Chiefs Was Herm fired because Pioli wanted to or because of the pressure from the press? - Page 3

Fritz88 · 01-24-2009, 07:38 AM

This can be a better title:

Was Herm fired because Pioli thought it was the right time or because of the pressure from the press?

I have come across many articles that are reprimanding Pioli for keeping
Herm in the dark for so long. These articles surfaced almost all within 2-3 days from each other.

Now the question is. Was Herm fired because Pioli can't keep him waiting for so long and he got into hot water with the media or he planned to fire him that day anyway?

To me it seems that perhaps Clark told Pioli to either fire Herm or let him know what is going on.

PastorMikH · 01-24-2009, 03:44 PM

I'd say that Pioli taking some time to review the situation in KC before making any moves should have been expected. IMO 2 weeks isn't dragging it out if you are really giving the uncumbant a chance to keep his job.

**007** · 01-24-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

Pioli doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who gives two shits what the media thinks. At least I hope so.

THIS

eazyb81 · 01-24-2009, 03:51 PM

Yeah, Pioli probably was scared to death of guys like Joe Posnanski and Jeff Flanagan calling him to task in such a powerful and world-renowned newspaper as the KC Star.

Thus, while he was extremely impressed with Herm's resume, knowledge of the game, and focus on excellence and execution, he felt he had to fire him just to keep the press at bay for the time being. Despite being at the helm of a franchise that won 3 Super Bowls this decade, he is very insecure with himself and his abilities, and I'm sure he feels his only key to success is to make the local media happy.

However, he now has another big decision to make regarding the head coach, so I can only assume he is furiously refreshing kcstar.com to see if the braintrust at the sports section has come to a unanimous decision on who the next coach should be.

Fritz88 · 01-24-2009, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

he is furiously refreshing kcstar.com

Mojo Jojo · 01-24-2009, 04:01 PM

Given the "Patriot Way" I can't believe that Scott did anything because of the press or fans. He comes from a background, The Tuna and BB, that doesn't give a s%&t about outside forces and pressure.

Nightfyre · 01-24-2009, 04:05 PM

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Mojo Jojo · 01-24-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

Pioli doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who gives two shits what the media thinks. At least I hope so.

The funny thing is that for all bitching KK and Jack H. have done the past 15+ years; it isn't going to get any better. If he sticks with the Pats way, Scott will do what he wants when he wants to do it and the media can go to hell!!!!

Way to go Scott. Everyone wanted a change and from the media side the game remains the same.

Amnorix · 01-24-2009, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

Pioli doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who gives two shits what the media thinks. At least I hope so.

Rest assured, as a close watcher of the Belichick/Pioli era:

They do not give a rat's ass what you or any other fan thinks. They do not give a rat's ass what the press thinks. They know more than you, and they know it. You will cheer if/when they give you a winning team, and that's what they will count on.

Your opinion is UTTERLY irrelevant. The faster you get used to that, the happier you will be.

The press will not be happy about this, however. Just as they won't be happy that they can't get any inside scoops out of them.

warrior · 01-24-2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Manila-Chief

Yes, Pioli wanted to pick Herm's brain, but would have only taken a few days.

Herm had a brain ? who would've known.

StcChief · 01-24-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

I'm sure he wanted to fire him a lot sooner, but wanted to humor Clark.
I also think Clark wanted Herm fired sooner too, but waned to humor Herm.

and
Herm wanted to be fired early so he could head back to Cali for the offseason....

StcChief · 01-24-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Rest assured, as a close watcher of the Belichick/Pioli era:

They do not give a rat's ass what you or any other fan thinks. They do not give a rat's ass what the press thinks. They know more than you, and they know it. You will cheer if/when they give you a winning team, and that's what they will count on.

Your opinion is UTTERLY irrelevant. The faster you get used to that, the happier you will be.

The press will not be happy about this, however. Just as they won't be happy that they can't get any inside scoops out of them.

I love it, running the Chiefs like a business to win. Not let the media or fans dictate any kind of pressue. ..... what a concept.

IF Carl could have focused on winning....but wait saving Lamar's money was more important and butts in the seats at all times.

Red Dawg · 01-24-2009, 04:28 PM

No way Scotty gave in to pressure. After getting 3 SB rings I doubt too much shakes him up. He knows how to make a sound decision.

MTG#10 · 01-24-2009, 04:32 PM

Pioli could give a shit less what the press thinks about him.

MTG#10 · 01-24-2009, 04:33 PM

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