I told you they are going after all dogs. - Page 3

BIG_DADDY · 12-13-2006, 12:41 PM

I haven't posted on this for a long time and there is a disturbing new trend amoungst the psycho's who want to go after our dogs. The new trend is to go after all dogs above a certain weight. The newest legislation being proposed is in Benld, IL where they are drafting an ordinance BANNING all dogs over 15 pounds

This is the Mayors office:

201 E Central Ave
Benld, IL 62009, USA
(217) 835-2000
Tom Campbell

In Desoto Texas they want to go after all dogs over 50 lbs.

Be advised that what passes in one Texas city is copied by other cities,
whether it effectively addresses the animal problem or not. It's easy to
just pass another law.

The city of DeSoto, Texas, is holding a Town Hall Meeting on Thursday, December 7th, at 7:00 p.m. to discuss the possibility of banning certain breeds of dogs or banning ownership of all dogs over 50 lbs. Other options include "limiting the number of animals in a specific space."

Texas state law prohibits Breed Specific Legislation (BSL), but we expect
numerous bills to be filed regarding dangerous dogs when the legislature
convenes in January, including another attempt to repeal the existing law.
RPOA defeated such an attempt last legislative session with the help of many
breed clubs. The woman recently in the news who received the face
transplant was attacked by a Labrador Retriever. No breed of dog is
inherently vicious.

City Council Chambers are located at Town Center, 211 E. Pleasant Run Road
(corner of Pleasant Run and Hampton Road, DeSoto, TX 75115).
The city council is interested in hearing all points of view and positions
on this issue and urges everyone to attend this important meeting. For more
information, contact the Action Center at (972) 230-9600.

DeSoto's website says there is a growing concern over aggressive dogs in
their neighborhoods manifested by "dogs running at large without proper ID."
Most severe or fatal dog attacks result from dogs running at large, yet
there is never any mention of strict enforcement of Leash Laws.

Although mandatory spay/neuter is being touted as the solution to all evils
(upon impoundment of loose dogs), it will not stop these attacks if the dogs
are running at large. It's the opposite end of the dog that bites!
Let DeSoto city officials know that their city already has enough laws
(Leash Law, Nuisance Law and Pet Limits). Ask that they be enforced.

Contact Information:
Jim Baugh, City Manager
Phone: (972) 230-9643
Fax: (972) 230-9643
[email protected]

Mayor Michael Hurtt
http://www.ci.desoto.tx.us/mayor.htm

All council members may be emailed with one click at:
www.ci.desoto.tx.us/contact_council.htm.

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Phone: (210) 822-6763
Fax: (210) 822-9038
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This is the new front on the war on dogs taking place in our country. This will be the new approach by animal rights groups such as teh HSUS

I guess Rudi Guiliani is a real big dog legislation guy as well:

If Rudy Guiliani is the president, KISS YOUR PIT BULLS, PIT BULL MIXES AND PIT BULL-LOOKING DOGS GOOD-BYE!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061114/...r/giuliani2008

It's official, he's going for the Presidency in 2008. All other issues aside, Pit Bull owners concerned about BSL should NOT support Guiliani. He has expressly stated that he believes Pit Bulls should be exterminated. He tried to pass a law in NY imposing very strict regulations against Pit Bulls. He has made no secret of the fact that he despises Pit Bulls. He wanted to ELIMINATE HEARINGS on dangerous dogs and let cities DESTROY pets without such a hearing.

http://www.jrn.columbia.edu/studentw...8/pitbull.html

Any politician that advocates ELIMINATING due process HEARINGS for any reason is NO politician that should be President of the United States. Hearings for people accused of committing crimes are a Constitutional Right (and most dangerous dog citations fall under the criminal code against the owner). Rudy Guiliani wants to bypass the United States Constitution and deprive people of their Constitutional Rights.

Sound familiar?

And this time it's not even to allegedly fight TERRORISM. It's because he doesn't like the kind of DOGS some people own.

Scary.

