NFL Draft Neither Stafford or Sanchez belong in top 10 - Page 3

**chiefforlife** · 02-21-2009, 09:39 AM

SOME DON’T VIEW STAFFORD, SANCHEZ AS TOP TEN PICKS
Posted by Mike Florio on February 21, 2009, 8:21 a.m.

Our initial mock draft of the year created plenty of consternation among folks who regard such matters even more importantly that some of our other readers regard their chosen religion.

And, yes, we were trying to make a point with the thing. At this stage, none of the draft experts (i.e., guys who couldn’t get or hold a scouting job with an NFL team and who instead tried to create a niche in the media for the stuff no NFL team would pay them to do) know with any degree of certainty what will occur on draft day.

Apart from the premature nature of prognosticating the events of late April is the fact that every NFL team makes its own decisions for its own reasons, especially in round one. Some draft based on need. Others take the best available player. And when 32 teams have different views on how those available players are ranked from best to worst, the stage is set for all sorts of screwy stuff.

We could have created even more consternation by dropping Georgia quarterback Matt Stafford and USC quarterback Mark Sanchez out of the top ten. In some war rooms, it’s an accurate view of the two players.

Said one source, “In other years those guys aren’t first-round picks. Stafford played well in 2007 but was horrible in 2008. He stunk in all their big games.”

The source specifically pointed to the contests against Alabama, Florida, and Tennessee. Based on the numbers, Stafford was bad against Florida, mediocre against Alabama, and decent against Tennessee.

“He is an average leader at best,” the source opined. “When you put a lot of pressure on him, he pees his pants. Detroit has a new front office, but if they take him then it’s the same old stuff. I guarantee that if he goes in the top 20 he will never play to the level he was drafted.

“What he has is physical skills,” the source added. “He has a strong arm and is athletic but he also has poor instincts and poor decision-making.”

Some might disagree with that assessment. But the point is that, when you’ve got a bunch of different folks assessing the same players, there will be significant variations from person to person.

“As far as Sanchez,” the source said, “he is a more solid choice. He played in a pro style offense. He’s accurate and has a good arm. He’s smart and a leader.

“The negative is he was a one-year starter. Tell me the last time a quarterback who was a one-year starter in college made it big in the NFL? Game time is huge with quarterbacks. Granted, from a money standpoint he made the right decision, but from the standpoint of having a top career, his decision has to be questioned.”

(And, no, our source isn’t Pete Carroll.)

So there you have it. Evidence of how the viewpoints on supposedly top players can diverge dramatically. It makes the process of predicting draft picks even more precarious. So, in the end, we think the final tally of players taken two months from now would presently seem every bit as goofy and unrealistic as some viewed our initial Pre-Combine Mock Draft.

**chiefforlife** · 02-21-2009, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

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Throwing in shorts and a t-shirt to receivers you've never seen before is now the big stage.

I'll be sure to include this line when I introduce JaMarcus Russell at his HOF induction.

A college player wanting to be an NFL player working out in front of 32 NFL head coaches and GMs is the biggest stage of his career so far.

This IS what the combine is all about, no?

**Dave Lane** · 02-21-2009, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Why would Stafford not throw? I just don't understand it. He has a million dollar arm.

The talent at the top of this draft sucks. It figures the year we are in position to pick up a stud, there might not be there one for the taking.

I want Sanchez, but I can see why people feel that neither is worth a top 10 selection.

The problem is, there aren't many guys in this draft worthy of top 10 picks.

Give me Sanchez and I'll be happy as hell.

this exactly...

Pioli Zombie · 02-21-2009, 10:37 AM

This is outragous. Don't they know stafford is the next joe montana and sanchez is the next drew bledsoe?
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milkman · 02-21-2009, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

This is outragous. Don't they know stafford is the next joe montana and sanchez is the next drew bledsoe?
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Would you like to actually contribute something to this forum someday?

Reerun_KC · 02-21-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Would you like to actually contribute something to this forum someday?

milkman · 02-21-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

This is outragous. Don't they know stafford is the next joe montana and sanchez is the next drew bledsoe?
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Oh, and FTR, Pioli smoker, if I knew ahead that Sanchez was the next Bledsoe, I'd want no part of him.

Deberg_1990 · 02-21-2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

if I knew ahead that Sanchez was the next Bledsoe, I'd want no part of him.

heh, we could argue this one all week long and i understand your point.

But ill say this: This Chiefs team and the early 90's Pats are in very similiar situations.

