Symbolism: From Dates To Planes - Page 3

FedEx Marty · 09-11-2001, 11:46 AM

Somebody else mentioned this earlier: "9-11".

As I woke up this morning about a 10 till 6 out in Arizona, I woke to see something quite odd on TV. As my eyes grogged-out and I could see, I knew something wasn't right. Then, just minutes later another plane crashed into the WTC.

The date? 9-11-01. The symbolism: You call that number when you have an emergency and today we had one.

The other thing that I find interesting is the choice of airlines: American & United. It really doesn't take a genius to understand the meaning of this.

Sadly, we lost a lot of good people today. People that didn't deserve to die. More importantly, terroism has finally become entrenched on American soil. We have done our share to protect the world in all corners from Idonesia to Khazitkhan. Now, we have to address the issue and align ourselves with foreign countries and bring mass-terroism to an end before more attacks like this occur.

Like it or not, but the way the world opperates changed today. Our freedom was challenged. Our way of life was challenged. How we respond will ultimately decide how countries deal with us. How President Bush responds will send a strong message that he is either a leader or a coward. Our response needs to be swift, severe and memorable.

If it is discovered that Osama bin Laden was responsible...well, we need to sweep Afghanistan until we find him.

In closing, I leave you with this:

"Demonstrators distributed candy in a traditional gesture of celebration. Several Palestinian gunmen shot in the air, while other marchers carried Palestinian flags. Nawal Abdel Fatah, 48, wearing a long, black dress, threw sweets in the air, saying she was happy because "America is the head of the snake, America always stands by Israel in its war against us."

My response:

*****, you haven't seen a snake this pissed off.

Brock · 09-11-2001, 02:12 PM

My God, what a DOPE. Save the touchy feely BS. AMERICANS ARE DEAD IN A PLOT SPAWNED BY THESE SO-CALLED "CULTURES".

**ExtremeChief** · 09-11-2001, 02:21 PM

I was listening to ABC News on the radio and they had an interview with former NY mayor Koch. He basically said we should do the following.

Tell the countries harboring known terrorists that they have 5 days to deliver said terrorists or evacuate your population centers. If the US doesn't get these assholes they want, then we will destroy everything you have.

He said a lot more, and was very interesting to listen to. He had a very hardline approach, something hopefully our gubment will have as well.

sounds like a great plan to me...

htismaqe · 09-11-2001, 02:24 PM

Don't be surprised if George's response is very similar to the July 1945 speech from Truman...

"We will rain fire from the skies..."

**Lzen** · 09-11-2001, 02:24 PM

[QUOTE]The only thing we should "learn" in all of this is how to perform an autopsy on a screaming Palestinian while keeping him alive and alert.[/QUOTE]

That is great Clint. I love that idea.
Extreme,
Let's hope our Pres. has that same type of hardline approach.

Warrior5 · 09-11-2001, 05:37 PM

months / years of analysis and psychobabble needs to snap out of it.

No one here is advocating that the U.S. "decimate an innocent public because a few of their leaders are ruthless killers."

1. You need to understand that a terrorist realizes that he cannot fight a conventional fight with our forces, and sees everyone as a combatant - children, women, and senior citizens included. Therefore, he seeks to attain political objectives through asymmetric means; in other words, attack us in a way that we have no way of countering. Today, he succeeded in a big way.

2. Our current national security policy prohibits us from conducting assassinations of individuals who threaten our national security. I'm willing to bet that policy is about to change with an executive order.

3. Once we discover which government(s) was complicit in what happened today, they should get a 6-hour warning to evacuate all "non-combatants" from designated targets. At 6-hours + 1 second, those targets become craters, whether they've been evacuated or not. I'm not just talking a few PGMs either; I'm saying carpet-bombed, Arc-Lite type, destruction that renders those areas non-suitable for human habitation, followed 3 hours later with Proctor and the 82d walking through to collect souvenirs. CNN should accompany the paratroopers with live satellite feeds so the entire world sees the consequences of ruthlessly killing our innocent children, women, senior citizens, fathers, and mothers. THIS IS THE ONLY LANGUAGE A TERRORIST UNDERSTANDS, AND THE ONLY WAY TO PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN!

4. After all this has happened, you'll still be looking "at the cultures involved here and figure out how to proceed... what action and reaction will achieve the best long term benefit vs. taking a short term revenge and making the problem worse long term." When you finally finish your "analysis", no one will care because the problem will no longer exist.

Sorry for the rant, but fed up with people trying to solve the unsolvable through committees and focus groups that merely attempt to make everyone "feel good". People need to stop comparing this to Pearl Harbor. That was a military operation against military targets. America was violated today; this is the worst disaster America has suffered within it's borders.

The only way to prevent terrorism is to kill it swiftly and completely with overwhelming force.

KCWolfman · 09-11-2001, 05:41 PM

If copycats need a date, they only need use any day of the year. You can symbolize any date and create a link.

Michael Michigan · 09-11-2001, 05:42 PM

Warrior5--

No apology needed--well stated.

KCWolfman · 09-11-2001, 05:42 PM

Warrior - I have yet to read a better, more thought out post today.

Thank you for putting all of my thoughts into a concise report.

I am forwarding your post to my Representative, Senator, and President today and expressing my desire that it be enacted immediately.

