Researchers Cure AIDS... not a joke. - Page 3

**jAZ** · 10-23-2007, 06:19 PM

If I understand this correctly, they've basically cured AIDS by allowing HIV positive people to have full immune systems.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1020103343.htm

Researchers Knock Out HIV

ScienceDaily (Oct. 21, 2007) — With the latest advances in treatment, doctors have discovered that they can successfully neutralise the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV). The so-called ‘combination therapy’ prevents HIV from mutating and spreading, allowing patients to rebuild their immune system to the same levels as the rest of the population.

To date, it represents the most significant treatment for patients suffering from HIV.

Professor Jens Lundgren from the University of Copenhagen, together with other members of the research group EuroSIDA, have conducted a study, which demonstrates that the immune system of all HIV-infected patients can be restored and normalised. The only stipulation is that patients begin and continue to follow their course of treatment.

HIV attacks the body’s ability to counteract viruses

Viruses are small organisms that have no independent metabolism. Consequently, when they enter the body they attack living cells and adopt their metabolism. The influenza virus occupies cells in the nose, throat and lungs; the mumps attaches itself to the salivary glands of the ear; while the Polio virus plays on the intestinal tract, blood and salivary glands. In all these instances, our immune system attacks and eliminates the invading virus.

HIV is so deadly because the virus attaches itself to a crucial part of the immune system itself: to the so-called CD4+T lymphocytes, which are white blood corpuscles that help the immune system to fight infections. The Hi-virus forms and invades new CD4+T-lymphocytes. Slowly but surely, the number of healthy CD4+T lymphocytes in the blood fall, while HIV relentlessly weakens the body’s ability to defend itself from infection. Finally, the immune system erodes to such an extent that the infected patient is diagnosed with AIDS. The Hi-virus mutates constantly as it forms and this is why, scientists face a constant battle to find a cure or a vaccine.

Combination therapy knocks out HIV

Combination therapy prevents the virus from forming and mutating in human beings. When the virus is halted in its progress, the number of healthy CD4+T cells begins to rise and patients, who would otherwise die from HIV, can now survive. The immune system is rejuvenated and is apparently able to normalise itself, providing that the combination therapy is maintained. The moment the immune system begins to improve, the HIV-infected patient can no longer be said to be suffering from an HIV infection or disease, already declining in strength.

Findings from the study are published in the medical journal The Lancet - Vol. 370, Issue 9585, 4 August 2007, Pages 407-413

Adapted from materials provided by University Of Copenhagen.

JohninGpt · 10-23-2007, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

Man, oh man. I'm very sorry to hear about this, Mr. JohninGpt. Very sorry, indeed.

The treatment makes sense given what they know about auto-immune, though. They're shutting down the immune system which is reacting incorrectly to some influence. It would be wonderful if they could turn that around, identify the cause that is affecting the immune system, and address that instead. There's always hope, though, and advances like this might open the door to a true cure.

Meanwhile, here's to your health, my friend.

FAX

Thanks, but, like I said, I'm doing pretty good. I just wish I could could get off the damn steroids, these things are porkin me out.

**Bob Dole** · 10-23-2007, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jAZ

HIV is the virus. It's not a cure for HIV. It's a cure for the condition of AIDS, which used to be a certain outcome of contracting HIV.

Which has been curable for quite awhile now. Bob Dole isn't understanding how this is groundbreaking.

**Donger** · 10-23-2007, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by QuikSsurfer

not funny. especially if you've known someone die like that.

I have had a family member die from AIDS caused by being a heroin junkie.

I had (and have) very little sympathy for him. HIV isn't exactly a highly contagious virus. You have to seek it out through stupid and risky behavior, barring transfusions and the like.

chagrin · 10-23-2007, 07:26 PM

Don't you think you should change the title of this thread dude, you know, to keep your credibility? shakes head...

**QuikSsurfer** · 10-23-2007, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

Sometimes, I post without thinking first. I need to work on that.

