Rookie Safeties.....Starters? - Page 3

hypersensitiveZO6 · 08-07-2006, 08:46 PM

I watched Pollard and Page in camp and have been hearing all the hype about these guys. They both have a nose for the ball and seem to be making improvements everyday in camp. They aren't any questions about drafting these guys now. I even had an encounter with Pollard at camp, and he was the nicest guy to me.

Me: "Are we going see some big hits this year?"

Bonecrusher: "Ohh yeah, (huge smile on his face) most definitely it's going happen."

Then I told him he looked forward to seeing him play and he thanked me.

These are the classy guys that end up being superstars.

I know you might not like the idea of two rookies in the secondary, but the safeties we have now may not perform, or may not keep up.

I'm not saying right off, but these guys look like the future of our safeties, and the future could come sooner than expected, IMO.

So........Could Pollard and Page start this year? If yes, when?

tk13 · 08-07-2006, 10:20 PM

To be fair, both Wesley and Woods were pretty good in 2003.

hypersensitiveZO6 · 08-07-2006, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

To be fair, both Wesley and Woods were pretty good in 2003.

I don't understand how that team got so many turnovers.

Is it luck?

CHENZ A! · 08-07-2006, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Wesley and Woods should have both been out of here 3 years ago but Vermiels allegiance to his veterans brought them both back.......

True, but weird at the same time, because Vermiel didn't bring either of those guys in, and as much as he ignored the defensive side of the ball, I'm wondering if those two weren't more of a carl thing seeing as how he drafted them.

Halfcan · 08-07-2006, 10:23 PM

Wesley is a thug bonehead-I have not been impressed with him for several years-he forgot how to hit and takes plays off. Knight did a fine job except getting burned on deep coverage-but did have some big turnovers.

P@P will have to show something in preseason to be starters opening day.

Mecca · 08-07-2006, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

To be fair, both Wesley and Woods were pretty good in 2003.

I don't think you overpay for safeties, you could justify the Wesley one alot more than the Woods one. Woods had broken his leg and was over 30 years old, 2 huge reasons to not pay him but the Chiefs did......

**RealSNR** · 08-07-2006, 10:29 PM

My friend got back from River Falls (he lives nearby, and goes just to see a professional team practice... apparently not a Chiefs fan, just a fan of the game). From his reports, Page is looking like the best safety on our roster, and it's not at all out of the question that he start. Pollard is as good as the reports say, and it's not out of the question that he start as well.

I'd be just fine with this combo. There'd be mistakes, but I've been putting up with mistakes for years now with this defense. May as well have some mistakes blamed on inexperience, and to couple with those mistakes, some amazing plays by great athletes. Oh, and I want to see some ****ing hard hits. More QB crushing safety blitzes, as Gaz would have it

hypersensitiveZO6 · 08-07-2006, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CHENZ A!

True, but weird at the same time, because Vermiel didn't bring either of those guys in, and as much as he ignored the defensive side of the ball, I'm wondering if those two weren't more of a carl thing seeing as how he drafted them.

Any situation can be tied to, or blamed on Carl.

tk13 · 08-07-2006, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I don't think you overpay for safeties, you could justify the Wesley one alot more than the Woods one. Woods had broken his leg and was over 30 years old, 2 huge reasons to not pay him but the Chiefs did......

Yeah, you're probably right. But Carl takes care of his guys usually... plus Gunther was coming back and they were both Gunther guys as well.

teedubya · 08-07-2006, 10:34 PM

Someone Reserve Pollard a bust in Canton... let the HOF curators know now.

hypersensitiveZO6 · 08-07-2006, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs

Someone Reserve Pollard a bust in Canton... let the HOF curators know now.

I hope so.

After the 3 superbowls and 8 probowls.

**Manila-Chief** · 08-07-2006, 10:42 PM

I think one of them will start in place of Knight. I do not pretend to be an expert but it is just from what I have picked up from reading. I read where Knight got burned and that he is slow. Plus, the 2 young guys seem to like to hit people.

Halfcan · 08-07-2006, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

My friend got back from River Falls (he lives nearby, and goes just to see a professional team practice... apparently not a Chiefs fan, just a fan of the game). From his reports, Page is looking like the best safety on our roster, and it's not at all out of the question that he start. Pollard is as good as the reports say, and it's not out of the question that he start as well.

I'd be just fine with this combo. There'd be mistakes, but I've been putting up with mistakes for years now with this defense. May as well have some mistakes blamed on inexperience, and to couple with those mistakes, some amazing plays by great athletes. Oh, and I want to see some ****ing hard hits. More QB crushing safety blitzes, as Gaz would have it

I agree-more hits. Page sounds like the steal of the entire draft.

Mecca · 08-07-2006, 10:45 PM

You guys are over-doing it with the "hits" stuff. If they like to hit guys fine, but they better have the speed and smarts to know and be in the right positions or it won't make any bit of difference.

Halfcan · 08-07-2006, 11:03 PM

speed and smarts-does not apply to Knight and Gwes

**noa** · 08-07-2006, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

You guys are over-doing it with the "hits" stuff. If they like to hit guys fine, but they better have the speed and smarts to know and be in the right positions or it won't make any bit of difference.

Even if you're more concerned with speed than hits, I think they are guaranteed to be faster than Sammy Knight, so its just a matter of learning where to be at the right time, and Herm should be good at coaching that.

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hypersensitiveZO6 EK Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $10004900	Rookie Safeties.....Starters? I watched Pollard and Page in camp and have been hearing all the hype about these guys. They both have a nose for the ball and seem to be making improvements everyday in camp. They aren't any questions about drafting these guys now. I even had an encounter with Pollard at camp, and he was the nicest guy to me. Me: "Are we going see some big hits this year?" Bonecrusher: "Ohh yeah, (huge smile on his face) most definitely it's going happen." Then I told him he looked forward to seeing him play and he thanked me. These are the classy guys that end up being superstars. I know you might not like the idea of two rookies in the secondary, but the safeties we have now may not perform, or may not keep up. I'm not saying right off, but these guys look like the future of our safeties, and the future could come sooner than expected, IMO. So........Could Pollard and Page start this year? If yes, when?
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Halfcan In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $7327995	Wesley is a thug bonehead-I have not been impressed with him for several years-he forgot how to hit and takes plays off. Knight did a fine job except getting burned on deep coverage-but did have some big turnovers. P@P will have to show something in preseason to be starters opening day.
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teedubya Most Valuable Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $8993042	Someone Reserve Pollard a bust in Canton... let the HOF curators know now.
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Manila-Chief Supporter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Memphis/Miss Casino cash: $10006883	I think one of them will start in place of Knight. I do not pretend to be an expert but it is just from what I have picked up from reading. I read where Knight got burned and that he is slow. Plus, the 2 young guys seem to like to hit people.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-772950	You guys are over-doing it with the "hits" stuff. If they like to hit guys fine, but they better have the speed and smarts to know and be in the right positions or it won't make any bit of difference.
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