09-11-2001, 11:46 AM
FedEx Marty "I wanna start a bar fight!" Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Phoenix, AZ Casino cash: $10004900	Symbolism: From Dates To Planes Somebody else mentioned this earlier: "9-11". As I woke up this morning about a 10 till 6 out in Arizona, I woke to see something quite odd on TV. As my eyes grogged-out and I could see, I knew something wasn't right. Then, just minutes later another plane crashed into the WTC. The date? 9-11-01. The symbolism: You call that number when you have an emergency and today we had one. The other thing that I find interesting is the choice of airlines: American & United. It really doesn't take a genius to understand the meaning of this. Sadly, we lost a lot of good people today. People that didn't deserve to die. More importantly, terroism has finally become entrenched on American soil. We have done our share to protect the world in all corners from Idonesia to Khazitkhan. Now, we have to address the issue and align ourselves with foreign countries and bring mass-terroism to an end before more attacks like this occur. Like it or not, but the way the world opperates changed today. Our freedom was challenged. Our way of life was challenged. How we respond will ultimately decide how countries deal with us. How President Bush responds will send a strong message that he is either a leader or a coward. Our response needs to be swift, severe and memorable. If it is discovered that Osama bin Laden was responsible...well, we need to sweep Afghanistan until we find him. In closing, I leave you with this: "Demonstrators distributed candy in a traditional gesture of celebration. Several Palestinian gunmen shot in the air, while other marchers carried Palestinian flags. Nawal Abdel Fatah, 48, wearing a long, black dress, threw sweets in the air, saying she was happy because "America is the head of the snake, America always stands by Israel in its war against us." My response: *****, you haven't seen a snake this pissed off.
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09-11-2001, 02:12 PM	#31
Brock Say hello to my little friend Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Larryville Casino cash: $9598422	My God, what a DOPE. Save the touchy feely BS. AMERICANS ARE DEAD IN A PLOT SPAWNED BY THESE SO-CALLED "CULTURES".
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09-11-2001, 02:21 PM	#32
ExtremeChief Poser Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: BFE, MO Casino cash: $9991344	I was listening to ABC News on the radio and they had an interview with former NY mayor Koch. He basically said we should do the following. Tell the countries harboring known terrorists that they have 5 days to deliver said terrorists or evacuate your population centers. If the US doesn't get these assholes they want, then we will destroy everything you have. He said a lot more, and was very interesting to listen to. He had a very hardline approach, something hopefully our gubment will have as well. sounds like a great plan to me... __________________ When you wish upon a falling star, your dreams can come true. Unless it's really a meteorite hurtling to the Earth which will destroy all life. Then you're pretty much hosed no matter what you wish for. Unless it's death by meteor.
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09-11-2001, 02:24 PM	#33
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8099900	Don't be surprised if George's response is very similar to the July 1945 speech from Truman... "We will rain fire from the skies..."
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09-11-2001, 02:24 PM	#34
Lzen Banded Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Oz Casino cash: $-709308	[QUOTE]The only thing we should "learn" in all of this is how to perform an autopsy on a screaming Palestinian while keeping him alive and alert.[/QUOTE] That is great Clint. I love that idea. Extreme, Let's hope our Pres. has that same type of hardline approach. __________________ Conversation would be vastly improved by the constant use of four simple words: I do not know.
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09-11-2001, 05:37 PM	#35
Warrior5 Stram was Cav Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8054010	Whoever is advocating... months / years of analysis and psychobabble needs to snap out of it. No one here is advocating that the U.S. "decimate an innocent public because a few of their leaders are ruthless killers." 1. You need to understand that a terrorist realizes that he cannot fight a conventional fight with our forces, and sees everyone as a combatant - children, women, and senior citizens included. Therefore, he seeks to attain political objectives through asymmetric means; in other words, attack us in a way that we have no way of countering. <B>Today, he succeeded in a big way.</B> 2. Our current national security policy prohibits us from conducting assassinations of individuals who threaten our national security. <B>I'm willing to bet that policy is about to change with an executive order.</B> 3. Once we discover which government(s) was complicit in what happened today, they should get a 6-hour warning to evacuate all "non-combatants" from designated targets. At 6-hours + 1 second, those targets become craters, whether they've been evacuated or not. I'm not just talking a few PGMs either; I'm saying carpet-bombed, Arc-Lite type, destruction that renders those areas non-suitable for human habitation, followed 3 hours later with Proctor and the 82d walking through to collect souvenirs. CNN should accompany the paratroopers with live satellite feeds so the entire world sees the consequences of ruthlessly killing our innocent children, women, senior citizens, fathers, and mothers. <B>THIS IS THE ONLY LANGUAGE A TERRORIST UNDERSTANDS, AND THE ONLY WAY TO PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN!</B> 4. After all this has happened, you'll still be looking "at the cultures involved here and figure out how to proceed... what action and reaction will achieve the best long term benefit vs. taking a short term revenge and making the problem worse long term." When you finally finish your "analysis", no one will care because the problem will no longer exist. Sorry for the rant, but fed up with people trying to solve the unsolvable through committees and focus groups that merely attempt to make everyone "feel good". People need to stop comparing this to Pearl Harbor. That was a military operation against military targets. America was <B>violated</B> today; this is the worst disaster America has suffered within it's borders. The <B>only</B> way to prevent terrorism is to kill it swiftly and completely with <B>overwhelming</B> force. __________________ The best pass defense is attacking the passer.
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09-11-2001, 05:41 PM	#36
KCWolfman Fall down 7 times, get up 8 Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	If copycats need a date, they only need use any day of the year. You can symbolize any date and create a link.
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09-11-2001, 05:42 PM	#37
Michael Michigan scribe Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Warrior5-- No apology needed--well stated.
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