Read more about Guiliani and his views on Pit Bulls

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstra...t%20New%20York

Giuliani Proposes Tough Law on 'Dangerous' Dogs, Angering Owners

*Please Note: Archive articles do not include photos, charts or graphics. More information. January 28, 1999, Thursday

By DAN BARRY (NYT); Metropolitan Desk
Late Edition - Final, Section B, Page 1, Column 2, 933 words

DISPLAYING ABSTRACT - New York City Mayor Giuliani administration trains its quality-of-life sights on city's dogs with bill that would increase fines for harboring dogs deemed to be dangerous, deny dogs any consideration for being provoked into barking or biting, and require owners of pit bulls to obtain $100,000 in liability insurance before being granted dog license

I'm also wondering -- so under his regime, if a serial murderer breaks into your home and tries to kill you, and your dog BITES the would-be killer, your dog is deemed dangerous without a hearing and euthanized?

I don't care who ELSE you support for President, but I urge all dog owners to vote NO to Rudy Guiliani and to spread the word far and wide. We have a year to get the word out to dog lovers everywhere.

Rudy Guiliani cannot be the next President, and it has so much more to do with DOGS. It has to do with basic due process rights afforded by the United States Constitution... rights that separate this country from many others.... Rights that many men and women have died protecting.

**morphius** · 12-13-2006, 01:15 PM

I'm not a dog person, but 15 lbs is ridiculous. Hell, many a cat weighs in at more then that.

chappy · 12-13-2006, 01:17 PM

I say don't ban any dogs just punish the owner for whatever the pet does at large just like you would punish them if they actually did it.

If the owners dog kills a small child waiting at a bus stop for school then the owner goes to trial for murder

Redrum_69 · 12-13-2006, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz

You have lost your burst. It has been ages since one of your little posts has been the least bit entertaining let alone funny. You need to go back to when you would pop in rare occasions.

I'm just trying to get my post count up to 1000 by whatever means necessary

BIG_DADDY · 12-13-2006, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chappy

I say don't ban any dogs just punish the owner for whatever the pet does at large just like you would punish them if they actually did it.

If the owners dog kills a small child waiting at a bus stop for school then the owner goes to trial for murder

Yes, that IS the answer.

Mr. Laz · 12-13-2006, 01:20 PM

jesus .... were you raised by dogs, BD?

BIG_DADDY · 12-13-2006, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

jesus .... were you raised by dogs, BD?

I think you got me and JSP mixed up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Not many people know this about JSP but when he was little his parents gave him a magnifying glass for Christmas. After he used it to burn the family bible he used to burn himself just to feel the pain. Later on he ran away from home and was raised by wolves. Upon returning home he chewed off the head of the family pet. Now he just likes skinning animals alive to hear them scream. You just don't mess with somebody like that. If there is anyone who truly hardcore it's JSP. Personally I think he's unsaveable but hey that's just me. If you try though just remember what I told you. You can't say you weren't warned.

chappy · 12-13-2006, 01:38 PM

Theres no such thing as a Bad Dog just Bad Owners

HonestChieffan · 12-13-2006, 01:43 PM

People who own bad dogs dont kill people. Wait this is not right...

Guns dont kill, people who own guns do.

ok, now dogs...

Dogs dont kill....hmmm yea, sometimes they do...

Dog Owners dont kill, dogs sometimes do... DARN that didnt come out right...

Hmmm, maybe there is something to this bad dog or mean dog or vicious dog thing after all...

Mr. Laz · 12-13-2006, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

I think you got me and JSP mixed up.

Question: if you had a beautiful Dog and a man, who looks to be some kind of bum, sitting in front of you. Each in it's own cage.

10 armed guys surround you, all too far away for you to get your hands on, but close enough for them to shoot you dead.

They hand you a gun with 1 bullet and say "to live you must kill the man or the dog"

what do you do?

**penguinz** · 12-13-2006, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrum_69

I'm just trying to get my post count up to 1000 by whatever means necessary

Why is that? Do you feel having a large post count will make your other inadequacies disappear?

**penguinz** · 12-13-2006, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

Question: if you had a beautiful Dog and a man, who looks to be some kind of bum, sitting in front of you. Each in it's own cage.

10 armed guys surround you, all too far away for you to get your hands on, but close enough for them to shoot you dead.

They hand you a gun with 1 bullet and say "to live you must kill the man or the dog"

what do you do?

