Fallen Angel (religion lovers beware) - Grinning

[Logical]

I was at the movies today and saw a preview for a new TV series that I believe it said will be called something like "Fallen Angel"

I deeply hope it is a storyline based on the evils of organized religion. That would be truly sweet and I bet would have both a huge following and the RRWNJs writing letters and emails till their fingers fell off.

Anybody seen this preview and know the exact name and what network it will be on?

I am imagining a story with a fallen angel who lead different organized religious groups over the ages in horrors perpetrated by organized religions against mankind. Present day Muslim terrorists, Irish Republican Catholics, Catholic Priests against young boys, Nuns over the ages against victimized orphans and students, the Crusades. Well you get the idea. There would be a set of characters who are reincarnated in the different times to fight and eventually the defeat the evils of organized religion.

[Logical]

Originally Posted by SNR

Not to shit on your thread, Jim, but shit happens anytime you get a group of people united under one epistemological belief. Not just religion, but anti-religion as well, including fascism of ALL types, not just nazism. And let's not forget the Stalinist USSR. These were far from theocracies, but as far as argument is concerned, their uniting beliefs did as much, if not more damage than many cases of religious terror throughout history. They may as well have been an extremist theocracy

There is much truth in what you say, it is group think in action.

[Imon Yourside]

Common Sense is something to behold, and something severely lacking in the now. You could always worship Nambla?

[Moooo]

Originally Posted by SNR

Not to shit on your thread, Jim, but shit happens anytime you get a group of people united under one epistemological belief. Not just religion, but anti-religion as well, including fascism of ALL types, not just nazism. And let's not forget the Stalinist USSR. These were far from theocracies, but as far as argument is concerned, their uniting beliefs did as much, if not more damage than many cases of religious terror throughout history. They may as well have been an extremist theocracy

I wasn't going to say anything, but I will now.

There was a psychologist whose name escapes me at 2 am, but nonetheless he did a scale of the thought processes of the human mind in their level of comprehension of life and the such. His results came back that only 1 out of 10 people in his study thought at a level where they questioned why certain laws were legal or to put what is morally right above the function of society. That's right, only 1 out of 10.

So organizations such as this serve a good purpose for many. As one of those 1, Logical, you probably see it as hindering to finding your true self, and consequently the way to be truely right with God, but for those other 9, it serves as a purposeful tool for those who don't bother to question why.

Moooo

[Logical]

Originally Posted by Moooo

I wasn't going to say anything, but I will now.

There was a psychologist whose name escapes me at 2 am, but nonetheless he did a scale of the thought processes of the human mind in their level of comprehension of life and the such. His results came back that only 1 out of 10 people in his study thought at a level where they questioned why certain laws were legal or to put what is morally right above the function of society. That's right, only 1 out of 10.

So organizations such as this serve a good purpose for many. As one of those 1, Logical, you probably see it as hindering to finding your true self, and consequently the way to be truely right with God, but for those other 9, it serves as a purposeful tool for those who don't bother to question why.

Moooo

That is truly interesting, if you remember the psychologist name in the future. Please pass it along in a Private Message. I would probably try to find and read some of his work.

Thanks in advance if you do remember.

[Logical]

Originally Posted by Chico Diablo

good = Jesus
Jesus = right
right = conservativism
Jesus = conservative
conservatives = good

No reason for the Republicans to leave the conservative values that they're supposed to have.

This is just silly.

[tommykat]

Jim, you are evil and must die! Can't find a wink for that...heehee

[Logical]

Originally Posted by tommykat

Jim, you are evil and must die! Can't find a wink for that...heehee

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by Logical

Irish Republican Catholics,

You forgot Belfast Protestants and Protestant Dispensationalists who support all out war in the ME for religious reasons ( end times prophecy requires defending Israel at all costs to them)

You might also add, those who feel Big Govt is a religion, anorganized one in order to correct the people's behavior particularly regarding other groups of people they won't associate with freely. In order to enforce this there is the threat of jail, a fine or both. This would be the Progressives and other socialists. Afterall, govt is their religion it just replaces a church. They do their acts of charity and good under this.

You might also separate what a religion actually professes to believe and show the proportion that does not practice those beliefs too whether organized or not, human nature being what it is.

[Logical]

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

You forgot Belfast Protestants and Protestant Dispensationalists who support all out war in the ME for religious reasons ( end times prophecy requires defending Israel at all costs to them)

You might also add, those who feel Big Govt is a religion, anorganized one in order to correct the people's behavior particularly regarding other groups of people they won't associate with freely. In order to enforce this there is the threat of jail, a fine or both. This would be the Progressives and other socialists. Afterall, govt is their religion it just replaces a church. They do their acts of charity and good under this.

You might also separate what a religion actually professes to believe and show the proportion that does not practice those beliefs too whether organized or not, human nature being what it is.

Though I understand your point, it does not quite fit the plot line I envisioned.

[Sully]

Originally Posted by Moooo

I wasn't going to say anything, but I will now.

There was a psychologist whose name escapes me at 2 am, but nonetheless he did a scale of the thought processes of the human mind in their level of comprehension of life and the such. His results came back that only 1 out of 10 people in his study thought at a level where they questioned why certain laws were legal or to put what is morally right above the function of society. That's right, only 1 out of 10.

So organizations such as this serve a good purpose for many. As one of those 1, Logical, you probably see it as hindering to finding your true self, and consequently the way to be truely right with God, but for those other 9, it serves as a purposeful tool for those who don't bother to question why.

Moooo

This study is based off of Kohlberg's levels of Moral Development. There are three levels, each with two stages. According to studies of the theory, most people never reach the third level, postconventional reasoning.

[Jilly]

I think folks who don't believe in organized religion just haven't found the right one. It's not that I believe you can't find God without Church, or Allah without a Mosque, I believe you can....but what I believe is that when folks get it right in a church, etc (meaning that they understand how much they fail and that everyone within it fails, and this is a separate topic)...it can be a place that is freeing and a place that is full of much growth for one's faith system. I don't think folks who believe against organized religion, really understand the concept to begin with. It isn't about telling someone what they should or shouldn't believe (although many organized religions have gotten this wrong over and over again), it's about providing a safe space for people to explore and be supported in that exploration. At least, it should be.