Is James Cameron the anti-christ? - Page 3

**007** · 02-26-2007, 11:40 PM

As per Glen Beck.

http://time-blog.com/middle_east/200...the_crypt.html

February 23, 2007 6:55
Jesus: Tales from the Crypt
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Brace yourself. James Cameron, the man who brought you 'The Titanic' is back with another blockbuster. This time, the ship he's sinking is Christianity.

In a new documentary, Producer Cameron and his director, Simcha Jacobovici, make the starting claim that Jesus wasn't resurrected --the cornerstone of Christian faith-- and that his burial cave was discovered near Jerusalem. And, get this, Jesus sired a son with Mary Magdelene.

No, it's not a re-make of "The Da Vinci Codes'. It's supposed to be true.

Let's go back 27 years, when Israeli construction workers were gouging out the foundations for a new building in the industrial park in the Talpiyot, a Jerusalem suburb. of Jerusalem. The earth gave way, revealing a 2,000 year old cave with 10 stone caskets. Archologists were summoned, and the stone caskets carted away for examination. It took 20 years for experts to decipher the names on the ten tombs. They were: Jesua, son of Joseph, Mary, Mary, Mathew, Jofa and Judah, son of Jesua.
Israel's prominent archeologist Professor Amos Kloner didn't associate the crypt with the New Testament Jesus. His father, after all, was a humble carpenter who couldn't afford a luxury crypt for his family. And all were common Jewish names.

There was also this little inconvenience that a few miles away, in the old city of Jerusalem, Christians for centuries had been worshipping the empty tomb of Christ at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. Christ's resurrection, after all, is the main foundation of the faith, proof that a boy born to a carpenter's wife in a manger is the Son of God.

But film-makers Cameron and Jacobovici claim to have amassed evidence through DNA tests, archeological evidence and Biblical studies, that the 10 coffins belong to Jesus and his family.

Ever the showman, (Why does this remind me of the impresario in another movie,"King Kong", whose hubris blinds him to the dangers of an angry and very large ape?) Cameron is holding a New York press conference on Monday at which he will reveal three coffins, supposedly those of Jesus of Nazareth, his mother Mary and Mary Magdalene. News about the film, which will be shown soon on Discovery Channel, Britain's Channel 4, Canada's Vision, and Israel's Channel 8, has been a hot blog topic in the Middle East (check out a personal favorite: Israelity Bites) Here in the Holy Land, Biblical Archeology is a dangerous profession. This 90-minute documentary is bound to outrage Christians and stir up a titanic debate between believers and skeptics. Stay tuned.
--Tim McGirk/Jerusalem

**007** · 02-27-2007, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Amazing you people haven't discovered this on your own yet.

And if you did, shame on you for not posting it.

http://www.philhendrieshow.com/Radio/Video.aspx

Never heard of him. Who is he and what does he have to say. Are his weblogs safe for work?

KCWolfman · 02-27-2007, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by greg63

Excellent question.

They will have some schmuck claim to be an offshoot decendant of Jesus and his DNA will be about 70% similar to the body found - I am betting that will be their "proof".

Also note that "coffins" weren't used for the poor in the Middle East during the time of Christ. Ossuaries were used for the affluent Jews. Their bones were allowed to decompose and their remains were put in small stone boxes, only about 1 foot by 2 foot. The ossuary was then put in a tomb. Christ's family could have never afforded such a luxury. The only one who MAY have been entombed in an ossuary years after his death was Jesus' brother James, who died several years after Christ. - if it was James, then it was afforded only by the charity of the stonecarver or the person who owned the tomb.

An ossuary was found several years ago inscribed "James, brother of Jesus and son of Joseph". The ossuary was the only one of the Joseph and Mary family ever substantiated. It was done in 2002. However, there is a great deal of controversy around that discovery today. The man who owns the ossuary today is Oded Golan, a disreputable collector who has a history of archealogical forgeries surrounding his past.

The interesting paradox with the story is, if you truly want to believe that the ossuary belongs to a family member of Jesus, you have to admit that Jesus is a definitive past living member of the human race.

Cameron has done nothing but attached his name as a producer to a couple of bad documentaries and the horrid failure Solaris over the last decade - he is merely doing what he can to make a buck.

greg63 · 02-27-2007, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman

They will have some schmuck claim to be an offshoot decendant of Jesus and his DNA will be about 70% similar to the body found - I am betting that will be their "proof".