How bad does the bum smell?

HonestChieffan · 12-13-2006, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

Question: if you had a beautiful Dog and a man, who looks to be some kind of bum, sitting in front of you. Each in it's own cage.

10 armed guys surround you, all too far away for you to get your hands on, but close enough for them to shoot you dead.

They hand you a gun with 1 bullet and say "to live you must kill the man or the dog"

what do you do?

I'd ask Solari his opinion then I'd punt cause I know the defense is gonna come hard and get the ball back.

wilas101 · 12-13-2006, 01:56 PM

15 pounds? Thats nuts. We have a great dane and I don't think she weighed under 15 lbs at birth.

Her IQ may be 15 but I guess they aren't discriminating against dumb dogs.

King_Chief_Fan · 12-13-2006, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz

You have lost your burst. It has been ages since one of your little posts has been the least bit entertaining let alone funny. You need to go back to when you would pop in rare occasions.

Redrums mom is a dog.........ban her.

Redrum_69 · 12-13-2006, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz

Why is that? Do you feel having a large post count will make your other inadequacies disappear?

No, asshat, I just figured I'd shoot for 1000 posts.

Then when I reach 1k I'll shoot for 10k

Then when I reach 10k I'll shoot for 100k

12-13-2006, 12:41 PM
BIG_DADDY THE RED MENACE Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texas Casino cash: $2558410	I told you they are going after all dogs. I haven't posted on this for a long time and there is a disturbing new trend amoungst the psycho's who want to go after our dogs. The new trend is to go after all dogs above a certain weight. The newest legislation being proposed is in Benld, IL where they are drafting an ordinance BANNING all dogs over 15 pounds This is the Mayors office: 201 E Central Ave Benld, IL 62009, USA (217) 835-2000 Tom Campbell In Desoto Texas they want to go after all dogs over 50 lbs. Be advised that what passes in one Texas city is copied by other cities, whether it effectively addresses the animal problem or not. It's easy to just pass another law. The city of DeSoto, Texas, is holding a Town Hall Meeting on Thursday, December 7th, at 7:00 p.m. to discuss the possibility of banning certain breeds of dogs or banning ownership of all dogs over 50 lbs. Other options include "limiting the number of animals in a specific space." Texas state law prohibits Breed Specific Legislation (BSL), but we expect numerous bills to be filed regarding dangerous dogs when the legislature convenes in January, including another attempt to repeal the existing law. RPOA defeated such an attempt last legislative session with the help of many breed clubs. The woman recently in the news who received the face transplant was attacked by a Labrador Retriever. No breed of dog is inherently vicious. City Council Chambers are located at Town Center, 211 E. Pleasant Run Road (corner of Pleasant Run and Hampton Road, DeSoto, TX 75115). The city council is interested in hearing all points of view and positions on this issue and urges everyone to attend this important meeting. For more information, contact the Action Center at (972) 230-9600. DeSoto's website says there is a growing concern over aggressive dogs in their neighborhoods manifested by "dogs running at large without proper ID." Most severe or fatal dog attacks result from dogs running at large, yet there is never any mention of strict enforcement of Leash Laws. Although mandatory spay/neuter is being touted as the solution to all evils (upon impoundment of loose dogs), it will not stop these attacks if the dogs are running at large. It's the opposite end of the dog that bites! Let DeSoto city officials know that their city already has enough laws (Leash Law, Nuisance Law and Pet Limits). Ask that they be enforced. Contact Information: Jim Baugh, City Manager Phone: (972) 230-9643 Fax: (972) 230-9643 [email protected] Mayor Michael Hurtt http://www.ci.desoto.tx.us/mayor.htm All council members may be emailed with one click at: www.ci.desoto.tx.us/contact_council.htm. Responsible Pet Owners Alliance 900 NE Loop 410 #311-D San Antonio, TX 78209 Phone: (210) 822-6763 Fax: (210) 822-9038 Website: www. responsiblepetowners. org $15 Annual dues (January - December) To share information, subscribe or unsubscribe, send an e-mail message to rpoa @ texas.net. This is the new front on the war on dogs taking place in our country. This will be the new approach by animal rights groups such as teh HSUS I guess Rudi Guiliani is a real big dog legislation guy as well: If Rudy Guiliani is the president, KISS YOUR PIT BULLS, PIT BULL MIXES AND PIT BULL-LOOKING DOGS GOOD-BYE! