Should Merriman be a probowler?

[Drunk]

Originally Posted by boogblaster

No here..altho he probably isnt the only player there cheating...

Do your homework before you start spewing all kinds of nonsense like "He's on Roids" or "He cheated".

There was a small amount of Nandrolone found in his system. If you do some research on the world of supplements, you'll find that many supplements go unchecked in regards to whats actually in them. Its not like he was sticking needles in his ass or something. He was using the same supplement since training camp and was tested several times BEFORE AND AFTER he tested positive. Both came out negative.

The NFL has a no tolerance policy and furnishes a list of approved supplements. Anyone who chooses to go elsewhere does so AT THEIR OWN RISK. For this he is guilty and deserves the suspension. There is no denying his god given abilities however. He will finish atop the league sack leaders at the end of the season even after missing 4 games.

The San Diego Chargers put out a statement giving Merriman their FULL SUPPORT along with his teamates. Do you thing the org. would further taint their name if they didnt believe him.

Furthermore, the COACHES, FANS, AND PLAYERS voted Merriman in. What does that tell you? (I expect a barrage of smart ass remarks with this question, I wont be surprised)

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Drunk

The San Diego Chargers put out a statement giving Merriman their FULL SUPPORT along with his teamates. Do you thing the org. would further taint their name if they didnt believe him?

Yeah.

No player who has been suspended should be honored with a pro bowl selection. It should go to players who don't cheat.

[Drunk]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Yeah.

No player who has been suspended should be honored with a pro bowl selection. It should go to players who don't cheat.

Do your homework before you start spewing all kinds of nonsense like "He's on Roids" or "He cheated".

There was a small amount of Nandrolone found in his system. If you do some research on the world of supplements, you'll find that many supplements go unchecked in regards to whats actually in them. Its not like he was sticking needles in his ass or something. He was using the same supplement since training camp and was tested several times BEFORE AND AFTER he tested positive. Both came out negative.

The NFL has a no tolerance policy and furnishes a list of approved supplements. Anyone who chooses to go elsewhere does so AT THEIR OWN RISK. For this he is guilty and deserves the suspension. There is no denying his god given abilities however. He will finish atop the league sack leaders at the end of the season even after missing 4 games.

The San Diego Chargers put out a statement giving Merriman their FULL SUPPORT along with his teamates. Do you thing the org. would further taint their name if they didnt believe him.

Furthermore, the COACHES, FANS, AND PLAYERS voted Merriman in. What does that tell you? (I expect a barrage of smart ass remarks with this question, I wont be surprised)

[Halfcan]

[QUOTE=Drunk]Do your homework before you start spewing all kinds of nonsense like "He's on Roids" or "He cheated". )





Nobody is buying that lame excuse-I bet you think Bonds didn't know what he was taking either. Go rub some Linseed oil on your pecker and quit making stoopid post.

[trndobrd]

Originally Posted by Drunk

Do your homework before you start spewing all kinds of nonsense like "He's on Roids" or "He cheated".

There was a small amount of Nandrolone found in his system. If you do some research on the world of supplements, you'll find that many supplements go unchecked in regards to whats actually in them. Its not like he was sticking needles in his ass or something. He was using the same supplement since training camp and was tested several times BEFORE AND AFTER he tested positive. Both came out negative.

The NFL has a no tolerance policy and furnishes a list of approved supplements. Anyone who chooses to go elsewhere does so AT THEIR OWN RISK. For this he is guilty and deserves the suspension. There is no denying his god given abilities however. He will finish atop the league sack leaders at the end of the season even after missing 4 games.

The San Diego Chargers put out a statement giving Merriman their FULL SUPPORT along with his teamates. Do you thing the org. would further taint their name if they didnt believe him.

Furthermore, the COACHES, FANS, AND PLAYERS voted Merriman in. What does that tell you? (I expect a barrage of smart ass remarks with this question, I wont be surprised)

Nadrolone IS an anabolic steroid. So...Merriman was "on 'roids". Nadrolone helps increase both muscle growth and red bloodcell production. Essentially, giving Mr. Merriman a leg up on the competition. (also known as 'cheating')

Many supplement products on the market today do not go through the stringent FDA testing required for other drugs. However, each NFL team makes available to it's players all legal dietary supplements from approved sources. There is no reason Mr. Merriman would need to obtain supplements from non-NFL approved sources. In fact, using supplements from sources other than team trainers in a violation of NFL policy.

Regardless, Nadrolone availability is only 2.24% when taken orally. Thus 97.76% of the trace amount ingested in a tainted batch of creatine powder or whatever they mystery supplement was (assuming for sake of argument that a schedule III controlled substance would some how end up in a legal nutritional supplement during the manufacturing process) would simply pass through Mr. Merriman's system, unused. Nadrolone itself is not detectable in urine, rather it is the byproduct of Nadrolone's metabolization that is detected in urine tests. Injection of Nadrolone provides 100% availability....even injections in the ass.

