Crabtree at #3 - Page 3

Coogs · 04-03-2009, 02:42 PM

My first choice would be Sanchez, but I don't think that will happen. My 2nd choice is Crabtree. I know many of you don't agree, but I think he would be perfect for Haley and the new offense.

Bowe ran a 4.51 forty. Crabtree is listed at 4.55 on NFLDraftCountdown. That's actually faster than the Cards duo.

Boldin ran a 4.71 forty. Fitzgerald ran a 4.53 forty. These two guys make it work without getting the defense all jammed up as some here claim it would for Bowe and Crabtree.

And here is what Kiper has to say in a chat from this afternoon on ESPN.com...

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David (Austin): Who does Michael Crabtree compare most favorably to in the NFL?? Do you think there's any "bust" potential with Crabtree?

Mel Kiper: I don't see any bust potential. He's competitive, sure handed, tough WR. I think he compares to a Larry Fitzgerald and an Andre Johnson. If he's anywhere close to being as good as those two, you hit the jackpot.

So if we pass on Sanchez, Crabtree would be the guy I would like as of April 3rd.

**Tribal Warfare** · 04-03-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

He is nothing, absolutely nothing, like DeMarcus Ware.

Really?????????? How do you know that? Both were considered raw talents, and had eye popping measurables. Coupled with Barwin's immediate growth as a pass rusher( pass rushing technique) and with the kids athleticism the sky's the limit. I remember Hamas was slobbering on Gholston's knob about the same issues, but Barwin is apt study unlike Gholston.

LaChapelle · 04-03-2009, 05:17 PM

Del Rio has got to be hanging by a thread. The Jags should pick who ever gives them immediate help.

Coogs · 04-03-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

There is nothing to compare Crabtree to A. Johnson or Fitz.

You do realize this is Kiper saying Crabtree compares to Johnson/Fitzgerald, and not Coogs don't you?

I know. Kiper's and idiot!

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-03-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Really?????????? How do you know that? Both were considered raw talents, and had eye popping measurables. Coupled with Barwin's immediate growth as a pass rusher( pass rushing technique) and with the kids athleticism the sky's the limit. I remember Hamas was slobbering on Gholston's knob about the same issues, but Barwin is apt study unlike Gholston.

FFS, this shit is reeruned.

Vernon Gholston had 22.5 sacks in two years and he had a phenomenal combine. It's not his fault his dumbass, since-fired coach wanted to make him a read and react linebacker instead of a downhill killer while he buried him behind two vets.

Perhaps we should all bury Dorsey for being similarly misused.

booger · 04-03-2009, 05:34 PM

If they would get the 12 and 18 with a trade back with denver or someother tradeback and get in the 15 or lower range and take Barwin i will be pissed. Clint Sintim would be a better reach at that point, a late first rounder is his range. Barwin is probably a 3rd round talent that with so much pub has moved up to a 2nd and maybe a late first. Sintim could go anywhere from 23 to the pats or a bit higher.

**Tribal Warfare** · 04-03-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

FFS, this shit is reeruned.

Vernon Gholston had 22.5 sacks in two years and he had a phenomenal combine. It's not his fault his dumbass, since-fired coach wanted to make him a read and react linebacker instead of a downhill killer while he buried him behind two vets.

Huh-huh, not making a #6 pick a passrushing force, because they suddenly wanted him to dropback in coverage. Dude, it seems like he wasn't a good student hell,with the money in his pocket I would have him trot along the line with the apocalyptic sign"The End is Near" .

Still my point stands, and Barwin had 11 sacks this year so lets put production to rest.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-03-2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Huh-huh, not making a #6 pick a passrushing force, because they suddenly wanted him to dropback in coverage. Dude, it seems like he wasn't a good student hell,with the money in his pocket I would have him trot along the line with the apocalyptic sign"The End is Near" .

Still my point stands, and Barwin had 11 sacks this year so lets put production to rest.

Did you overdose on ****tardery? Do you even know what kind of scheme Mangini ran and why that might be a problem?

Coogs · 04-03-2009, 05:43 PM

Crabtree fellas, Crabtree. If we stay at #3. Crabtree should be the pick. Not Monroe. Not Curry. Not Orakpo. Crabtree.

bdeg · 04-03-2009, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If we trade down for Connor Barwin in the first round, everyone in the entire organization should be summarily executed.

Hamas, will you accept a $20 bet Barwin goes in the first(doesn't in your case)?

LaChapelle · 04-03-2009, 05:51 PM

It use to be, if you had an extra LT you could rape a trade partner. I guess now that the Chiefs finally got Roaf replaced, they're a dime a dozen.

Mecca · 04-03-2009, 06:31 PM

Please no, I'd rather have Heyward-Bey if you want a WR.

ChiefsCountry · 04-03-2009, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Please no, I'd rather have Heyward-Bey if you want a WR.

He reminds me alot of Alvin Harper, which would be the perfect compliment to Bowe.

htismaqe · 04-03-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Please no, I'd rather have Heyward-Bey if you want a WR.

Why? The guy doesn't do anything well other than run a good 40 in shorts.

Mecca · 04-03-2009, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Why? The guy doesn't do anything well other than run a good 40 in shorts.

That is completely untrue, are you aware that he was playing for a team that he was literally the only good offensive player for?

His numbers are very respectable for having nothing around him.

Mecca · 04-03-2009, 07:19 PM

2005 RS - - - -
2006 13 45 694 15.4 5
2007 13 51 786 15.4 3
2008 12 42 609 14.5 5
Totals 38 138 2,089 15.1 13

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04-03-2009, 05:43 PM	#38
Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $-2375651	Crabtree fellas, Crabtree. If we stay at #3. Crabtree should be the pick. Not Monroe. Not Curry. Not Orakpo. Crabtree.
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04-03-2009, 05:51 PM	#40
LaChapelle Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	It use to be, if you had an extra LT you could rape a trade partner. I guess now that the Chiefs finally got Roaf replaced, they're a dime a dozen.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-802950	Please no, I'd rather have Heyward-Bey if you want a WR.
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04-03-2009, 07:19 PM	#45
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-802950	2005 RS - - - - 2006 13 45 694 15.4 5 2007 13 51 786 15.4 3 2008 12 42 609 14.5 5 Totals 38 138 2,089 15.1 13
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