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Old 04-13-2009, 02:01 PM  
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Mayock predicts that the Chiefs will...
draft LT Monroe, the college teammate of current LT B. Albert of the Chiefs, and move Albert to RT and start Monroe at LT. See the video clip below.

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80f99143
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Old 04-14-2009, 07:55 AM   #31
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You aren't solidifying bookends for the next decade, you're doing it through the remainder of Branden Albert's contract, if Monroe works out. Once Albert is done, he's gonna go somewhere that sees him as a LT and he'll get LT money.

We can't give that to two players on their second contracts.
what is the rule for franchising players when it comes to positions like RT and LT? if you franchised Albert, wouldn't you have to pay him RT money or trade him, not LT money?
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Old 04-14-2009, 07:59 AM   #32
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You aren't solidifying bookends for the next decade, you're doing it through the remainder of Branden Albert's contract, if Monroe works out. Once Albert is done, he's gonna go somewhere that sees him as a LT and he'll get LT money.

We can't give that to two players on their second contracts.
Bookends for 5 years?

KC could offer Albert a 2 year extension right now for 9 million guaranteed.
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Old 04-14-2009, 09:56 AM   #33
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Bookends for 5 years?

KC could offer Albert a 2 year extension right now for 9 million guaranteed.
Why would he agree with that? Especially if the team is going to move him to a position where he's going to get paid significantly less.

It's not about the contracts in the end. It's about Albert actually staying here. If we move him away from LT, he's as good as gone.
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Old 04-14-2009, 10:01 AM   #34
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what is the rule for franchising players when it comes to positions like RT and LT? if you franchised Albert, wouldn't you have to pay him RT money or trade him, not LT money?
Yeah, let's burn every possible bridge we can with one of the few promising young players we have...
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You aren't solidifying bookends for the next decade, you're doing it through the remainder of Branden Albert's contract, if Monroe works out. Once Albert is done, he's gonna go somewhere that sees him as a LT and he'll get LT money.

We can't give that to two players on their second contracts.
If we're tinkering with the idea of burning the Dorsey pick, why not go balls out and burn the Albert pick as well?
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Why would he agree with that? Especially if the team is going to move him to a position where he's going to get paid significantly less.

It's not about the contracts in the end. It's about Albert actually staying here. If we move him away from LT, he's as good as gone.
Why would he do it? He got about 9 million as a bonus when he signed. He would be weighing doubling his money right now, or running the risk he won't get hurt or his play won't decline at the end of 5 years.
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If we're tinkering with the idea of burning the Dorsey pick, why not go balls out and burn the Albert pick as well?
Because Albert actually played at a high level.
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Why would he do it? He got about 9 million as a bonus when he signed. He would be weighing doubling his money right now, or running the risk he won't get hurt or his play won't decline at the end of 5 years.
Most of these guys don't approach it that way. It's about ego. He's a LT now and if the team tries to screw him, he's gonna be pissed.
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Because Albert actually played at a high level.
I was kidding.

I'm not giving up on Dorsey, yet, either.
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Most of these guys don't approach it that way. It's about ego. He's a LT now and if the team tries to screw him, he's gonna be pissed.
Ego is part of it. A much larger part is money. It's a tough position to be in. 9 million now, or wait 5 more years with a much bigger risk.
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Ego is part of it. A much larger part is money. It's a tough position to be in. 9 million now, or wait 5 more years with a much bigger risk.
$9 million? Who gives a **** about $9 million?

The guy will be paid as one of top tackles in the league at a time when there's probably a Rookie Pay Scale in place, virtually guaranteeing him of huge dollars.

And what agent in his right mind would advise a client to do what you're suggesting?

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$9 million? Who gives a **** about $9 million?

The guy will be paid as one of top tackles in the league at a time when there's probably a Rookie Pay Scale in place, virtually guaranteeing him of huge dollars.

And what agent in his right mind would advise a client to do what you're suggesting?

Answer: No one.
How does a rookie pay scale affect a player entering his 2nd contract?
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How does a rookie pay scale affect a player entering his 2nd contract?
It frees up a dickton of cap room.
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It frees up a dickton of cap room.
Isn't there already a cap that teams have to fit all rookies into?

Do you really think a rookie cap is going to save a lot of money? Assuming one is ever adopted it'll be based on what is paid now, with small increases each year. They aren't ever going to go back on guaranteed money.
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How does a rookie pay scale affect a player entering his 2nd contract?
The NFL is almost certain to have an NBA style rookie cap.

So for example, let's say the number overall pick receives $10 million dollars in guarantees. The second overall pick would receive a fraction of that (say $9.9 million) and so on throughout the draft.

What will happen is that teams will have an exorbitant amount of money for veterans on their second contract (as it should be).

In that case, Albert would clean up.

The owners have pretty much vowed to lock out the players until an agreement like this has been reached.
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