Also note that "coffins" weren't used for the poor in the Middle East during the time of Christ. Ossuaries were used for the affluent Jews. Their bones were allowed to decompose and their remains were put in small stone boxes, only about 1 foot by 2 foot. The ossuary was then put in a tomb. Christ's family could have never afforded such a luxury. The only one who MAY have been entombed in an ossuary years after his death was Jesus' brother James, who died several years after Christ. - if it was James, then it was afforded only by the charity of the stonecarver or the person who owned the tomb.

An ossuary was found several years ago inscribed "James, brother of Jesus and son of Joseph". The ossuary was the only one of the Joseph and Mary family ever substantiated. It was done in 2002. However, there is a great deal of controversy around that discovery today. The man who owns the ossuary today is Oded Golan, a disreputable collector who has a history of archealogical forgeries surrounding his past.

The interesting paradox with the story is, if you truly want to believe that the ossuary belongs to a family member of Jesus, you have to admit that Jesus is a definitive past living member of the human race.

Cameron has done nothing but attached his name as a producer to a couple of bad documentaries and the horrid failure Solaris over the last decade - he is merely doing what he can to make a buck.

Yeah, I heard on the news that one of the main aspects he is basing these wild assumptions on is the fact that the tomb had the names Jesus, Mary and Joseph in it; nothing common about those names in that part of the world in that time.

FAX · 02-27-2007, 01:06 AM

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Halfcan · 02-27-2007, 01:36 AM

Actually, he would be the 3rd Anti Christ behind Napolean and Hitler.

Halfcan · 02-27-2007, 01:40 AM

Why doesn't Cameron go after an easier target to dispute-like the Mormons-lol

It worked for SouthPark.

Pants · 02-27-2007, 02:45 AM

He's not debunking a religion. He's debunking a fairy tale that's considered a fact by a lot of people. Of course it's bound to piss them off. Shit, I was pissed when I found out the Santa wasn't real too.

oaklandhater · 02-27-2007, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

James Cameron is a badass.

george lucas would be the antichrist of movies since he killed Starwars and E.T and now has his sights on indiana jones.

oaklandhater · 02-27-2007, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

He's not debunking a religion. He's debunking a fairy tale that's considered a fact by a lot of people. Of course it's bound to piss them off. Shit, I was pissed when I found out the Santa wasn't real too.

Does it piss you off so much that ppl believe in god.

**007** · 02-27-2007, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

He's not debunking a religion. He's debunking a fairy tale that's considered a fact by a lot of people. Of course it's bound to piss them off. Shit, I was pissed when I found out the Santa wasn't real too.

Everyone needs to believe what they want. Does it really serve a purpose to call someones religion a fairy tale though?

oaklandhater · 02-27-2007, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru

Everyone needs to believe what they want. Does it really serve a purpose to call someones religion a fairy tale though?

agree 100%

+++REP

Believe_Me · 02-27-2007, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Does it piss you off so much that ppl believe in god.

Yes it does, here!

I tried to warn them but they are heathens and banned me?

Go Figure...

But a ban will not keep the Lords word down, or me either..........

Pants · 02-27-2007, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Does it piss you off so much that ppl believe in god.

I believe in a greater power/god/whatever you want to call it, but I am not religious. You see, I never needed the concept of religion to understand what is morally wrong and right. And anyway, 99% of the religious people are hypocrites (1% being the truly devoted monks who just pray all day and live the simplest life possible in some monastery).

But yeah, religious people do piss me off, they ruin the world for everyone, always have and always will.

And I'm sorry, but I like I said, I don't believe in fairy tales - a category into which resurrection falls. And I don't mean to offend you, it's just what I believe.

oaklandhater · 02-27-2007, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

I believe in a greater power/god/whatever you want to call it, but I am not religious. You see, I never needed the concept of religion to understand what is morally wrong and right. And anyway, 99% of the religious people are hypocrites (1% being the truly devoted monks who just pray all day and live the simplest life possible in some monastery).

But yeah, religious people do piss me off, they ruin the world for everyone, always have and always will.

And I'm sorry, but I like I said, I don't believe in fairy tales - a category into which resurrection falls. And I don't mean to offend you, it's just what I believe.

I dont see why you Care what ppl do with there own personal shit.

So when Dieing ppl Find religion you automatically think of them has hypocrites?

Believe_Me · 02-27-2007, 03:33 AM

See above post you sinner!

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