Chiefs Top 10: Regrettable NFL Offseason Decisions - Page 3

Pneuma · 08-26-2009, 02:11 PM

No.1 - Kansas City Chiefs trade for Matt Cassel

A silent alarm should have sounded for the Chiefs when the New England Patriots sold off “franchise” Matt Cassel for such a cheap price. Getting good value from Bill Belichick is like getting a good deal from a greasy used-car salesman: you’re lucky if you get what you pay for.

Cassel looked shiny and nice while he was on Belichick’s lot, but so have many players. Belichick makes his squad into overachievers and then sells high, only to see his parts fail elsewhere. See: Deion Branch, David Givens and Ty Law.

The Chiefs also signed Cassel to the richest contract in franchise history before he even played a snap, which may have been premature. A simple six-month test drive wouldn’t have hurt.

He has ”bust” written all over him and his early struggles in training camp are just the early evidence that the Chiefs got a lemon.

http://www.askmen.com/top_10/sports/...decisions.html

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While I don't agree with the long term signing, I don't think it deserves #1.

TFG · 08-26-2009, 02:25 PM

Is it just me or are the coaches and FO people from the Pats just so unbelievably arrogant that they simply believe that, whatever is on the roster, a 3-4 and a new QB are the solution? I mean, what on Earth would convince anyone that the Chiefs needed to go 3-4? A: Patriotic arrogance. Same in Denver too. Anyone and everyone ever to stand within a few feet of Bill Belichick is just an unreal genius who knows that the way to success in the NFL is to switch to a 3-4 regardless of what talent is on the roster and then give up anything and everything for a USC backup QB, including that no-good Jay Cutler.

My Chief offseason:

FIX THE OL = 1) Eugene Monroe ... and undrafteds Darryl Harris and Edwin Williams, and likely Jamon Meredith with that Round 5er. Yeah, hindsight is... OK, I would have Drafted all of those higher... and kept the 4-3, kept Jason Babin who was showing something, and grabbed Ron Brace in Round 2 to pair with Dorsey and STOP THE RUN...

The Pioli strategy has to be questioned. The OL was the overwhelming #1 need, and what... Colin Brown in Round 5, Goff as a UFA??? Man, that just doesn't exactly impress me at all. I'd call that the #1 goof or "regrettable decision" this offseason, with Cassel a Chief behind the goof of the attempt to make Cassel the Bronco...

Mecca · 08-26-2009, 02:27 PM

Well...all of the NE assistants have failed and failed miserably except for Thomas Dmitrof down in Atlanta but he actually drafted a QB with his first pick.

They're also still in a 4-3.

**CosmicPal** · 08-26-2009, 02:27 PM

Had this been a Carl trade, I would've agreed.

However, I have faith that Pioli knows what he's doing here, since, after all, he was working with the Pats last season and should know.

KCrockaholic · 08-26-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And many of them were Larry Brown Super Bowl XXX-esque.

He had clearly lost a step or four at that point.

True, but that still doesnt help this guys point. Hes trying to name off players who had bad careers after the Pats. Law had 10 picks. I dont care if it was Larry Brown esque, 10 turnovers is 10 turnovers. After that season he came to KC so we could help run his career to the ground. Deion Branch hasnt been as bad as he makes it out to be also. Branch is old, and a servicable 3rd option on most teams.

Huffman83 · 08-26-2009, 02:28 PM

When you look at the list...you're basically seeing every transaction that was made in the off season that was actually "news."

While I worry that Cassel is Scott Mitchell V2.0. I see the guy is talented and has a good agent because there's no way he's worth that much money YET! (bring KC to the AFC championship game 3 years in a row minimum...then he's worth it.) But consider someone a bust after the fact but not before the season even starts

Hammock Parties · 08-26-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TFG

FIX THE OL = 1) Eugene Monroe ...

Mecca · 08-26-2009, 02:29 PM

His plan may suck but he has a point about the unbridled arrogance of the NE assistants.

**The Franchise** · 08-26-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I'm stealing that......

**Gonzo** · 08-26-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-26-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

True, but that still doesnt help this guys point. Hes trying to name off players who had bad careers after the Pats. Law had 10 picks. I dont care if it was Larry Brown esque, 10 turnovers is 10 turnovers. After that season he came to KC so we could help run his career to the ground. Deion Branch hasnt been as bad as he makes it out to be also. Branch is old, and a servicable 3rd option on most teams.

If you've paid any attention to the Patriots Way, his point is extremely valid, though you'll continue to disagree.

The Pats are IMO the best in the league at getting the most out of players, and then getting rid of them the year before their skills rapidly decline.

There's even a blurb in Patriot Reign where they talk about how they "just know" when the right time is to cut guys loose.

In recent memory, Asante Samuel is the only guy they've cut loose that actually played at a similar level to his play in NE - but it's only been one year.

KCrockaholic · 08-26-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

If you've paid any attention to the Patriots Way, his point is extremely valid, though you'll continue to disagree.

The Pats are IMO the best in the league at getting the most out of players, and then getting rid of them the year before their skills rapidly decline.

