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Old 03-23-2009, 12:10 PM  
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1.Detroit Lions: Jason Smith OT Baylor
2.St.Louis Rams: Eugene Monroe OT Virginia
3.San Francisco 49ersFrom KC): Matthew Stafford QB Georgia
4.Seattle Seahawks: Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio St
5.Cleveland Browns: Brian Orakpo DE/LB Texas
6.Cincinnati Bengals: Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech
7.Oakland Raiders: Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech
8.Jacksonville Jaguars: Mark Sanchez QB USC
9.Green Bay Packers: B.J. Raji DT Boston College
10.Kansas City Cheifs(From SF):Everette Brown DE Florida St
11.Buffalo Bills: Brian Cushing LB USC
12.Denver Broncos: Josh Freeman QB Kansas State
13.Washington Redskins: Andre Smith OT Alabama
14.New Orleans Saints: Aaron Curry LB Wake Forest
15.Houston Texans: Clay Matthews LB USC
16.San Diego Chargers: Michael Oher OT Ole Miss
17.New York Jets: Jeremy Maclin WR Mizzou
18.Chicago Bears: Eben Britton OT Arizona
19.Tampa Bay Buccaneers:Chris Wells RB Ohio St
20.Detroit Lions: Tyson Jackson DE LSU
21.Philadelphia Eagles: Robert Ayers DE Tennessee
22.Minnesota Vikings: Vontae Davis CB Illinois
23.New England Patriots: Rey Maualuga LB USC
24.Atlanta Falcons: Brandon Pettigrew TE Okie St.
25.Miami Dolphins: Darius Butler CB Uconn
26.Baltimore Ravens: Percy Harvin WR Florida
27.Inidanapolis Colts: Peria Jerry DT Ole Miss
28.Philadelphia Eagles: William Beatty OT Uconn
29.New York Giants: Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia
30.Tennessee Titans: Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forest
31.Arizona Cardinals: Donald Brown RB Uconn
32.Pittsburgh Steelers: D.J. Moore CB Vandy

Chief's get 2nd rd pick from SF and other disclosed picks Chiefs select Connor Barwin with 2nd rd pick
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Old 03-23-2009, 12:55 PM   #31
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im not saying we only get a 2nd rounder, i just dont know what else we would get.
Dropping from 3rd to 10th and only getting a 2nd rounder would not be a good deal for us but the devil is in the details of "other picks".
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Old 03-23-2009, 01:00 PM   #32
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I'd rather grab Alex Mack instead of Barwin in the 2nd.
**** yeah. Or Unger.

Personally, I HATE Brown at Ten.

I've yet to hear a convincing argument that Brown will be Terrell Suggs.

Because that's exactly the type of production you'd expect at #10.
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Old 03-23-2009, 01:01 PM   #33
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Browns the best pass rusher from this draft in my view so you're not gonna get anything better this year.
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Old 03-23-2009, 01:02 PM   #34
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**** yeah. Or Unger.

Personally, I HATE Brown at Ten.

I've yet to hear a convincing argument that Brown will be Terrell Suggs.

Because that's exactly the type of production you'd expect at #10.
Would you complete the trade down to #10 and then trade #10 to the Ravens for Suggs?
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Old 03-23-2009, 01:03 PM   #35
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Would you complete the trade down to #10 and then trade #10 to the Ravens for Suggs?
Hell yeah! But that would never happen.
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Old 03-23-2009, 01:05 PM   #36
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Hell yeah! But that would never happen.
Well you never know. I haven't heard anything about a contract being worked out for Suggs as of yet. Maybe they're waiting to see what happens on draft day.
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Old 03-23-2009, 01:05 PM   #37
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Browns the best pass rusher from this draft in my view so you're not gonna get anything better this year.
I don't think the Chiefs focus should be on a pass rusher who's not an absolute, sure thing.

Terrell Suggs had like 22 sacks his final year in college. Brown had 13.5. Also, pass rushing OLB's are not uncommon in later rounds.

If Brown goes in the top ten, he'd better produce 10 sacks a year minimum or it's a wasted pick.
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Old 03-23-2009, 01:07 PM   #38
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Well first and foremost no one is a sure thing, there are guys who produced in college that never produced at the next level...

Also using Suggs as an example is being extreme he has the college record for sacks in a season and had question marks coming into his draft.
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Old 03-23-2009, 01:25 PM   #39
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I don't think the Chiefs focus should be on a pass rusher who's not an absolute, sure thing.

Terrell Suggs had like 22 sacks his final year in college. Brown had 13.5. Also, pass rushing OLB's are not uncommon in later rounds.

If Brown goes in the top ten, he'd better produce 10 sacks a year minimum or it's a wasted pick.
Do you have multiple personalities or something? You literally spent days arguing with bdeg in the draft forum that the only place to find pass rush is in the first round. Now, you say that pass rushing OLB's are not uncommon in later rounds.

WTF?
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I like the trade and the pick, but there is no way in hell that Curry drops to number 14.

No shit ! What a stupid mock!
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Do you have multiple personalities or something? You literally spent days arguing with bdeg in the draft forum that the only place to find pass rush is in the first round. Now, you say that pass rushing OLB's are not uncommon in later rounds.

WTF?
Brown projects to be an OLB.

I was speaking mainly about true defensive ends. I mentioned them by name as well (Peppers, Kearse, Bruce Smith, Mario Williams, Neil Smith, etc.).
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Well first and foremost no one is a sure thing, there are guys who produced in college that never produced at the next level...

Also using Suggs as an example is being extreme he has the college record for sacks in a season and had question marks coming into his draft.
If he had questions marks, it was by dumb****s. With his size, athleticism, speed and college production there shouldn't have been any question marks.
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Brown projects to be an OLB.

I was speaking mainly about true defensive ends. I mentioned them by name as well (Peppers, Kearse, Bruce Smith, Mario Williams, Neil Smith, etc.).
Put on the brakes, here.

We're not going to get into this again, but the discussion was about impact pass rushers. Meaning both.

If it had been about DE's it would've been an irrelevant point to bring up in the first place.
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If he had questions marks, it was by dumb****s. With his size, athleticism, speed and college production there shouldn't have been any question marks.
He weighed 245lbs and put on weight and posted a poor time...teams questioned what his real position was.
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