But honestly, Mr. QuikSsurfer, I have mixed feelings about a person who uses a dirty needle.

FAX

same here and I tend to post like that too.
wasn't trying to come down on you specifically. like u, just posted it after i read it.

JohninGpt · 10-23-2007, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

Which has been curable for quite awhile now. Bob Dole isn't understanding how this is groundbreaking.

Curable, or avoidable? I ask because I'm clueless, can they stop it once you have it or just keep it at bay?

Adept Havelock · 10-23-2007, 07:31 PM

Good news. Glad to hear progress is being made. Shame it's too late for my friend.

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Originally Posted by StcChief

ok now that we have been diverted for 20+ years.
can we get back to Cancer, MS, autism, etc.

Perhaps you noticed we didn't stop research on any of those while researching AIDS?

You've made it clear you don't give a rip about people dying from AIDS/HIV. Or at least that you don't think it's worth investing our medical research in seeking a cure. I have my suspicions why, but I'll leave that alone.

Perhaps an innocent child who received a bad blood transfusion will have a shot at a full life because of this.

**QuikSsurfer** · 10-23-2007, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

I have had a family member die from AIDS caused by being a heroin junkie.

A girl that I dated from high school through sophomore year in college got it for trying it the first time. About a year later when she had meet someone else, POS didn't give her a clean needle.

**pr_capone** · 10-23-2007, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by QuikSsurfer

both.

My brother died of AIDS 20 years ago after getting a blood transfusion. He needed one when his GF at the time stabbed him 38 times in his sleep. Well... I am sure only the first few were in his sleep but that is beside the point.

They did not test the blood back then as well as now and he got AIDS.

He was 6'1 and ripped beyond belief. He weighed 210 and was solid muscle.... when he died he weighed less than 90.

Never stuck needles in his arm... or anywhere else for that matter. People that do get little to no sympathy from me though.

**Donger** · 10-23-2007, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by QuikSsurfer

A girl that I dated from high school through sophomore year in college got it for trying it the first time. About a year later when she had meet someone else, POS didn't give her a clean needle.

Sorry, no sympathy from me.

**QuikSsurfer** · 10-23-2007, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone

My brother died of AIDS 20 years ago after getting a blood transfusion. He needed one when his GF at the time stabbed him 38 times in his sleep. Well... I am sure only the first few were in his sleep but that is beside the point.

They did not test the blood back then as well as now and he got AIDS.

He was 6'1 and ripped beyond belief. He weighed 210 and was solid muscle.... when he died he weighed less than 90.

Never stuck needles in his arm... or anywhere else for that matter.

They really didn't test the blood before? How old was he when he died?
that's very, very sad.

**Donger** · 10-23-2007, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone

My brother died of AIDS 20 years ago after getting a blood transfusion. He needed one when his GF at the time stabbed him 38 times in his sleep. Well... I am sure only the first few were in his sleep but that is beside the point.

They did not test the blood back then as well as now and he got AIDS.

He was 6'1 and ripped beyond belief. He weighed 210 and was solid muscle.... when he died he weighed less than 90.

Never stuck needles in his arm... or anywhere else for that matter.

That's horrible. I'm sorry that you lost your brother.

**QuikSsurfer** · 10-23-2007, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Sorry, no sympathy from me.

I wasn't crying for it.

**pr_capone** · 10-23-2007, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by QuikSsurfer

They really didn't test the blood before? How old was he when he died?
that's very, very sad.

I don't remember exactly.... he was in his early 20's. 24 I think.

20 years ago they did not check for HIV / AIDS. And if they did, it surely was not as accurate as it is now.

**Bob Dole** · 10-23-2007, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JohninGpt

Curable, or avoidable? I ask because I'm clueless, can they stop it once you have it or just keep it at bay?

They've had combination drug treatments that render the HIV viral load undetectable for years. Which in turn allows the immune system to "recover" to normal levels, thus "curing" AIDS.

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