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Old 04-20-2009, 10:43 AM   #1
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take gakic...shit works. don't take it right before bed though, you won't sleep for a while

it gives you a 10% strength increase so you can lift more weight and more reps than normal. It's 70.00 at gnc, you can get it on amazon for 40.00. 120 caplets, 8 per serving.

take creatine as well to fuel your muscles and build them back up quickly.
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:48 AM   #2
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take gakic...shit works. don't take it right before bed though, you won't sleep for a while

it gives you a 10% strength increase so you can lift more weight and more reps than normal. It's 70.00 at gnc, you can get it on amazon for 40.00. 120 caplets, 8 per serving.

take creatine as well to fuel your muscles and build them back up quickly.
Gakic is one of the few MT products worth a crap.
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:49 AM   #3
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I thought all creatine did was make your muscles retain water so the look bigger?
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Old 04-20-2009, 02:39 PM   #4
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I thought all creatine did was make your muscles retain water so the look bigger?
LOL, no.
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Old 04-20-2009, 04:35 PM   #5
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LOL, no.
Creatine doesnt help your muscles retain water?
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Old 04-20-2009, 06:45 PM   #6
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Creatine doesnt help your muscles retain water?
No it does in fact, and I can demonstrate this not only by weight going up but by body water percentage also increasing. That said, creatine has been shown in actual medical studies to have a statistically significant gain in muscle mass.

I actually started using it way back in college but stopped a while ago, I started back again for my workouts, when I was talking to my dad about workouts and he actually mentioned it(he's an actual MD). Studies back up that it does help gain. Not nearly as huge as steriods obviously but also not the side effects.
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Old 04-20-2009, 07:06 PM   #7
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I thought all creatine did was make your muscles retain water so the look bigger?
That's one of the aspects of it, but not the ONLY aspect. Are you under the impression that your muscles aren't composed of a ton of water as it is?
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:40 PM   #8
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I thought all creatine did was make your muscles retain water so the look bigger?
Yes, precisely. I don't actually look bigger or gain much weight on creatine like most people though. I notice about 2 lbs gain if that, and that's it. But it hydrates you with more water where you need it so you can lift more. When you lift more, you put extra strain on your muscles that you otherwise wouldn't of had, thus forcing your muscles to adapt and get larger/stonger after creatine isn't in your system.
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:51 AM   #9
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:21 AM   #10
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How often do take a cycle of Havoc? Is it just a one time thing, or do you take another cycle after you're finished with your Reversitol?
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:25 AM   #11
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How often do take a cycle of Havoc? Is it just a one time thing, or do you take another cycle after you're finished with your Reversitol?
Rule of thumb is time off should be time on + PCT. So I would take 2-3 months off before running another hormonal altering product.
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:34 AM   #12
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Good stuff you can buy for $40 a bottle @ "The nutrition Company" I used it and saw amazing results. Just came off a cycle of 30 days. It is as close to trenblone as you can get ...just make sure you buy a bottle of reversitol at the same time and start taking it a couple of days before your cycle ends
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:53 AM   #13
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V-Tren or T-bomb

Good stuff you can buy for $40 a bottle @ "The nutrition Company" I used it and saw amazing results. Just came off a cycle of 30 days. It is as close to trenblone as you can get ...just make sure you buy a bottle of reversitol at the same time and start taking it a couple of days before your cycle ends
V-Tren? Who makes that?

T-Bomb is a Natty Test Booster, not a steroid.
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:57 AM   #14
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V-Tren? Who makes that?

T-Bomb is a Natty Test Booster, not a steroid.
Max Muscle has their own blend, I took a cycle of that and bought abottle from TNC but I can't remember the manufacturers name "castle" something IIRC
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Old 04-20-2009, 12:05 PM   #15
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