Law & Surtain: The Best CB Tandem in the League? - Page 3

**Mr. Kotter** · 04:09 PM

(Since it's all but "official". http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/15106482.htm )

Law & Surtain: The Best CB Tandem in the League?

That would have definitely been true 2-3 years ago.

Is it still true?

I don't know. If they are both healthy, and have "gas left in the tank" then I think they could be...

Even if they are healthy, and ready to play though, I'm not sure they will live up to their billing, UNLESS Sims and the DTs pick it up with more pressure from the inside. AND they get help from our safeties.

Otherwise they could become the two most overpaid "older" CBs in the league.

Here's hoping that Sims and Wesley (along with Edwards, Junior, and Pollard--not to mention Hali) can make a difference.

Garcia Bronco · 07-23-2006, 05:08 PM

Unless one's name is Champ or Deangelo...forget it.

Jim Jones · 07-23-2006, 05:09 PM

Not even close. Surtain is still really good, Law is decent, but both are livng more off their names now than actual talent. Law got burnt a lot last year and led ALL Cornerbacks in Pass Interference penalties.

Basileus777 · 07-23-2006, 05:11 PM

McCalister + Rolle or Lucas + Gamble are the best.

keg in kc · 07-23-2006, 05:13 PM

Ask this question again in, say, October, when we'll have something to base an answer on.

**Mr. Kotter** · 07-23-2006, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Jones

Not even close. Surtain is still really good, Law is decent, but both are livng more off their names now than actual talent. Law got burnt a lot last year and led ALL Cornerbacks in Pass Interference penalties.

A healthy Law, with some players around him (Allen, DJ, Kawika, Hali, Knight, and maybe Sims)....will return him to an elite level, IMO. Herm, obviously, still thinks he can play.

I suspect those penalties last year, were in part....the lack of help he had on Defense, along with he wasn't 100% physically. I realize his name carries some weight, but if Edwards is on the bandwagon....so am I.

ChiefFan31 · 07-23-2006, 05:18 PM

Law and Surtain could be the # 1 CB tandem in the NFL

But could we please please please get some better Safety play this year so we dont have to play the corners twenty five yards off the LOS

KChiefs1 · 07-23-2006, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

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tk13 · 07-23-2006, 05:21 PM

Lito Sheppard and Sheldon Brown of the Eagles probably belong in the discussion. I don't think I'd rank them the best but they're probably up there with some of the names that get more press. They usually have a lot of pressure put on them because the Eagles blitz so much.

**Mr. Kotter** · 07-23-2006, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Lito Sheppard and Sheldon Brown of the Eagles probably belong in the discussion. I don't think I'd rank them the best but they're probably up there with some of the names that get more press. They usually have a lot of pressure put on them because the Eagles blitz so much.

Yup, Philly's CBs along with Carolina's....and maybe Minnesota's definitely belong in the discussion.

**the Talking Can** · 07-23-2006, 05:25 PM

we're happy...but think how happy Roaf and Shields are...we're loading up for their last year...this will great for team morale, imho, and leadership in the locker room as Law definetly walks the walk...and doesn't carry a Gucci man purse...

**banyon** · 07-23-2006, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Jones

Not even close. Surtain is still really good, Law is decent, but both are livng more off their names now than actual talent. Law got burnt a lot last year and led ALL Cornerbacks in Pass Interference penalties.

did you forget a stat?

Wile_E_Coyote · 07-23-2006, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

we're happy...but think how happy Roaf and Shields are...we're loading up for their last year...this will great for team morale, imho, and leadership in the locker room as Law definetly walks the walk...and doesn't carry a Gucci man purse...

CoMoChief · 07-23-2006, 05:35 PM

I still wish that we would've signed Rocky Benard. Then we really wouldnt have a hole on defense.

Jim Jones · 07-23-2006, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by banyon

did you forget a stat?

And do you think Deltha O'Neal is the best CB in the league? INT stats are way overrated.

58-4ever · 07-23-2006, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BSPimpDude

I still wish that we would've signed Rocky Benard. Then we really wouldnt have a hole on defense.

I'm pretty sure we offered Bernard the most money. He wanted to go back to Seattle.

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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1887500	Lito Sheppard and Sheldon Brown of the Eagles probably belong in the discussion. I don't think I'd rank them the best but they're probably up there with some of the names that get more press. They usually have a lot of pressure put on them because the Eagles blitz so much.
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