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Old 04-25-2006, 10:10 PM  
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Manny Lawson should be our 1st pick

Manny Lawson, N.C. State (6-5 3/8, 241, 4.45)
Lawson had a complete workout at the Combine. He ran his two 40s in 4.43 and 4.46 and recorded a 39˝-inch vertical jump, a 10-foot-4 long jump, a 4.18 short shuttle, a 6.90 three-cone drill and 23 bench presses. He played defensive end and running back in high school, and qualified for the State track meet in four different events. He played as a true freshman in 2002 and led the nation with three blocked punts. He also competed on the track team in the spring. He started three games in 2003 and won the ACC long jump in track competition with a 24-foot-3˝ jump. Last season, he started 11 games at defensive end and had 10˝ sacks. Lawson has great athletic ability with above-average toughness. He has very good pass-rush ability and very good quickness. He lacks bulk, but he should be able to put some on. He will be 22 years old in July. I think his best position is defensive end, but he most likely can play outside linebacker and can also be a very good special teams player.

Positives:
A quick pass rusher, Manny Lawson has great size and speed. A sack machine, he is physically gifted and does a great job of using that athleticism to blow through the line. Lawson has great experience and has faced very talented offensive lines, especially in the ACC. He has a very long reach and elusive, quick frame. Lawson also is very effective blocking kicks and punts.


Negatives:
Lawson has definitely benefited from the outstanding play of opposite defensive end Mario Williams. Could add some bulk if he wishes to play DE in the NFL. Lawson needs to become smarter and learn not to primarily use his speed to beat defenders because offensive linemen at the next level are more athletic.


Overview:
Should consider the switch to outside linebacker in a 3-4 defense where he can rush the passer and use his athleticism to drop back in coverage. If he bulks up and adds muscle he could be very similar to a Demarcus Ware type player. Lawson has all the tools that can’t be taught, but needs to mature and become more polished to become a better pure player.


Positives


- Despite playing defensive end at NC State, Manny’s shown he has more than enough athleticism to drop back to play linebacker. He may actually be on of the faster LB prospects in the country, which makes the fact that he played DE fairly astounding. He’s an excellent pass rusher, racking up 7 sacks and 12 tackles for loss last year, but is also very good in run support. Also, he has great size for an Outside Linebacker.

Weaknesses


- Hasn’t played linebacker since his sophomore year, so there’s going to be a natural readjustment period. The first thing that the team that drafts him will have to work on is his coverage skills, because the speed of the game will have changed a great deal from his last LB duty. Plus, he had the benefit of playing across from possibly the best DE in the nation at NC State in Mario Williams, so his numbers may be a little inflated.

Overall Analysis


- The risk/reward value on Manny is one of the highest in the 2006 class. He could never meet his expectations due to the inability to return to the LB position at a high level, or he could turn out to be one of the most dangerous linebackers in the league. Manny’s ideal situation would probably be in a 3-4, which would having him standing up, but also allow the freedom to rush the passer very, very often.


Pros: ATHLETIC, has seen time at both DE and OLB, amazing speed and athleticism for the position, very quick off the bal; great pass rusher with long reach.
Cons: Tweener at both DE or OLB, could add some weight, not very strong, needs to get better against the run, overshadowed by Mario Williams.
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While he may be overshadowed by fellow standout DE Mario Williams, Manny Lawson is something special in his own right. He is incredibly fast (runs a 4.4) and has great size at 6’5” 245 lbs. While Many think that Mario is a better sack artist, Lawson actually lead the team in 2004 with 7 sacks. He has had an equally productive senior season amassing 70 tackles (20 for a loss), with 10 sacks, 21 QB pressures, 1 FF, and a Punt Block. While this may seem too good to be true, Lawson does have his flaws like everyone else. He falls into the Tweener category and would be well suited as a 3-4 OLB. He also could stand to add some weight to his lanky frame and needs to get better against the run. If he can accomplish those things, look for Lawson to be a best in the pros like his Mario.

