you.

[4th and Long]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

By stating a fact about a product makes me unamerican? I buy and sell cars for a living, I see it every day. 100k and 5years, domestic cars have a huge depreciation.

So you don't use any products from a different country, everything you own was "Made in the USA", get off your soapbox.

Until you're man enough to sack up and come over here and knock me off my soap box, I'll say what I want, boy.

[Logical]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

You might want to check some data more recent than 1979 Vlad. Gawd, the defect rate differences between Asian and American cars is almost negligable and if companies like Mistubishi would report honestly they would probably be about the same.

The only cars lagging behind now in quality are the european ones, the Korean POS are actually leading.

First personally I will only own European, but my I bought my kids cars new or less than a year old Toyota Celica, Mitsubishi, and a Ford Escape. The Celica and Mitsubishi are clearly superior to the Ford. Me I own a Jag so it is not really fair to compare that to a POS American car.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

"Made in the USA", get off your soapbox.

Actually you are the one that stated not to buy Domestic from your Soapbox, previous to that the way I see it, everyone else was making positive recommendations.

[4th and Long]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

Actually you are the one that stated not to buy Domestic from your Soapbox, previous to that the way I see it, everyone else was making positive recommendations.

Who's that standing behind me?
Oh! It's Ed and he's got my back!

[NJ Chief Fan]

Originally Posted by 4th and Long

Your and idiot two.

why because my infiniti hasnt had to go into the shop for any work besides for brakes tires and oil changes while my mothers taurus had to have a new transmission put in it with bout 40,000 less miles than mine and my sisters jeep grand cherokee limited is the biggest piece of shit and has bout the same amount of miles as the ford and its gas pump went a couple months ago and its cooling fan just went a couple weeks ago?


HAHA american cars are garbage after they hit that magic number of 100,000 miles they start to fall apart im sorry people the american glory days of cars are done with...why do you think they are remodeling their cars such as the camaros chargers and rustangs to replicas of the ones from like the 70's

ill only buy 3 makers of cars nissans toyota and bmw the rest suck ass


and dont tell me to move to japan or germany just cause i dont like american cars doesnt mean im not proud to be an american there is no place on earth that id rather live

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

First personally I will only own European, but my I bought my kids cars new or less than a year old Toyota Celica, Mitsubishi, and a Ford Escape. The Celica and Mitsubishi are clearly superior to the Ford. Me I own a Jag so it is not really fair to compare that to a POS American car.

You own a Jag? Then you truly do not care about reliability, the last figures I saw prior to Ford buying them had the warranty rate in the mid 20% range. It is a status symbol with very nice fit and finish though.

Mitsubishi, holy shit. I would recommend bailing out quick while there are still people that will take it off of your hands. The Celica is a good car and so is the Escape.