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Old 04-16-2009, 11:13 PM  
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:18 AM   #31
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There are less NFL players on Staffords offense than there are on either one of those other teams...
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:19 AM   #32
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Yep Leinart was worthy of a # 1 overall. Not.
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:20 AM   #33
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You just made my point.
You're point being, "I'm a ****ing reerun"?
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:20 AM   #34
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Why are we talking about Leinart again?
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:21 AM   #35
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True but they didn't have teammates being drafted like Staffords supporting cast.
This could also be a coaching problem. Typically if a TEAM underperformed I wouldn't go right out and put all the blame on the QB's shoulders and say he isn't a top prospect because his team didn't do anything.
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:21 AM   #36
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True but they didn't have teammates being drafted like Staffords supporting cast.
Leinhart's usc team was filled with high draft picks.
Young's texas team had some college talent.
Some people were picking georgia #1 pre season but that proved wrong they were good but not #1 good.I am no expert but I don't see any georgia or usc recievers or tight ends going 1st round.
Stafford did have moreno who can be a great one someday but after that no 1st rounders.
After sanchez alot of usc def players will get picked before the 2nd off player gets picked.
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:21 AM   #37
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Yep Leinart was worthy of a # 1 overall. Not.
What is this bases of your argument? You're like moving the goal posts here.
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:22 AM   #38
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You just made my point.
You're comparing Massaquoi and Moreno to the 2004 USC team?

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Old 04-17-2009, 12:23 AM   #39
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Massaquoi wouldn't have even played on that team and Knowshon would have at best been a platoon player.
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:31 AM   #40
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My point is after the payday at #1 overall for for the
freaking Detroit Lions and a few bone shattering sacks as a rookie, Stafford has a very high probability of being a bust. I'm thinking Todd Blackledge.. I know Blackledge wasn't #1 overall but I'm just sayin.
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I am not being sarcastic I am just hard pressed to think of 1 in the past few years.
What qb has won a NC and gone on to be a great nfl qb in the last few years?
Its almost like the kiss of death to win it.
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My point is after the payday at #1 overall for for freaking Detroit Lions and a few bone shattering sacks as a rookie, Stafford has a very high probability of being a bust. I'm thinking Todd Blackledge.. I know Blackledge wasn't #1 overall but I'm just sayin.
That's not a point. That's you just saying shit that you think is going to happen based on nothing that's actually grounded in truth or reality.
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:43 AM   #43
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I think Sanchez has way more upside than Stafford and he is going to be more willing to prove it. But the tangibles might get Stafford drafted #1. Sad but true.
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:52 AM   #44
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Young, leinhart,,,etc winning a NC doesn't mean you will be a good pro it just means you are a great college player.
Alot of good qb's have come from college teams who were 8-3,7-4 type teams.
That's the thing that just cheeses my ass; show me Tim Tebow or Sam Bradford being worth a flying **** in this league because they can "out spread" the other spread team on a goddamned college field.

Guess what? You can't.

I was lambasting this damned fool at another site who, god only knows why, has his own web cast happy fun time hour. I explained to him that the search for a QB prospect for the NFL is about skill set, technique, leadership, and intelligence among other things, and that his record of BCS appearances is just icing on the cake.
I also explained to him that a franchise not run by ass clowns is going groom him properly by bringing him along at a pace that doesn't involve throwing his ass to the wolves on opening day after his first NFL camp.
I emphasized this point by mentioning that Chiefs fans by and large are not familiar with these concepts because the last time our beloved franchise possessed the requisite nut sack to make that kind of commitment and take QB in the first round; "Donkey Kong was setting the mother****ing world on fire"!!!


His resonse? Well, ah...

That's right; shut the **** up.
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There are less NFL players on Staffords offense than there are on either one of those other teams...
I just about spit my drink when I saw that.

"Stafford surrounded by all that talent".

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