One Word To Describe Lawson: Athletic / Overshadowed

Most Like: Jason Taylor, Miami Dolphins

Best Fits: Houston, San Francisco, Pittsburgh, Miami (3-4 Teams)
Worst Fits: Washington, St Louis, Baltimore


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In 2004: A second-team All-ACC performer after ranking sixth in the conference with seven sacks for the season ... Former linebacker who ranked third on the team with a dozen tackles for loss and second with 17 quarterback pressures ... Named the Walter Camp Foundation's National Defensive Player of the Week after tallying three sacks in the win over Virginia Tech ... Also earned the ACC's Defensive Lineman of the Week honor for that performance ... Tallied a career-high 10 tackles against Florida State, including three tackles for loss and a sack ... Tied for second in school history with six blocked punts, that mark ranked sixth among current players nationally at the end of the season ... Co-recipient of the 2004 Cary Brewbaker Award, given to the most valuable defensive lineman ... Named the strength index champion for the Wolfpack linemen, he bench pressed 385 pounds, power cleaned 340 pounds, posted a 11'7 broad jump and a 37-1/2" vertical jump.

In 2003: Blocked a punt against Texas Tech and another against Kansas in the Tangerine Bowl ... A demon on special teams, he also scored a touchdown on a blocked punt against UNC ... Saw action at outside linebacker in every regular season contest, starting the Texas Tech and Georgia Tech contests ... Moved to right end in practice prior to the bowl game, he started at that position in the win over Kansas and tallied a seaon-high eight tackles, including a stop behind the line of scrimmage ... In for a season-high 50 snaps versus Texas Tech, he had a season-high seven tackles in that contest as well ... Competed on the track & field squad during the winter and spring, winning the ACC title in the indoor long jump with a mark of 24' 3-1/2 ... Finished second in that event outdoors with a 24'1/2 mark, he finished fifth in the outdoor triple jump (41'1/4) and fourth with the 4x100 meter relay with a time of 41.25 ... Named the Wolfpack's Special Teams Player of the Year .. Named Most Improved Defensive Lineman following 2004 spring drills, he also earned the Defensive Leadership Award ... One of the fastest players on the Wolfpack squad, his vertical jump is higher than the device used to measure that stat.

In 2002: Led the nation with three blocked punts in 2002, that total tied as the third-best single-season mark in school history ... Finished the season strong, with a season-high nine tackles in the win over Notre Dame in the Gator Bowl, he was in for just 21 snaps in that contest ... Had a key stop on a goalline stand, keeping the Irish from scoring any touchdowns ... His best game of the regular season was at Virginia, when he tallied seven tackles, including two third-down stops ... Blocked his first career kick versus UMass, he blocked a punt versus Clemson that Terrence Holt returned for a TD ... Also blocked a punt versus Florida State that was returned for a safety ... Co-winner of the Pack's Most Valuable Specialist award ... Competed with the Wolfpack track squad in the spring of 2003, in his first meet, he won the long jump and the triple jump in the Patroit Games ... Also captured first in the Carolina Heels Challenge in long jump and second in the long jump ... Posted the fastest time in the 60 meter hurdles (indoors) for NC State that season (8.55) ... Earned the Most Dominant Award for defense after spring workouts in 2003.

Prep: Recorded 54 tackles and 11 sacks as a senior for Coach Joe Mitchell... Also rushed for 456 yards ... Named his conference's defensive player of the year following his senior campaign ... Qualified for the state indoor track and field meet in four events: long jump, triple jump, 55-meter dash, and the 55-meter hurdles ... Majoring in industrial engineering ... Born 7/3/84.


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Old 04-26-2006, 04:31 PM   #31
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WEDNESDAY, March 1, 2006, 2:28 p.m.

Manny Lawson, defensive end, North Carolina State

John Lombardi, a former NFL scout and grandson of Packers legend Vince Lombardi, reports on Manny Lawson, a 6-foot-5, 240-pound defensive end from North Carolina State:

