George Lucas lost his mind long ago

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Jesum Crow.

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George Lucas' Indiana aliens George Lucas' Indiana aliens George Lucas wanted to call the new 'Indiana Jones' film 'Indiana Jones and the Saucer Men From Mars'. The film's producer had his idea firmly rejected by actor Harrison Ford and director Steven Spielberg as the three men struggled to reach an agreement for around 10 years. Spielberg said: "There was a point where I thought George and I would never agree on the story, and I was fine with that. "George and I are best friends, and we always argue, and we always debate. That's been the nature of our relationship since we met in 1967." 'Star Wars' director Lucas had commissioned Jeb Stuart - who wrote the script for 'Die Hard' - to write his version, which saw Indy go up against Russian agents and had a climatic battle scene between the US army and alien flying saucers. Ford added: "It takes time to get Steven, George and me on the same page. George is very stubborn with his ideas." 'Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull' is released on May 22.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

probably not as entertaining as Last Crusade.

You think so???...to me Last Crusade was the "Return of the Jedi" of that series, it wont be too hard to top IMO.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by scott free

You think so???...to me Last Crusade was the "Return of the Jedi" of that series, it wont be too hard to top IMO.

If that was Return of the Jedi, then Temple of Doom was The Phantom Menace: director's cut.

I'm guessing KotCS comes in 3rd out of 4.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by scott free

You think so???...to me Last Crusade was the "Return of the Jedi" of that series, it wont be too hard to top IMO.

Really? I hated Return - I think it was the worst of the 6 movies but I thoroughly enjoyed Crusade. I liked River as young Indy and Connery as Senior. Even though I own the box set, I can't turn off Crusade anytime it's on broadcast television.

I can't change the channel quick enough when "Temple" is on and "Return" (at least to me) is worthless outside of the Vader/Emperor/Luke scenes which again (IMO) there aren't nearly enough.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

If that was Return of the Jedi, then Temple of Doom was The Phantom Menace: director's cut.

I'm guessing KotCS comes in 3rd out of 4.

And I loved Phantom Menace. It's right behind Empire & the original for me.

[irishjayhawk]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Really? I hated Return - I think it was the worst of the 6 movies but I thoroughly enjoyed Crusade. I liked River as young Indy and Connery as Senior. Even though I own the box set, I can't turn off Crusade anytime it's on broadcast television.

I can't change the channel quick enough when "Temple" is on and "Return" (at least to me) is worthless outside of the Vader/Emperor/Luke scenes which again (IMO) there aren't nearly enough.

You thought Return of the Jedi was the worst of ALL the Star Wars movies - original and new?

There's no way it could be as bad as 1 or 2.

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I'm guessing KotCS comes in 3rd out of 4.

Thats what i'm guessing, but hoping its more like #2 in line.

Dane, i dunno...it just seems like that dark & dangerous vibe is missing from Crusade, hopefully those guys have their finger on the new pulse...darker & edgier is better. The best stuff in Crusade to me is that they actually shot in the stone city of Petra.

Nonetheless, like GoChiefs sig...its nice to feel 12 years old again, look at all of us old men jawing about it like kids .

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And I loved Phantom Menace. It's right behind Empire & the original for me.

Different strokes.

I thought it was by far the worst. I'd go ESB, ANH, RotJ, AotC, RotS and then TPM.

The only thing in RotJ I didn't like were the childishness of the ewoks when they were introduced, but I thought the way the final act was constructed was a thing of beauty. The last 20 minutes or so of that film are epic.

[irishjayhawk]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Different strokes.

I thought it was by far the worst. I'd go ESB, ANH, RotJ, AotC, RotS and then TPM.

The only thing in RotJ I didn't like were the childishness of the ewoks when they were introduced, but I thought the way the final act was constructed was a thing of beauty. The last 20 minutes or so of that film are epic.

I'd go with this line up:

ESB, ANH, RotJ, RotS, AotC and then TPM.

[keg in kc]

RotS and AotC are 4a and 4b to me, they essentially rank as even...

TPM comes in at 7th. Out of 6.

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Stop talking about Star Wars you ****ing nerds.

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TPM is the "Final Frontier" of Star Wars, whereas ESB is "The Wrath of Khan". I'd say RotJ is probably the "First Contact" of the series.

[007]

Originally Posted by GOATSE

Stop talking about Star Wars you ****ing nerds.

Now THAT is funny.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by irishjayhawk

You thought Return of the Jedi was the worst of ALL the Star Wars movies - original and new?

There's no way it could be as bad as 1 or 2.

Yeah, I do.

Thematically, it was identical to "A New Hope" (Star Wars). There was nothing new or fresh about the locales, no new information was revealed, the Muppet-like Ewoks were a lame addition (it really did feel like the Muppet Show, especially during the battle scene) and with the exception of the battle between Luke & Vader on the Death Star, there was just nothing really worth watching. Lucas has even stated that if he were to do it all over, he'd have written a different script and had directed it himself (for better or worse).

I didn't care for AOTC. It had its moments (Any scene with Kenobi & Jango Fett) but I hated the yellowish-brown haze of Geonosis, the lightsaber battles looked fake and contrived, Sam Jackson was a HORRIBLE casting choice and there wasn't enough Christopher Lee or political intrigue (which is what I admired about TPM).

I also thought Ben Burtt absolutely butchered the score in the edit bay (and John Williams was pissed about that, from what I heard at the time) and the "romance" between Anakin & Padme was forced and fake at best. I also wish they would have cast ANYONE other than Hayden (Or Ryan Phillipe) as Anakin.

As for the Phantom Menace, I thought it was awesome. Absolutely awesome. It showed the Jedi, just before their decline. Liam Neeson was everything that I imagined as a Jedi (wise but powerful), Darth Maul was an insanely talented evil assassin and Senator Palpatine was at his devilish best. I loved the fact that the movie moved slowly (unlike the ridiculous pacing of AOTC) and I enjoyed the back story, especially the Pod Racing sequence.

I thought it looked beautiful (especially Naboo. Exteriors shot in Italy and the rest CGI) and I absolutely believe that it was John Williams best score ever. It's a masterpiece (and I've had many a conductor agree with that assessment).

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by scott free

Thats what i'm guessing, but hoping its more like #2 in line.

Dane, i dunno...it just seems like that dark & dangerous vibe is missing from Crusade, hopefully those guys have their finger on the new pulse...darker & edgier is better. The best stuff in Crusade to me is that they actually shot in the stone city of Petra.

Nonetheless, like GoChiefs sig...its nice to feel 12 years old again, look at all of us old men jawing about it like kids .

Yeah, I guess "dark & dangerous" is missing, especially since they showed the Nazi's as bumbling idiots (Hitler signing his father's diary?). But I still enjoyed the movie because the actors really appeared to have fun in their roles and the story was fun as well.

Maybe we'll get lucky and Crystal Skull will be more entertaining than the previous sequels.

But I'm not betting on it.

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The other casting choice that sucked balls was Jimmy Smits.