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**Tribal Warfare** · 08-19-2008, 10:55 PM

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Chiefs camp buzz: Another shake-up in defensive lineup

Another defensive lineup change

Tank Tyler replaced Ron Edwards as a starting defensive tackle in practice, marking the second lineup change on the line and the third on the defense since the start of training camp.

Edwards has been a solid if unspectacular run defender since he joined the Chiefs two years ago. But the Chiefs think Tyler, in his second season, has more potential and has earned the spot. Edwards will play as part of the defensive line rotation.

The Chiefs now line up with Tyler and Glenn Dorsey at tackle, and Tamba Hali and Turk McBride at end. Hali, in his third season, is the senior member of the group.

Alfonso Boone, who was displaced as the starting left end early in camp by McBride, comes in at tackle on obvious passing downs, replacing Tyler.

The Chiefs also replaced middle linebacker Napoleon Harris with Pat Thomas.

One last trial for Novak, Barth?

The Chiefs will take kickers Nick Novak and Connor Barth to Miami for Saturday night’s game against the Dolphins. This could be the last game for one of the two. The Chiefs, like all NFL teams, must trim their roster to 75 players before the final preseason game on Aug. 28.

It could also be the last game for both kickers. The Chiefs don’t appear sold on either of the two. Coach Herm Edwards seemed particularly disappointed when Barth missed a 46-yard field-goal attempt last week against the Arizona Cardinals.

Jay Feely and John Carney, who finished last season with the Chiefs, are two of the available veteran kickers.

“The thing about a veteran kicker is … they’re always out there,” Edwards said. “The great thing about kickers if they’re a veteran guy who’s not on a team right now, they don’t need a lot of practice.”

WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT …

THE OFFENSE
Edwards said the starters, including quarterback Brodie Croyle, would play into the third quarter Saturday in Miami. He would like Croyle to be able to lead a live two-minute drill, something he hasn’t done in either of the first two games. Edwards hinted that the Chiefs might simulate a two-minute drill at another point in the game. … Dwayne Bowe again showed a tremendous ability to adjust to the ball in the air. He beat Pat Surtain and later Brandon Carr on fade patterns by making his move for the ball earlier than his opponent. … Bobby Sippio rebounded from his miserable game against Arizona to make a sliding catch from Tyler Thigpen.

THE DEFENSE
Linebacker Demorrio Williams continued to get work as a hand-on-the-ground rusher in passing situations. … Glenn Dorsey was back at his spot as a middle pass rusher in the nickel defense. … Rookie safety Khayyam Burns made a couple of nice plays. First he busted up a Thigpen pass, though he should have made an interception. Later, he squeezed through a tight gap to trap Dantrell Savage in the backfield. That earned him a congratulatory handshake from coordinator Gunther Cunningham.

INJURY REPORT
Running back Jamaal Charles (shoulder), wide receiver Kevin Robinson (knee), tight end Brad Cottam (shoulder), offensive linemen Branden Albert (foot) and Damion McIntosh (ankle), defensive lineman Trevor Johnson (concussion), linebackers Donnie Edwards (hamstring) and Napoleon Harris (knee), and cornerback Tyron Brackenridge (hamstring) did not practice.

HC_Chief · 08-20-2008, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

I'm fine with either Feely or Barth......just ****ing pick one and stick with it. Herm isn't going to find a kicker that makes EVERY field goal that he attempts.

Dumb fuck should have drafted Crosby last season insted of that UCLA bundle of sticks and we wouldn't be sweating any aspect of the kicking game.

Reerun_KC · 08-20-2008, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

Dumb fuck should have drafted Crosby last season insted of that UCLA Rump Rangergot and we wouldn't be sweating any aspect of the kicking game.

Who says Herm wouldnt of cut Crosby by now?

InChiefsHeaven · 08-20-2008, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

That is the truth.

Which makes it seem absolutely ridiculous to give up on a young kicker simply because he isn't perfect.

I understand that Herman ****ing Edwards wants to attempt to win as many games as possible this year, which makes the idea of an experienced kicker with a good history appealing, but the fact is, this team isn't winning a lot of games this year, so it's a great time to give a young kicker some experience.

Should we have kept Medlock last year then?

Reerun_KC · 08-20-2008, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

Should we have kept Medlock last year then?

yeah we should of last year... No reason not to... Hell if you are starting the season with DownField BigFetal, then there was no reason not to keep a rookie kicker...

milkman · 08-20-2008, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

Should we have kept Medlock last year then?

Given that Misslock was missing as much or more than he was making, no.

All reports are that Barth has been pretty good, with just a few misses in practice, and the 46 yarder against the Cards.

Novak has been pretty good also.

Frosty · 08-20-2008, 11:39 AM

Kickoffs always seem to a problem. I don't see why you can't just use one of your big guys to do it? Tamba Hali grew up playing soccer; I'm sure he would be able to kick off with a little training. It's not like this team is going to do a surprise on-side kick. Just go out there and just bang it out of the back of the end zone.