"Is he a defensive end or a linebacker? Might have to convert to linebacker to make it in the NFL and he would still need top add some bulk and strength to hold the point. He would probably be better as a 3-4 outside backer. Does not have the bulk to be a defensive end at this time. Not sure he can get significantly bigger. Media guide shows he is a weight room guy. He is very athletic for his position and even though he did not show much production in space, I feel he could play as a backer if he has limited coverage responsibility. Will be a very good blitzer, but could develop some additional pass rush moves. Has very good speed and quickness. May be the fastest player on the team. More instinctive than Mario Williams, he can sniff out screens and draws and has more awareness in my estimation. Has been a special teams demon in the past and is very adept at blocking kicks. Also has a reputation for being very adept at covering kicks. He would be a welcome addition to the team as a special teams player as he develops into a linebacker or matures into a defensive end. Could also be utilized as a pass rush specialist. Unlike some projects, he could contribute immediately. And he played defensive end in the Senior Bowl, so it looks like NFL teams want to see him with his hand in the dirt. He went up against D'Brickashaw Ferguson for most of his snaps and was mostly neutralized as a pass rusher. Ferguson is the best pass blocker in the draft, so that was not unexpected. It is difficult to out-quick Ferguson and Lawson is not big enough to out-power Ferguson. Lawson was effective coming off blocks to make plays around the line of scrimmage and downfield once the runner got beyond the line of scrimmage. Once again, he is a very good athlete and has tools, but needs to either bulk up to be more effective as an end or transition to the linebacker position."
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Old 04-26-2006, 04:43 PM   #32
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KC will pick Lawson or trade down to pick up Hali
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Old 04-26-2006, 05:50 PM   #33
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He went up against D'Brickashaw Ferguson for most of his snaps and was mostly neutralized as a pass rusher. Ferguson is the best pass blocker in the draft, so that was not unexpected. It is difficult to out-quick Ferguson and Lawson is not big enough to out-power Ferguson. Lawson was effective coming off blocks to make plays around the line of scrimmage and downfield once the runner got beyond the line of scrimmage.

Interesting! I have the Senior Bowl Tivo'd. I thought Lawson got the best of Ferguson on several plays. Sacks? None that i can remember right off hand, but what I recall is Lawson really pressuring the QB and forcing throw aways.

I'm going to have to rewatch some of the Senior Bowl tonight to see if I was mistaken.


And I do know htis for a fact. I saw Lawson make McNeil from Auburn look silly on a one-on-one pass rush drill at the Senior Bowl practice sessions. It was on just the other night on a replay on ESPNU.
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BCF,

Have you read any recent reports on Lawson? I heard he's put on 10-15 pounds and is looking to become a permanent 4-3 DE...

At 6'5", 255-260, I think he'd be damn near perfect for us as a DE.
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BCF,

Have you read any recent reports on Lawson? I heard he's put on 10-15 pounds and is looking to become a permanent 4-3 DE...

At 6'5", 255-260, I think he'd be damn near perfect for us as a DE.
but did he lose any quickness by gaining the weight?
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but did he lose any quickness by gaining the weight?
Even so he'd still be quicker than most

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but did he lose any quickness by gaining the weight?
He said he would put on weight until he started to lose quickness, then he wouldn't go any higher. Even if he lost a tenth off of his time, that is still 4.53 which would rock.
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but did he lose any quickness by gaining the weight?
I don't know for a fact that he actually gained weight, that's why I was asking.

But like Coogs said, even if he lost a 10th of his speed, he'd still be faster than alot of LB's.
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Have you read any recent reports on Lawson? I heard he's put on 10-15 pounds and is looking to become a permanent 4-3 DE...

At 6'5", 255-260, I think he'd be damn near perfect for us as a DE.
The latest I've heard is he is keeping his weight down, because he doesn't know whether he will be a LBer or a DE at this point. He believes he can easily put on weight. He's done it before by eating potatoes and working out to bulk up. It's one of the posts that I posted earlier on this thread, it's from the Atlanta Falcons website, but rather than look for it, here's an excerpt, that Gosselin wrote about the same thing. I'll look for the orginal post number so you read the interview in it's entirety. Also, there is actual audio clip, if you prefer to hear it direct from Manny, himself. I'll edit this post and put the link up again. Meanwhile, here's the short version...

Posted on Wed, Apr. 19, 2006email thisprint this
Evaluating defensive linemen for NFL draft
BY RICK GOSSELIN
The Dallas Morning News
SPOTLIGHT ON

Manny Lawson, DE, North Carolina State

The Super Bowl champion has played a 3-4 defense for three consecutive years: New England in 2003-04 and Pittsburgh in 2005. The NFL is a copycat league. If a blueprint works, other teams steal it.