Strangely enough, after Mr. Merriman used non-NFL approved supplements which he claims were somehow tainted, he dropped his appeal. Even more astounding, he refused to reveal the type or manufacturer of said supplement...leaving the public at risk to tainted supplements.

Merriman got caught with an anabolic steroids in his system. His excuse is ridiculous. He cheated, he got caught. He should not be in the pro-bowl.

[Drunk]

Nadrolone IS an anabolic steroid. So...Merriman was "on 'roids". Nadrolone helps increase both muscle growth and red bloodcell production. Essentially, giving Mr. Merriman a leg up on the competition. (also known as 'cheating')

The key word is WAS. People act as if he has been and still has Nandrolone in his system. He was tested several times before AND after the dirty sample. All times Negative. I am not disputing the fact that it is a steroid.

Many supplement products on the market today do not go through the stringent FDA testing required for other drugs. However, each NFL team makes available to it's players all legal dietary supplements from approved sources. There is no reason Mr. Merriman would need to obtain supplements from non-NFL approved sources.

AGREED.

Regardless, Nadrolone availability is only 2.24% when taken orally. Thus 97.76% of the trace amount ingested in a tainted batch of creatine powder or whatever they mystery supplement was (assuming for sake of argument that a schedule III controlled substance would some how end up in a legal nutritional supplement during the manufacturing process) would simply pass through Mr. Merriman's system, unused. Nadrolone itself is not detectable in urine, rather it is the byproduct of Nadrolone's metabolization that is detected in urine tests. Injection of Nadrolone provides 100% availability....even injections in the ass.

I dont know enough about the process to comment, but I have read various debates and disputes about exactly what you are talking about. I will try to dig some up.


Strangely enough, after Mr. Merriman used non-NFL approved supplements which he claims were somehow tainted, he dropped his appeal. Even more astounding, he refused to reveal the type or manufacturer of said supplement...leaving the public at risk to tainted supplements.

He dropped his appeal for the good of the team. Everyone knew that if his appeal dragged on, he would miss both Denver games. The reason he did not supply the name is because he is supposedly sueing the company.


Merriman got caught with an anabolic steroids in his system. His excuse is ridiculous. He cheated, he got caught. He should not be in the pro-bowl.

Obviously many Fans, Coaches, and Fellow players feel differently. Or know something we dont....

[Drunk]

Originally Posted by boogblaster

No here..altho he probably isnt the only player there cheating...

Anybody who knows anything about the "inside" world of sports knows this. Im not advocating it, but if someone really wanted to "cheat" by using steroids, there are numerous ways to do this. Even though they can test you at any given time. Yet another example of why this story is a bit fishy.


NOTE:
I quoted the wrong post in my previous post above, sorry boogblaster.

[GROB]

When it was reported on ESPN that Merriman was suspended, I'll bet everyone knew what his excuse would be.

[Halfcan]

Roid boy should not have made the Probowl-what a joke.

[BWillie]

It's a pretty fair assessment that the NFL obviously doesn't care if their players cheat or not. If you are suspended in the year for cheating, they should make a rule so that in no way shape or form can you go to the Pro Bowl. I don't think Merriman should go to the Pro Bowl, not because he did roids, but because he cheated. I could care less if he did roids. How come people freak out when shitty MLB guys like Jason Grimsley get busted for roids but in the NFL one of the best linebackers in the game gets busted and nobody cares?

[Drunk]

Originally Posted by BWillie007

It's a pretty fair assessment that the NFL obviously doesn't care if their players cheat or not. If you are suspended in the year for cheating, they should make a rule so that in no way shape or form can you go to the Pro Bowl. I don't think Merriman should go to the Pro Bowl, not because he did roids, but because he cheated. I could care less if he did roids. How come people freak out when shitty MLB guys like Jason Grimsley get busted for roids but in the NFL one of the best linebackers in the game gets busted and nobody cares?

Your statement makes absolutely no sense. How did he cheat in your eyes then?

You dont care if he used a supplement that contained a banned substance, yet you care he "cheated"? explain that one.

[Mecca]

Actually, he's right there's alot of stuff in supplements that isn't listed.

[Drunk]

Nobody is buying that lame excuse-

Obviously many athletes and coaches "bought that excuse" or he wouldnt be going to the Pro Bowl.


Go rub some Linseed oil on your pecker

???Wow, you got problems man. Dont want to even ponder at what you do in your free time


and quit making stoopid post.

At least spell stoopid right if your going to call someone that.

[Drunk]

At first I was also very skeptical about his story. (I didnt express my opinions or throw him under the bus yet like may people including charger fans did) After reading a lot more into it, I will only say that I will at least give him the benefit of the doubt now. Details are still sketchy because he is sueing the company, but more info will surface.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by Drunk

At first I was also very skeptical about his story. (I didnt express my opinions or throw him under the bus yet like may people including charger fans did) After reading a lot more into it, I will only say that I will at least give him the benefit of the doubt now. Details are still sketchy because he is sueing the company, but more info will surface.

Lucky, the details of you being a Moron for believing such shit-is not sketchy at all.