StcChief · 08-20-2008, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by arc

Kickoffs always seem to a problem. I don't see why you can't just use one of your big guys to do it? Tamba Hali grew up playing soccer; I'm sure he would be able to kick off with a little training. It's not like this team is going to do a surprise on-side kick. Just go out there and just bang it out of the back of the end zone.

thinking outside the box....I like that approach. Big Soccer Players. (Janokoski comes to mind). Can't give up a roster spot for two Place Kickers so.
or get Punter to kick off. And the days of the backup QB being a Punter??

hence a "Utility man approach to football" See Pats with LB/DEs on Offense at times. our trick with Jared Allen as Reciever.

InChiefsHeaven · 08-20-2008, 11:59 AM

Yeah, they should just have a day in practice where everyone who wants to kick just line up and kick the crap out of the ball...if we ever need an on-side kick, the FG kicker can handle it. Otherwise, find the guy that can boot it out of the endzone every damn time and call it good!!

08-19-2008, 10:55 PM
Tribal Warfare The Boom Boom Room Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $592813	Teicher: Chiefs camp buzz: Another shake-up in defensive lineup http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chi...ry/756939.html Chiefs camp buzz: Another shake-up in defensive lineup Another defensive lineup change Tank Tyler replaced Ron Edwards as a starting defensive tackle in practice, marking the second lineup change on the line and the third on the defense since the start of training camp. Edwards has been a solid if unspectacular run defender since he joined the Chiefs two years ago. But the Chiefs think Tyler, in his second season, has more potential and has earned the spot. Edwards will play as part of the defensive line rotation. The Chiefs now line up with Tyler and Glenn Dorsey at tackle, and Tamba Hali and Turk McBride at end. Hali, in his third season, is the senior member of the group. Alfonso Boone, who was displaced as the starting left end early in camp by McBride, comes in at tackle on obvious passing downs, replacing Tyler. The Chiefs also replaced middle linebacker Napoleon Harris with Pat Thomas. One last trial for Novak, Barth? The Chiefs will take kickers Nick Novak and Connor Barth to Miami for Saturday night’s game against the Dolphins. This could be the last game for one of the two. The Chiefs, like all NFL teams, must trim their roster to 75 players before the final preseason game on Aug. 28. It could also be the last game for both kickers. The Chiefs don’t appear sold on either of the two. Coach Herm Edwards seemed particularly disappointed when Barth missed a 46-yard field-goal attempt last week against the Arizona Cardinals. Jay Feely and John Carney, who finished last season with the Chiefs, are two of the available veteran kickers. “The thing about a veteran kicker is … they’re always out there,” Edwards said. “The great thing about kickers if they’re a veteran guy who’s not on a team right now, they don’t need a lot of practice.” WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT … THE OFFENSE Edwards said the starters, including quarterback Brodie Croyle, would play into the third quarter Saturday in Miami. He would like Croyle to be able to lead a live two-minute drill, something he hasn’t done in either of the first two games. Edwards hinted that the Chiefs might simulate a two-minute drill at another point in the game. … Dwayne Bowe again showed a tremendous ability to adjust to the ball in the air. He beat Pat Surtain and later Brandon Carr on fade patterns by making his move for the ball earlier than his opponent. … Bobby Sippio rebounded from his miserable game against Arizona to make a sliding catch from Tyler Thigpen. THE DEFENSE Linebacker Demorrio Williams continued to get work as a hand-on-the-ground rusher in passing situations. … Glenn Dorsey was back at his spot as a middle pass rusher in the nickel defense. … Rookie safety Khayyam Burns made a couple of nice plays. First he busted up a Thigpen pass, though he should have made an interception. Later, he squeezed through a tight gap to trap Dantrell Savage in the backfield. That earned him a congratulatory handshake from coordinator Gunther Cunningham. INJURY REPORT Running back Jamaal Charles (shoulder), wide receiver Kevin Robinson (knee), tight end Brad Cottam (shoulder), offensive linemen Branden Albert (foot) and Damion McIntosh (ankle), defensive lineman Trevor Johnson (concussion), linebackers Donnie Edwards (hamstring) and Napoleon Harris (knee), and cornerback Tyron Brackenridge (hamstring) did not practice.
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08-20-2008, 11:39 AM	#36
Frosty Go Beavers! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Warshington Casino cash: $5478243	Kickoffs always seem to a problem. I don't see why you can't just use one of your big guys to do it? Tamba Hali grew up playing soccer; I'm sure he would be able to kick off with a little training. It's not like this team is going to do a surprise on-side kick. Just go out there and just bang it out of the back of the end zone.
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08-20-2008, 11:59 AM	#38
InChiefsHeaven Rockin' yer FACE OFF! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Casino cash: $3584937	Yeah, they should just have a day in practice where everyone who wants to kick just line up and kick the crap out of the ball...if we ever need an on-side kick, the FG kicker can handle it. Otherwise, find the guy that can boot it out of the endzone every damn time and call it good!! __________________ We have a million reasons for failure, but not one excuse... Die Donks, DIE!! Holy Crap fellas!!! We did it!!! THREE TIMES!!!
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