Bledsoe did pull his franchise out of the muck and went to a Bowl. He was an effective leader for 7 or 8 years.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-21-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Would you like to actually contribute something to this forum someday?

You're asking an awful lot out of Simple Jack.

kstater · 02-21-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Would you like to actually contribute something to this forum someday?

What credentials do you have to make that assumption that he doesn't contribute?

**DeezNutz** · 02-21-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kstater

What credentials do you have to make that assumption that he doesn't contribute?

Literacy.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-21-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Literacy.

**dirk digler** · 02-21-2009, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MWagg72

Sanchez's agent is his brother so yes, he probably won't do things that are considered normal.

Thanks for pointing that out. Rack that up as stupid decision #1.

After doing some checking he is his first player client ever. Wow I can't say how stupid a decision that is.

Red Beans · 02-21-2009, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by cfl

I am starting to believe more and more that this isnt the year to spend a #3 pick on a QB.
I hope they are looking farther down in the draft.

Ding ding ding we have a winner folks...This is the year to address our other needs first. That being said there's no reason to think we won't draft a QB in a later round.

milkman · 02-21-2009, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Thanks for pointing that out. Rack that up as stupid decision #1.

After doing some checking he is his first player client ever. Wow I can't say how stupid a decision that is.

I can't recall who, but there is another person involved as his agent working with his brother who I believe has previous experience.

**DeezNutz** · 02-21-2009, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Beans

Ding ding ding we have a winner folks...This is the year to address our other needs first. That being said there's no reason to think we won't draft a QB in a later round.

What need would you like to address?

1. We have a LT.
2. There isn't an elite DE in the draft (that we know of).
3. There isn't an elite rush backer in the draft (that we know of).

Don't say RT.

02-21-2009, 09:39 AM
chiefforlife Colorado Chief Fan Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $5493147	Neither Stafford or Sanchez belong in top 10 SOME DON’T VIEW STAFFORD, SANCHEZ AS TOP TEN PICKS Posted by Mike Florio on February 21, 2009, 8:21 a.m. Our initial mock draft of the year created plenty of consternation among folks who regard such matters even more importantly that some of our other readers regard their chosen religion. And, yes, we were trying to make a point with the thing. At this stage, none of the draft experts (i.e., guys who couldn’t get or hold a scouting job with an NFL team and who instead tried to create a niche in the media for the stuff no NFL team would pay them to do) know with any degree of certainty what will occur on draft day. Apart from the premature nature of prognosticating the events of late April is the fact that every NFL team makes its own decisions for its own reasons, especially in round one. Some draft based on need. Others take the best available player. And when 32 teams have different views on how those available players are ranked from best to worst, the stage is set for all sorts of screwy stuff. We could have created even more consternation by dropping Georgia quarterback Matt Stafford and USC quarterback Mark Sanchez out of the top ten. In some war rooms, it’s an accurate view of the two players. Said one source, “In other years those guys aren’t first-round picks. Stafford played well in 2007 but was horrible in 2008. He stunk in all their big games.” The source specifically pointed to the contests against Alabama, Florida, and Tennessee. Based on the numbers, Stafford was bad against Florida, mediocre against Alabama, and decent against Tennessee. “He is an average leader at best,” the source opined. “When you put a lot of pressure on him, he pees his pants. Detroit has a new front office, but if they take him then it’s the same old stuff. I guarantee that if he goes in the top 20 he will never play to the level he was drafted. “What he has is physical skills,” the source added. “He has a strong arm and is athletic but he also has poor instincts and poor decision-making.” Some might disagree with that assessment. But the point is that, when you’ve got a bunch of different folks assessing the same players, there will be significant variations from person to person. “As far as Sanchez,” the source said, “he is a more solid choice. He played in a pro style offense. He’s accurate and has a good arm. He’s smart and a leader. “The negative is he was a one-year starter. Tell me the last time a quarterback who was a one-year starter in college made it big in the NFL? Game time is huge with quarterbacks. Granted, from a money standpoint he made the right decision, but from the standpoint of having a top career, his decision has to be questioned.” (And, no, our source isn’t Pete Carroll.) So there you have it. Evidence of how the viewpoints on supposedly top players can diverge dramatically. It makes the process of predicting draft picks even more precarious. So, in the end, we think the final tally of players taken two months from now would presently seem every bit as goofy and unrealistic as some viewed our initial Pre-Combine Mock Draft.
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