There's even a blurb in Patriot Reign where they talk about how they "just know" when the right time is to cut guys loose.

In recent memory, Asante Samuel is the only guy they've cut loose that actually played at a similar level to his play in NE - but it's only been one year.

I totally agree with this, but I dont see how this makes Ty Laws 2005 season a so called "fail"??

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-26-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

I totally agree with this, but I dont see how this makes Ty Laws 2005 season a so called "fail"??

Seeing as how the writer calls Law's CAREER AFTER New England a "fail", I'm not sure where you get the idea that 2005 makes up for the rest of it.

Overall, Law was well past his prime after NE, and showed it.

They got rid of him at the perfect time.

Dante84 · 08-26-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding

Has anyone already decided to nickname the Chiefs OL "The Moat"????

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthrea...=212237&page=2

Just Passin' By · 08-26-2009, 02:44 PM

Terrible article, to put it kindly. Probably the #1 regrettable decision that the author's made in weeks was to post that horseshit with his name on it.

Hammock Parties · 08-26-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Terrible article, to put it kindly. Probably the #1 regrettable decision that the author's made in weeks was to post that horseshit with his name on it.

It's from Ask****ingMen.com

What do you expect?

There are more insightful things written on this very forum.

08-26-2009, 02:11 PM
Pneuma Titles Suck Join Date: Aug 2006 Casino cash: $9788321	Top 10: Regrettable NFL Offseason Decisions No.1 - Kansas City Chiefs trade for Matt Cassel A silent alarm should have sounded for the Chiefs when the New England Patriots sold off “franchise” Matt Cassel for such a cheap price. Getting good value from Bill Belichick is like getting a good deal from a greasy used-car salesman: you’re lucky if you get what you pay for. Cassel looked shiny and nice while he was on Belichick’s lot, but so have many players. Belichick makes his squad into overachievers and then sells high, only to see his parts fail elsewhere. See: Deion Branch, David Givens and Ty Law. The Chiefs also signed Cassel to the richest contract in franchise history before he even played a snap, which may have been premature. A simple six-month test drive wouldn’t have hurt. He has ”bust” written all over him and his early struggles in training camp are just the early evidence that the Chiefs got a lemon. http://www.askmen.com/top_10/sports/...decisions.html ___________________ While I don't agree with the long term signing, I don't think it deserves #1.
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08-26-2009, 02:25 PM	#31
TFG Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	Is it just me or are the coaches and FO people from the Pats just so unbelievably arrogant that they simply believe that, whatever is on the roster, a 3-4 and a new QB are the solution? I mean, what on Earth would convince anyone that the Chiefs needed to go 3-4? A: Patriotic arrogance. Same in Denver too. Anyone and everyone ever to stand within a few feet of Bill Belichick is just an unreal genius who knows that the way to success in the NFL is to switch to a 3-4 regardless of what talent is on the roster and then give up anything and everything for a USC backup QB, including that no-good Jay Cutler. My Chief offseason: FIX THE OL = 1) Eugene Monroe ... and undrafteds Darryl Harris and Edwin Williams, and likely Jamon Meredith with that Round 5er. Yeah, hindsight is... OK, I would have Drafted all of those higher... and kept the 4-3, kept Jason Babin who was showing something, and grabbed Ron Brace in Round 2 to pair with Dorsey and STOP THE RUN... The Pioli strategy has to be questioned. The OL was the overwhelming #1 need, and what... Colin Brown in Round 5, Goff as a UFA??? Man, that just doesn't exactly impress me at all. I'd call that the #1 goof or "regrettable decision" this offseason, with Cassel a Chief behind the goof of the attempt to make Cassel the Bronco...
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08-26-2009, 02:27 PM	#32
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-712950	Well...all of the NE assistants have failed and failed miserably except for Thomas Dmitrof down in Atlanta but he actually drafted a QB with his first pick. They're also still in a 4-3.
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08-26-2009, 02:27 PM	#33
CosmicPal Learn it. Know it. Live it. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Casino cash: $10004900	Had this been a Carl trade, I would've agreed. However, I have faith that Pioli knows what he's doing here, since, after all, he was working with the Pats last season and should know. __________________ - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - Four blessings upon my fellow planeteers: Older whiskey, younger women, faster horses, and more money.
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08-26-2009, 02:28 PM	#35
Huffman83 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $10008077	When you look at the list...you're basically seeing every transaction that was made in the off season that was actually "news." While I worry that Cassel is Scott Mitchell V2.0. I see the guy is talented and has a good agent because there's no way he's worth that much money YET! (bring KC to the AFC championship game 3 years in a row minimum...then he's worth it.) But consider someone a bust after the fact but not before the season even starts
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08-26-2009, 02:29 PM	#37
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-712950	His plan may suck but he has a point about the unbridled arrogance of the NE assistants.
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08-26-2009, 02:44 PM	#44
Just Passin' By In Search of a Life Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $5450524	Terrible article, to put it kindly. Probably the #1 regrettable decision that the author's made in weeks was to post that horseshit with his name on it.
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