Chiefs Interesting... - Page 3

Hootie · 12-29-2008, 06:46 AM

Daniel Graham:

3/6/2007: Signed a five-year, $30 million contract. The deal included a $10 million signing bonus and a first-year roster bonus of $5 million. 2008: $700,000, 2009: $3.2 million, 2010: $3.8 million, 2011: $4.2 million, 2012: Free Agent

Tony Gonzalez:

1/12/2006: Signed a five-year, $35 million contract. The deal includes $17.75 million in guarantees. 2008: $1 million, 2009: $4 million, 2010: $4.5 million, 2011: $5.75 million, 2012: Free Agent

Mecca · 12-29-2008, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

We'll see...I'm not going to think one way or another until I see what happens in the next few months.

If they hire the right GM and coaches, I expect improvement but I don't think it will show more than 3 or 4 games on the win loss record..so that would be somewhere between 2-5 wins.

Of course it will depend who all they can get in here, if we can get a QB that will speed this up a bit looking at 2010 and 2011.

**Skip Towne** · 12-29-2008, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

The Colts have gone out of their way to keep all of their receivers for Manning I didn't really like what they gave Harrison at his age either. They made moves to please Peyton I guess that's ok for a player like that sometimes.

Yeah, well, Peyton Manning can take a hike.

Hootie · 12-29-2008, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

If they hire the right GM and coaches, I expect improvement but I don't think it will show more than 3 or 4 games on the win loss record..so that would be somewhere between 2-5 wins.

Of course it will depend who all they can get in here, if we can get a QB that will speed this up a bit looking at 2010 and 2011.

What's the point of speculating when you have no idea who we hire, who we sign, and who we draft?

None.

I refuse to debate or speculate about our wins and losses next year until I see what we do this offseason.

Mecca · 12-29-2008, 07:40 AM

Well there isn't much else to talk about.....I'd rather think about them making good moves than having to go "**** that sucked"

Hootie · 12-29-2008, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Well there isn't much else to talk about.....I'd rather think about them making good moves than having to go "**** that sucked"

You're going to label every move as a terrible one anyways...that's what you do. Jared Allen was an average player when he was a Chief...you mocked everyone who called him a top defensive end...

You already stated Tony Gonzalez was grossly overpaid etc. etc. etc. until I showed you that it wasn't the case whatsoever...which you then deflected because you knew you were wrong and didn't want to admit it...

Blah blah blah...you're a broken record and you don't know nearly as much as you think.

Mecca · 12-29-2008, 07:47 AM

Yes I rail every single Chiefs player....that isn't remotely the case.

Hootie · 12-29-2008, 07:56 AM

here are a few gems, mecca...

I'd surely take Allen over Peppers.

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost....7&postcount=25

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost....6&postcount=71

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost....7&postcount=13

**dirk digler** · 12-29-2008, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

If a team could see into the future and realize Tony was nowhere near slowing down when he signed his last contract, he could have easily gotten a $50M contract somewhere else.

Just admit, as of right now, Tony has easily outplayed the contract extension he signed in 2006. Can you do it? Are you capable of admitting you are wrong when you say Tony Gonzalez is overpaid?

I agree with you Hootie. The Chiefs were very smart about re-signing Tony.

I advocated that the Chiefs should keep Tony and LJ. Sometimes we are right sometimes we are wrong that is the way it goes.

Mecca · 12-29-2008, 07:59 AM

After the 2006 season when Allens biggest year was I believe 9 sacks?

You know you have to account for player development and when a statement was made. After the 2006 season he wasn't an elite player......which is when I made that comment.

Hootie · 12-29-2008, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

After the 2006 season when Allens biggest year was I believe 9 sacks?

You know you have to account for player development and when a statement was made. After the 2006 season he wasn't an elite player......which is when I made that comment.

The year he had 7.5 sacks doesn't tell the story for what kind of year he had...he constantly applied pressure on the QB...he had so many QB hurries and pressures but everyone cited the 7.5 sacks as being a down season.

Allen has been a great player from day 1.

Everyone could see him becoming an elite DE except for you...because he was a Chiefs player and you don't want anyone from the Chiefs to succeed because then you wouldn't have a purpose on this board.

Mecca · 12-29-2008, 08:05 AM

That's a really sad thing if you think that.....but hey to each their own I guess.

**J Diddy** · 12-29-2008, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

The year he had 7.5 sacks doesn't tell the story for what kind of year he had...he constantly applied pressure on the QB...he had so many QB hurries and pressures but everyone cited the 7.5 sacks as being a down season.

Allen has been a great player from day 1.

Everyone could see him becoming an elite DE except for you...because he was a Chiefs player and you don't want anyone from the Chiefs to succeed because then you wouldn't have a purpose on this board.

what is your purpose on this board?

**Skip Towne** · 12-29-2008, 09:06 AM

Hootie you quit picking on Mecca this minute. Don't make me stop this car.

**The Bad Guy** · 12-29-2008, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

You're going to label every move as a terrible one anyways...that's what you do. Jared Allen was an average player when he was a Chief...you mocked everyone who called him a top defensive end...

You already stated Tony Gonzalez was grossly overpaid etc. etc. etc. until I showed you that it wasn't the case whatsoever...which you then deflected because you knew you were wrong and didn't want to admit it...

Blah blah blah...you're a broken record and you don't know nearly as much as you think.

I actually agree with you.

I enjoy Mecca's takes on the draft, but he is always chicken little with this team.

There is absolutely no way, in January, before all the staff and GM decisions have been made can you certainly say this team is going to be awful in 2009.

Teams in the NFL turn it around in one off-season with capable coaching and leadership.

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12-29-2008, 07:40 AM	#34
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2077050	Well there isn't much else to talk about.....I'd rather think about them making good moves than having to go "**** that sucked"
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12-29-2008, 07:47 AM	#36
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2077050	Yes I rail every single Chiefs player....that isn't remotely the case.
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12-29-2008, 07:56 AM	#37
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	here are a few gems, mecca... I'd surely take Allen over Peppers. http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost....7&postcount=25 http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost....6&postcount=71 http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost....7&postcount=13
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12-29-2008, 07:59 AM	#39
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2077050	After the 2006 season when Allens biggest year was I believe 9 sacks? You know you have to account for player development and when a statement was made. After the 2006 season he wasn't an elite player......which is when I made that comment.
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12-29-2008, 08:05 AM	#41
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2077050	That's a really sad thing if you think that.....but hey to each their own I guess.
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12-29-2008, 09:06 AM	#43
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