Pittsburgh was the only team playing a 3-4 in 2001. The Steelers have led the NFL in defense twice and won a championship since then. Eight teams played the scheme in 2005, and the number will increase in 2006.

So more and more teams are scouting the undersized ends in the college game. The search is on for speed rushers off the edge like Jason Taylor, who entered the NFL at 6-6, 239 pounds. He's now a Pro Bowl pass rusher playing at 255 pounds for Miami.

Manny Lawson has been compared to Taylor on this draft board. He's 6-5, 241 with 4.43-second speed over 40 yards. He posted 10 sacks at North Carolina State in 2005 and 20 in his career. He started a handful of games at linebacker in 2003 but moved to end in 2004. He put on 25 pounds for the 2005 season.

"Baked potatoes," Lawson said. "Then I went to the gym. Eating and working out, instead of eating, running and working out."

Lawson can continue eating those baked potatoes and bulking up to play end in a 4-3. Or he can stay at the same weight and move back to linebacker in a 3-4.

"My frame can hold a lot, but I don't want to substitute weight for speed," Lawson said. "So I'd stop when I start slowing down."
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My first two rounds are Lawson and Cedric Griffin, CB from Texas in the 2nd. Herm said the key for CB's is to find a CB's (and players) who fits/fit the system, which is Cover 2. Lawson fits the DE spot to a T, as does Griffin. This is from the Scout.com magazine, typed word for word...

Pos: Physical cornerback with good upside potential. Jams opponents at the line, fluid turning his sips and easily runs downfield with receivers. Quickly breaks to the throw, has a burst of closing speed as well as a hard-hitting style. Active in run defense, attacks opponents and shakes the ball loose with jarring hits.

Neg: Mentally hesitant, slow locating the ball and gives up receptions when he should not. Struggles making plays with his back to the ball.

Analysis: A terrific athlete with good upside, Griffin could start at the next level in the proper system. Best in a zone system or press coverage.
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Here's the interview in print. Click on the link and click the audio tab, to hear Manny Lawson, himself.

http://www.atlantafalcons.com/team/article.jsp?id=11113


Manny Lawson (DE - N.C. State) - Sunday, February 26, 2006:


Q: Would you feel most comfortable as a outside linebacker or a defensive end?
Lawson: Wherever a team wants to put me, so long as I can play.


Q: If you went to a 4-3 team, what weight do you think you come become eventually?
Lawson: The way I look at it, my weight can hold a lot, but I don't want to substitute weight for speed, so I'll probably stop adding weight whenever I start slowing down.

Q: What's the most you've ever weighed?
Lawson: The most I've ever weighed is 247.

Q: Are you going to do all the workouts at the Combine?
Lawson: Yes.

Q: Who all have you met with here at the Combine?
Lawson: The Falcons, Jaguars, Dallas, New York Giants, Tampa Bay...I can't remember all of them. I had eight interviews last night.

Q: How about the Dolphins?
Lawson: I have not met with them. I actually met with them at the Senior Bowl.

Q: Is there a certain way to block punts like you did so much in college?
Lawson: There is a specific technique. Really, I think the knack is ‘want to,' as coach [Chuck] Amato would call it. If you want to get back there, you'll do anything or whatever it takes to get back there.

Q: How do you feel about being compared to linebacker/defensive end tweeners like Willie McGinest?
Lawson: It's crazy because they've done things I have not yet done, so I don't know what to say.

Q: Do you think Mario Williams complemented you as much as you were a complement to him at State?
Lawson: I think it goes both ways. When you see one guy coming around the corner, you're definitely not going to run his way, so you're automatically going to go the other way and into the next guy, who you don't see. I think we both complemented each other.

Q: Are you faster than Mario?
Lawson: By far. It's not even close. Not even.

Q: You did jumps for N.C. State track?
Lawson: Yes. Long jump and triple jump. I ran track all the way up until my junior year. I stopped before my senior year so I could focus more on football and get closer to [weighing] 400 pounds [laughs].

Q: How many reps did you do in the bench?
Lawson: I did 23 reps.

Q: Is that the most you've ever done?
Lawson: Actually, that's the only time I've ever done it.

Q: Where are you training?
Lawson: Phoenix, Arizona. Fisher Sports wish Brett Fisher.

Q: Did you put 25 pounds on before your senior year?
Lawson: Yes.

