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Old 05-15-2008, 08:01 PM  
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Worst Security Breach in US History?

Chinese Counterfeit Cisco Routers

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FBI: China may use counterfeit Cisco routers to penetrate U.S. networks
An FBI presentation states that China has counterfeited Cisco Systems network routers and may be using the equipment to penetrate U.S. government and private sector computer networks.

Federal authorities in February seized some 400 counterfeit Cisco Systems knockoffs worth $76 million. The equipment included routers, switches, gigabit interface converters and WAN interface cards.
Among the purchasers of the fake equipment were the U.S. Naval Academy, U.S. Naval Air Warfare Center, U.S. Naval Undersea Warfare Center, U.S. Air Base at Spangdahelm, Germany, the Bonneville Power Administration, General Services Administration, and the defense contractor Raytheon, which makes key missile and weapons systems.

The FBI briefing slides on the case stated that while there are “intelligence gaps” on why the Chinese made the counterfeit equipment it could have been for profit or as part of a state-sponsored operation.
Additionally the scope of the Chinese counterfeit equipment may extend beyond routers to include fake IT equipment such as PCs and printers.
Under a section titled “The Threat,” the FBI described the effort as “IT subversion/supply chain attack” that could “cause immediate or premature system failure during usage.”
The counterfeit equipment also could be used to “gain access to otherwise secure systems” and to “weaken cryptographic systems.”
The briefing slide said the Chinese information warfare efforts require “intimate access to target systems.”
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Old 05-16-2008, 05:38 AM   #31
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Old 05-16-2008, 06:29 AM   #32
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Old 05-16-2008, 07:43 AM   #33
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Don't piss off the Chinese. If they call in their loan markers we're hosed.

We support their economy. Remember the last time they spoke up about this? We had everything recalled.
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Old 05-16-2008, 07:46 AM   #34
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yah, id bet against it for now as well, but they do have the power over the most powerful country in the world's economy, so we must go about china very delicately

Doesn't that by definition make them the most powerful country in the world? Many economists expect the Chinese economy to exceed that of the US by around 2025. Don't underestimate them. They are amazingly good at what they do. They've parlayed the trading of cheap goods into world dominance. They're exceedingly intelligent and crafty. The history of their success over the last three decades is stunning. We need to take notice and act now if we want any hope of leaving a viable and American-controlled economy for future generations.
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Old 05-16-2008, 07:47 AM   #35
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Old 05-16-2008, 08:02 AM   #36
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Old 05-16-2008, 09:16 AM   #37
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Old 05-16-2008, 10:01 AM   #38
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