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Old 04-11-2009, 02:29 AM  
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Old 04-12-2009, 10:09 AM   #31
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"Worst picks:" "Tyler isn't a major reach in the third round"
That's funny. Way to support your argument that he was one of the worst picks.(the writer, not orange)
Really though, sometimes it's hard for us to know how the NFL downgrades a player for certain things such as questionable work ethic or a charge.

I also promise you that at one point NFLDC had Tyler going in the first round of their mock.
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Old 04-12-2009, 10:09 AM   #32
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Still am.

Like I said, the guy is a 1st round talent. He dropped due to off the field issues. There are several people in that thread that agree with me, and think that write was way off base.

Anything else?
Not at all. It's no big deal - just that doomy3 got it right.
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Old 04-12-2009, 10:15 AM   #33
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Not at all. It's no big deal - just that doomy3 got it right.
No, he didn't.

He takes quotes from others from January, people who didn't still feel the same way come April.

Mecca is an example. There's a post from Mecca in the thread you posted that says something to the effect of "I'll throw shit at my TV is we take Tyler in the 1st."
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Old 04-12-2009, 10:19 AM   #34
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No, he didn't.

He takes quotes from others from January, people who didn't still feel the same way come April.

Mecca is an example. There's a post from Mecca in the thread you posted that says something to the effect of "I'll throw shit at my TV is we take Tyler in the 1st."
?????

Two weeks before the draft you likened Tyler to a 10-pick reach at 23, and moments ago you said this "Tyler IS a 1st round talent."

What are you disagreeing with?
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Old 04-12-2009, 10:24 AM   #35
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i'm still high on tyler. i think he IS a 1st round talent and began to come into his own the latter part of last year
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Old 04-12-2009, 10:25 AM   #36
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?????

Two weeks before the draft you likened Tyler to a 10-pick reach at 23, and moments ago you said this "Tyler IS a 1st round talent."

What are you disagreeing with?
This has nothing to do with me. My views haven't changed.

The views of the other people he quoted from that thread in JANUARY did change their views leading up to the draft - which was the timeframe Dane was discussing before doomy decided to post quotes from people from January.

Therefore, doomy didn't get it right.
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Old 04-12-2009, 10:28 AM   #37
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This has nothing to do with me. My views haven't changed.

The views of the other people he quoted from that thread in JANUARY did change their views leading up to the draft - which was the timeframe Dane was discussing before doomy decided to post quotes from people from January.

Therefore, doomy didn't get it right.
Okay, I get it....
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Old 04-12-2009, 10:36 AM   #38
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Mecca is an example. There's a post from Mecca in the thread you posted that says something to the effect of "I'll throw shit at my TV is we take Tyler in the 1st."
Except that doomy3 didn't say that mecca liked Tyler. He said that mecca liked Jarrett. Not a good example.
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Old 04-12-2009, 10:45 AM   #39
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Except that doomy3 didn't say that mecca liked Tyler. He said that mecca liked Jarrett. Not a good example.
So what are YOU disagreeing with?



Do you get it, or not?

Either way, I've made my point.

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Old 04-12-2009, 10:49 AM   #40
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Old 04-12-2009, 10:55 AM   #41
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IIRC, he does two mock drafts. This one, and one a day or two before the draft. the 2nd one he does is usually one of the better indicators of what is actually going to happen on draft day.
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Old 04-12-2009, 11:52 AM   #42
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This has nothing to do with me. My views haven't changed.

The views of the other people he quoted from that thread in JANUARY did change their views leading up to the draft - which was the timeframe Dane was discussing before doomy decided to post quotes from people from January.

Therefore, doomy didn't get it right.


I don't think I mentioned Mecca liking Tyler. I mentioned you and Hamas. I just ran a quick search and found those quotes since Dane was questioning that for some reason.
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Old 04-12-2009, 08:39 PM   #43
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Here you go then...

This is from a thread titled, "Identify your dream player in the first round of the 2007 NFL draft!"
I don't think it's fair to quote people on January 10th.

It would be different if those guys said that Mid-April but January?

Talk about a reach.
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Old 04-12-2009, 10:35 PM   #44
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I don't think it's fair to quote people on January 10th.

It would be different if those guys said that Mid-April but January?

Talk about a reach.
That was just the first thread I read when I ran a quick search. Feel free to read further in this very thread where Orange quoted other threads from April that year.
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Old 04-12-2009, 11:42 PM   #45
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That's funny. Way to support your argument that he was one of the worst picks.(the writer, not orange)
Really though, sometimes it's hard for us to know how the NFL downgrades a player for certain things such as questionable work ethic or a charge.

I also promise you that at one point NFLDC had Tyler going in the first round of their mock.
So obviously, you've proven my point.

None of these "mocksperts" know anything.
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