Q: How?
Lawson: Baked potatoes. Baked potatoes and right after I ate baked potatoes, I went to the gym. Just constantly eating and then working out rather than eating and running and then working out.

Q: How much have you played standing up like a linebacker?
Lawson: I played probably two years to a year and a half.

Q: As a starter?
Lawson: I started against passing teams standing up whenever my talents were needed to cover a tight end or a receiver.

Q: So do you think playing outside linebacker for a 3-4 team would be a huge adjustment for you?
Lawson: I don't feel it will be new to me at all. There may be a technique I have to learn or re-learn or improve upon, but as far as covering somebody, as far as dropping back in zone, I feel I can do it.

Q: So you're very comfortable in dropping into pass coverage?
Lawson: Very. I've been dropping into pass coverages all throughout my years even as a defensive end.

Q: How accomplished of a pass rusher do you feel you are?
Lawson: I'm pretty much still learning. I'm going to always be learning. I feel I have a variety and array of pass rushing moves that I can use and that will work, but if you really want to look at it, I've only been playing defensive end at the collegiate level for two years. So I'm still new to the game.

Q: Would you liken your abilities to anyone currently in the NFL, or is there anyone you model your game after?
Lawson: The guy who I look up to is a guy about my size, my height: Jason Taylor. And another guy is Dwight Freeney, because I wish I had the spin move to where I could keep spinning and spinning and somehow end up at the quarterback. I just can't do it.

Q: Who's the better end, you or Mario Williams?
Lawson: Better end? Better looking is me hands-down. We both have our days. Sometimes I'll end up with a good day and sometimes he'll end up with a good day. I've been rated as an athlete ad he's your prototypical end.

Q: You were voted your team's most valuable defensive lineman the past two seasons. Who votes on that?
Lawson: The team votes, the coaches vote.
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My first two rounds are Lawson and Cedric Griffin, CB from Texas in the 2nd. Herm said the key for CB's is to find a CB's (and players) who fits/fit the system, which is Cover 2. Lawson fits the DE spot to a T, as does Griffin. This is from the Scout.com magazine, typed word for word...

Pos: Physical cornerback with good upside potential. Jams opponents at the line, fluid turning his sips and easily runs downfield with receivers. Quickly breaks to the throw, has a burst of closing speed as well as a hard-hitting style. Active in run defense, attacks opponents and shakes the ball loose with jarring hits.

Neg: Mentally hesitant, slow locating the ball and gives up receptions when he should not. Struggles making plays with his back to the ball.

Analysis: A terrific athlete with good upside, Griffin could start at the next level in the proper system. Best in a zone system or press coverage.
I think Lawson is the perfect fit for us and I really like Cedric Griffin. I walked away from the Senior Bowl wondering why he wasn't getting more props. So did you sit down and watch the Senior Bowl again?

The players that stood out to me from the Senior Bowl where/are
Manny Lawson
D'Brickashaw Ferguson
Gabe Watson
Cedric Griffin
Nick Mangold
DeAngelo Williams
Moss
Chad Jackson

I'm sure they were others, but those are the ones that come to mind.
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Old 04-27-2006, 01:32 PM   #43
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I don't know that you could definitively say that about Lawson. In many ways, Williams benefitted from Lawson's presence too.

The guy that makes this more like the Sims scenario is John McCargo. Lawson is a playmaker in his own right, if you watch the film.

Not worth the risk to me. I'm sure he is a nice player but I'm for going CB unless the good 4-5 are gone.

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Old 04-27-2006, 01:43 PM   #44
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So did you sit down and watch the Senior Bowl again?
Not yet!

Watched the Royals actually win a game instead that night. Maybe watch a bit Friday night.

Another player who impressed me was a small CB from Georgia. Tim Jennings. You could see the QB's look his way, and always look for another WR. Makes me think he had good coverage on his side, because they never threw there. Could be a good 5th rounder if he is still there.
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I think Lawson is the perfect fit for us and I really like Cedric Griffin. I walked away from the Senior Bowl wondering why he wasn't getting more props. So did you sit down and watch the Senior Bowl again?
Why?

He made one great play, but aside from that, there's not much to "scout" him on, given that the camera is never on him.

Trying to evaluate a corner from TV angles is pointless.
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