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061114/...r/giuliani2008 It's official, he's going for the Presidency in 2008. All other issues aside, Pit Bull owners concerned about BSL should NOT support Guiliani. He has expressly stated that he believes Pit Bulls should be exterminated. He tried to pass a law in NY imposing very strict regulations against Pit Bulls. He has made no secret of the fact that he despises Pit Bulls. He wanted to ELIMINATE HEARINGS on dangerous dogs and let cities DESTROY pets without such a hearing. http://www.jrn.columbia.edu/studentw...8/pitbull.html Any politician that advocates ELIMINATING due process HEARINGS for any reason is NO politician that should be President of the United States. Hearings for people accused of committing crimes are a Constitutional Right (and most dangerous dog citations fall under the criminal code against the owner). Rudy Guiliani wants to bypass the United States Constitution and deprive people of their Constitutional Rights. Sound familiar? And this time it's not even to allegedly fight TERRORISM. It's because he doesn't like the kind of DOGS some people own. Scary. Read more about Guiliani and his views on Pit Bulls http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstra...t%20New%20York Giuliani Proposes Tough Law on 'Dangerous' Dogs, Angering Owners Please Note: Archive articles do not include photos, charts or graphics. More information. January 28, 1999, Thursday By DAN BARRY (NYT); Metropolitan Desk Late Edition - Final, Section B, Page 1, Column 2, 933 words DISPLAYING ABSTRACT - New York City Mayor Giuliani administration trains its quality-of-life sights on city's dogs with bill that would increase fines for harboring dogs deemed to be dangerous, deny dogs any consideration for being provoked into barking or biting*, and require owners of pit bulls to obtain $100,000 in liability insurance before being granted dog license I'm also wondering -- so under his regime, if a serial murderer breaks into your home and tries to kill you, and your dog BITES the would-be killer, your dog is deemed dangerous without a hearing and euthanized? I don't care who ELSE you support for President, but I urge all dog owners to vote NO to Rudy Guiliani and to spread the word far and wide. We have a year to get the word out to dog lovers everywhere. Rudy Guiliani cannot be the next President, and it has so much more to do with DOGS. It has to do with basic due process rights afforded by the United States Constitution... rights that separate this country from many others.... Rights that many men and women have died protecting.
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12-13-2006, 01:17 PM	#32
chappy Mey Luv Yu Yong Time!!!! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Wichita Casino cash: $10004900	I say don't ban any dogs just punish the owner for whatever the pet does at large just like you would punish them if they actually did it. If the owners dog kills a small child waiting at a bus stop for school then the owner goes to trial for murder __________________
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12-13-2006, 01:20 PM	#35
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	jesus .... were you raised by dogs, BD? __________________
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12-13-2006, 01:38 PM	#37
chappy Mey Luv Yu Yong Time!!!! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Wichita Casino cash: $10004900	Theres no such thing as a Bad Dog just Bad Owners __________________
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12-13-2006, 01:43 PM	#38
HonestChieffan Seeking the Truth daily Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the Country in MO Casino cash: $-1585691	People who own bad dogs dont kill people. Wait this is not right... Guns dont kill, people who own guns do. ok, now dogs... Dogs dont kill....hmmm yea, sometimes they do... Dog Owners dont kill, dogs sometimes do... DARN that didnt come out right... Hmmm, maybe there is something to this bad dog or mean dog or vicious dog thing after all... __________________ "We read books for knowledge; We read the Bible for wisdom!"
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12-13-2006, 01:15 PM	#31
morphius World's finest morphius Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $5735027	I'm not a dog person, but 15 lbs is ridiculous. Hell, many a cat weighs in at more then that.
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12-13-2006, 01:56 PM	#43
wilas101 Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Casino cash: $6219487	15 pounds? Thats nuts. We have a great dane and I don't think she weighed under 15 lbs at birth. Her IQ may be 15 but I guess they aren't discriminating against dumb dogs.
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